Refereeing (1 Viewer)

pusbccfc · Feb 8, 2022

Every week I think it can't get worse and somehow it does. The lack of consistency from Villa fan Marriner was Sunday league.

Booking Sheaf for jumping over a tough tackle but letting Madine throw the ball away for time wasting at the end.

Just one yellow for Blackpool.

Three minutes added on at the end as well. How do you get to that conclusion?

I could go on. Since that Godden penalty we haven't really had anything.

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 · Feb 8, 2022

Ref Doesn’t make a difference when we can’t take our chances every week

SeaSeeEffCee · Feb 8, 2022

Seriously doubt him being a Villa fan played a part, that rivalry is very one-sided.

It was more that he’s arrogant and refereed the game like it was beneath him. Barely left the centre circle all game, it was like he couldn’t be arsed to be there.

Cov kid 55 · Feb 8, 2022

Mariner acted as if he had no interest in the game, strolled about, thought he was too good for a Championship game. He was poor.

pusbccfc · Feb 8, 2022

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Seriously doubt him being a Villa fan played a part, that rivalry is very one-sided.

It was more that he’s arrogant and refereed the game like it was beneath him. Barely left the centre circle all game, it was like he couldn’t be arsed to be there.

It was a tongue in cheek comment about Villa.

steve101 · Feb 8, 2022

Dreadfully inconsistent. Gyokeres was having his shirt pulled numerous times. Booking Sheaf was a joke. How did Rose get away without a yellow when he blatantly pulled down someone breaking away? That was the only decision that went in our favour. Hamer thought he would try the same moments after and got booked!

pusbccfc · Feb 8, 2022

steve101 said:
Dreadfully inconsistent. Gyokeres was having his shirt pulled numerous times. Booking Sheaf was a joke. How did Rose get away without a yellow when he blatantly pulled down someone breaking away? That was the only decision that went in our favour. Hamer thought he would try the same moments after and got booked!

I love Gyökeres' honestly, but he's got to make more of the shirt pulling every week. Possibly go down once in a while.

skybluepm2 · Feb 8, 2022

Let’s not forget that waste of space linesman. He may as well not been there. Abysmal.

I get home every week and wonder if I’m perhaps looking at things too objectively, through sky blue tinted glasses but I don’t think I am. How do they keep getting away with it?

Frostie · Feb 8, 2022

pusbccfc said:
I love Gyökeres' honestly, but he's got to make more of the shirt pulling every week. Possibly go down once in a while.

I know O'Hare is officially the most fouled player in the league but I bet Gyökeres wouldn't be far behind if he actually got the decisions he deserves.

Brighton Sky Blue · Feb 8, 2022

pusbccfc said:
Every week I think it can't get worse and somehow it does. The lack of consistency from Villa fan Marriner was Sunday league.

Booking Sheaf for jumping over a tough tackle but letting Madine throw the ball away for time wasting at the end.

Just one yellow for Blackpool.

Three minutes added on at the end as well. How do you get to that conclusion?

I could go on. Since that Godden penalty we haven't really had anything.

The ref against Birmingham sending their man off was a rare good spot

SeaSeeEffCee · Feb 8, 2022

pusbccfc said:
It was a tongue in cheek comment about Villa.

Fair enough, seen a lot on Twitter talking about it very seriously!

coop · Feb 9, 2022

The officials were awful and are generally shit the linesman on the East stand was absolutely shocking the ball went out at least 2 foot and he waved play on. Mariner look at him after and he indicated the whole ball never went out. Ridiculous that's only one of many terrible decisions. No penalty from the handball then gives a free kick for exactly the same thing in the middle of the pitch.

slowpoke · Feb 9, 2022

Neil Warnock was on Talksport recently ripping the poor quality of referees now in the premier didn’t catch it all but I think he mentioned Mariner as being useless. Needs a Warnock type we know he loves refs but the poor standards especially in the EFL need highlighting. It sometimes to me borderlines cheating.,

zuni · Feb 9, 2022

Looked like a stonewall penalty from where I sat but could be wrong also confused on why the foul on wag just outside the box wasn't carded...ref was shocking again

Esoterica · Feb 9, 2022

Frostie said:
I know O'Hare is officially the most fouled player in the league but I bet Gyökeres wouldn't be far behind if he actually got the decisions he deserves.

I feel he goes down too easily at other times which might count against him when they're genuine.

Terry Gibson's perm · Feb 9, 2022

Esoterica said:
I feel he goes down too easily at other times which might count against him when they're genuine.

Nearly all players go down easily, Bowler spent more time falling over and lying down than doing anything else. The ref was poor not every challenge is a foul or a dive but that’s how they seem to ref now.

covboy1987 · Feb 9, 2022

pusbccfc said:
Every week I think it can't get worse and somehow it does. The lack of consistency from Villa fan Marriner was Sunday league.

Booking Sheaf for jumping over a tough tackle but letting Madine throw the ball away for time wasting at the end.

Just one yellow for Blackpool.

Three minutes added on at the end as well. How do you get to that conclusion?

I could go on. Since that Godden penalty we haven't really had anything.

Andre Marriner told he's not fit to referee after "guessing" in Tottenham vs Chelsea
Andre Marriner took charge of Tottenham's Carabao Cup semi-final second leg against Chelsea and was bailed out by VAR on three occasions after a series of wrong decisions- Former top referee Keith Hackett claims Marriner is not quick enough to keep up with the pace of Premier League stars.

Think the above explains everything we need to know about this referee - last night he couldn’t keep up with the play and guessed decisions from afar, many of which he got wrong

Macca · Feb 9, 2022

I mean it’s a great diversion from some uncomfortable truths

SBbucks · Feb 9, 2022

I don’t generally criticise referees as it is a difficult enough job, but Mariner was shocking. His indecision and lack of clear signals made the players unsure what they were dealing with. At least 3 times in attacking situations City players didn’t know whether he was playing advantage or not, leading to stop/start confusion and lack of confidence that he was in control. The yellow on Hyam when he was slightly late (and the ball was clearly running out of play, so didn’t really impede the player) and the lack of yellow for the cynical foul on Waghorn on the edge of the box highlighted his inconsistency. His general demeanour and lack of game management indicated he couldn’t be arsed to be refereeing a lowly championship game between two mid table sides.
If that’s premier league standard refereeing then they are welcome to it.

SBAndy · Feb 9, 2022

His friends call him Dre. That’s enough for me.

Grendel · Feb 9, 2022

I don’t normally berate refs I think most on here talk nonsense about them but he was one of the worst

that said the assistants were pointless they offered zero assistance at all

Mcbean · Feb 9, 2022

Very poor performance from a high ranking referee - was probably miffed that he had been assigned it and not the Fulham game

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Feb 9, 2022

Grendel said:
I don’t normally berate refs I think most on here talk nonsense about them but he was one of the worst

that said the assistants were pointless they offered zero assistance at all

Yeah, every week it's 'the worst referee of the season' when the first decision that someone 100 yards away doesn't agree with. Major culture issue around football and refereeing at the moment. Referees aren't perfect, some make incorrect decisions, some make a 50/50 call the 'other' way. As someone above mentions, it's much easier to moan about how bad the referees are, that make very little impact on the end result, than face some of the actual realities as to why we aren't performing at certain levels.

The media are largely to blame. A TV game will have a 15 minute halftime segment dedicated to slowing down an incident and watching it 15 times in a marginal call, when they could actually analyse the game plan of either side or review some of the tactical analysis. Instead, it forces everyone on to the referee and has created a culture that they should be slaughtered for marginal calls.

Warwickhunt · Feb 9, 2022

My concern is that of late, is that Referees seem very quick to book our midfield! in the last 3/4 games or so. It feels like they are somehow trying to influence the outcome of games. Maybe I am being a bit cynical but since the Godden episode we have had an awful lot of bookings for what I consider very innocuous incidents that on TV the Refs are playing on with.
Nuff said though! Just fed up with other managers saying we are the best side they played in the Championship. Its about time we stuffed some teams and then listen to their manager as he packs his bags

SAJ · Feb 9, 2022

pusbccfc said:
I love Gyökeres' honestly, but he's got to make more of the shirt pulling every week. Possibly go down once in a while.

That’s half of Gyoketes troubles he does go down too easily for the wrong things then because of that he doesn’t get the fouls when he really is fouled.

NortonSkyBlue · Feb 9, 2022

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Yeah, every week it's 'the worst referee of the season' when the first decision that someone 100 yards away doesn't agree with. Major culture issue around football and refereeing at the moment. Referees aren't perfect, some make incorrect decisions, some make a 50/50 call the 'other' way. As someone above mentions, it's much easier to moan about how bad the referees are, that make very little impact on the end result, than face some of the actual realities as to why we aren't performing at certain levels.

The media are largely to blame. A TV game will have a 15 minute halftime segment dedicated to slowing down an incident and watching it 15 times in a marginal call, when they could actually analyse the game plan of either side or review some of the tactical analysis. Instead, it forces everyone on to the referee and has created a culture that they should be slaughtered for marginal calls.

I tend to agree with most of your comments however I must say it is difficult to be objective when decisions are inconsistent.

pusbccfc · Feb 9, 2022

Warwickhunt said:
My concern is that of late, is that Referees seem very quick to book our midfield! in the last 3/4 games or so. It feels like they are somehow trying to influence the outcome of games. Maybe I am being a bit cynical but since the Godden episode we have had an awful lot of bookings for what I consider very innocuous incidents that on TV the Refs are playing on with.
Nuff said though! Just fed up with other managers saying we are the best side they played in the Championship. Its about time we stuffed some teams and then listen to their manager as he packs his bags

Referee's are booking Hamer based on his reputation at times for tackles others don't.

pusbccfc · Feb 9, 2022

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Yeah, every week it's 'the worst referee of the season' when the first decision that someone 100 yards away doesn't agree with. Major culture issue around football and refereeing at the moment. Referees aren't perfect, some make incorrect decisions, some make a 50/50 call the 'other' way. As someone above mentions, it's much easier to moan about how bad the referees are, that make very little impact on the end result, than face some of the actual realities as to why we aren't performing at certain levels.

The media are largely to blame. A TV game will have a 15 minute halftime segment dedicated to slowing down an incident and watching it 15 times in a marginal call, when they could actually analyse the game plan of either side or review some of the tactical analysis. Instead, it forces everyone on to the referee and has created a culture that they should be slaughtered for marginal calls.

It's the consistency that's the issue.

It's fine making mistakes but booking Sheaf that early isn't a mistake, that's a decision he's made because he thinks it was a dive. That should have set a precedent that should have meant a card for Madine throwing the ball away.

Happy_Martian · Feb 9, 2022

Marriner probably got dropped from the Prem list as a disciplinary penalty for his poor performances in that league. So we have to take the crap that he dishes out until he gets back into their good books.

I wonder if having VAR has made Prem refs less concerned about getting decisions right first time as they have the knowledge and backup of a 5th official who can bail them out on FUBAR decisions ?

pusbccfc · Feb 9, 2022

Happy_Martian said:
Marriner probably got dropped from the Prem list as a disciplinary penalty for his poor performances in that league. So we have to take the crap that he dishes out until he gets back into their good books.

I wonder if having VAR has made Prem refs less concerned about getting decisions right first time as they have the knowledge and backup of a 5th official who can bail them out on FUBAR decisions ?

Not necessarily. The decisions he got wrong tonight wouldn't have been checked for VAR, besides the handball shout.

It's all the little, inconsistent things that are the issue.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Feb 9, 2022

Grendel said:
I don’t normally berate refs I think most on here talk nonsense about them but he was one of the worst

that said the assistants were pointless they offered zero assistance at all

Probably because that arrogant bastard Marriner said he will make the decisions.

CDK · Feb 10, 2022

Most games the refs are shit and just accept it now myself.

Brighton Sky Blue · Feb 10, 2022

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Probably because that arrogant bastard Marriner said he will make the decisions.

Well there was a moment where from point blank the lineo smugly called no foul on Waghorn being brought down then flagged him for handball.

Sky Blue Harry H · Feb 10, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The ref against Birmingham sending their man off was a rare good spot

Agree - Lenihan (Blackburn) got a yellow for bringing down Keinan Davis (Forest) last night, for a very similar challenge (then sent off for a second yellow). I think a blatant scything down of a player (where there is no attempt to play the ball) should be a red (only a yellow if attempting to get the ball, and not dangerous) O'Hare got taken out twice in earlier home games by cynical tackles deserving of a red.

JAM See · Feb 10, 2022

We aren't where we are in the league because of referees.

We aren't where we are in the league because of shithousery by the opposition.

We are where we are in the league because we don't score enough goals.

Simples.

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