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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #211
mark82 said:
How the ref doesn't even give a free kick for that is beyond me.
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Absolutely the worst decision of the game. The only thing I can think is he was playing advantage to see if we could get a goal with the keeper out?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #212
skyblu3sk said:
Their player runs straight Thomas makes the lunge.
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Yes, he kicks the ball and their player runs into him.

No idea what you expect Thomas to do. He wins the ball and their player goes into him.

Their other players didn't even appeal
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #213
David O'Day said:
he's allowed to play the ball and doesn't have to move once done

by your logic any tackle where there is contact after is a foul
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Any tackle where the player catches the other player on the thigh yes probably will be given.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #214
Nick said:
Yet Thomas went for the ball and actually kicked it before their player actually got there.
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Exactly. If I jump to head it away, do, and then someone steams into me that’s not a foul surely?
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #215
Nick said:
Yes, he kicks the ball and their player runs into him.

No idea what you expect Thomas to do. He wins the ball and their player goes into him.
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What do you expect their player to do when he has been lunged towards and has to react in less than a second?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #216
skyblu3sk said:
Any tackle where the player catches the other player on the thigh yes probably will be given.
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no, no it wont if the other player is the one that creates the contact
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #217
skyblu3sk said:
What do you expect their player to do when he has been lunged towards and has to react in less than a second?
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no one said he could do anything else, just that it is not a pen
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #218
similar thing just happened in the Everton game, player wins ball then goes in to attacker. All agree no pen
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #219
skyblu3sk said:
What do you expect their player to do when he has been lunged towards and has to react in less than a second?
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No, he wasn't lunged towards. Thomas kicked the ball.

Wasn't he expecting the cheek of the defender to kick the ball?
 

Nick

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #220
shmmeee said:
Exactly. If I jump to head it away, do, and then someone steams into me that’s not a foul surely?
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If anything is a foul on you
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #221
David O'Day said:
no, no it wont if the other player is the one that creates the contact
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He didn't create the contact!!!!! I'm going to give up responding soon but their player was going forward Thomas goes from right to left. He doesn't have much time to run forward before Thomas makes contact with his leg in fact he actually stutters his run aiming to avoid contact in the split second he has. I'm right on this one, Robins says it, the ref says it and the majority of pundits. Just cause you don't like it doesn't make your opinion true. We don't live in the old world of any tackle being ok as long as you get the ball first.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #222
The amount of different opinions on here all after watching the incident from every angle a dozen or so times shows what a tough decision it was in a couple of seconds.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #223
Nick said:
No, he wasn't lunged towards. Thomas kicked the ball.

Wasn't he expecting the cheek of the defender to kick the ball?
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Ok yeah Thomas didn't lunge in to get the ball at all good one.
 

Robinshio

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #224
The clear thing is their keeper challenge was far more dangerous reckless and likely to cause serious injury than the penalty
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #225
slowpoke said:
The amount of different opinions on here all after watching the incident from every angle a dozen or so times shows what a tough decision it was in a couple of seconds.
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Agreed, I said during the game I thought it was a terrible decision. The more I saw of it and the angles the players were running at the more I realised I was wrong. I also think the fact Thomas doesn't go nuts at the ref or the other players tells you what you need to know.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #226
Robinshio said:
The clear thing is their keeper challenge was far more dangerous reckless and likely to cause serious injury than the penalty
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I'd agree with this. As I said above wondering if the ref played on to see if we could take advantage but then he gave a foul for the 2nd offense so you'd assume not!
 

Nick

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #227
skyblu3sk said:
Ok yeah Thomas didn't lunge in to get the ball at all good one.
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You are making out he lunges in on the player.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #228
Nick said:
You are making out he lunges in on the player.
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Well he does as he makes contact with the player after the ball it's the definition of a lunge!

lunge
noun
noun: lunge; plural noun: lunges
a sudden forward thrust of the body, typically with an arm outstretched to attack someone or seize something.
 

Brylowes

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #229
Skyblue Bangkok said:
I saw the pic of that challenge but none of the highlights I saw, showed that particular challenge .
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Me either, it was unbelievably reckless and the ref was about 5 yards away looking right at it, no real contact & there for no injury (probably swayed his decision) but the intent was obvious and could easily have resulted in a serious injury.
Should have been sent off without a second thought imho.
 

Nick

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #230
skyblu3sk said:
Well he does as he makes contact with the player after the ball it's the definition of a lunge!

lunge
noun
noun: lunge; plural noun: lunges
a sudden forward thrust of the body, typically with an arm outstretched to attack someone or seize something.
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The player makes contact with him.

He stretched to kick the ball, which he has every right to.

If their player beat him to the ball and the same happened. It's a different story.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #231
Esoterica said:
So what stops any player deliberately running into a defender forcefully clearing the ball and claiming a penalty then?

If D-H gets there first, pings it into the top corner and catches Thomas on his shot follow through, there is absolutely no way the goal gets overturned and D-H booked. It's a defender who just wasn't close enough to his man to stop the shot.

For me Dewsbury-Hall causes that whole situation himself by (late) challenging for a ball that has already gone.
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OK, so flip it round. The logic of what you are saying is that you can do anything in the tackle as long as you’ve touched the ball first. You can’t. 20 years ago - yes. Now - no. The players know that.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #232
skyblu3sk said:
He didn't create the contact!!!!! I'm going to give up responding soon but their player was going forward Thomas goes from right to left. He doesn't have much time to run forward before Thomas makes contact with his leg in fact he actually stutters his run aiming to avoid contact in the split second he has. I'm right on this one, Robins says it, the ref says it and the majority of pundits. Just cause you don't like it doesn't make your opinion true. We don't live in the old world of any tackle being ok as long as you get the ball first.
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he did, he went into thomas

Thomas is allowed to occupy space and doesn't have to move

Robins, doesn't think it. i can tell you that for a fact and the pundits in the papers say it was not a pen

just because you are too proud to admit youare wrong doesn't make it true
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #233
skyblu3sk said:
Well he does as he makes contact with the player after the ball it's the definition of a lunge!

lunge
noun
noun: lunge; plural noun: lunges
a sudden forward thrust of the body, typically with an arm outstretched to attack someone or seize something.
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you are just windmilling now as you are being proved to be talking whiff
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #234
David O'Day said:
he did, he went into thomas

Thomas is allowed to occupy space and doesn't have to move

Robins, doesn't think it. i can tell you that for a fact and the pundits in the papers say it was not a pen

just because you are too proud to admit youare wrong doesn't make it true
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That is absolute rubbish Thomas isn't occupying a space he is moving towards his leg and continues after he strikes the ball. You are wrong and frankly clueless. Also how can you speak for Robins he said straight away it was no ummm or ahhh or I haven't seen it back.He specifically said yes it's a penalty. Don't make stuff up just to try and bolster your daft argument.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #235
skyblu3sk said:
That is absolute rubbish Thomas isn't occupying a space he is moving towards his leg and continues after he strikes the ball. You are wrong and frankly clueless.
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he's occupying the space were the ball was, ffs mate stop windmilling and posting poo likes as that's teh sure fire sign of a winner argument

even the fucking the leicester radio people were saying it's not a pen

keep windmilling mate
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #236
Well we know the standard of Refereeing has been a concern especially in the Uk for a few years. But the good news is is that is no longer the case-we have a long list of FIFA officials ready to go on this thread who all know the Laws of the Game (but struggle to understand what is a careless/reckless/excessive challenge and what sanctions to award on each of them occasions).
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #237
Adge said:
Well we know the standard of Refereeing has been a concern especially in the Uk for a few years. But the good news is is that is no longer the case-we have a long list of FIFA officials ready to go on this thread who all know the Laws of the Game (but struggle to understand what is a careless/reckless/excessive challenge and what sanctions to award on each of them occasions).
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here's the man who has never seen a ref decision he couldn't defend

good level
 
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SBbucks

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #238
David O'Day said:
Robins, doesn't think it's pen

I can tell you that for a fact, it's just he decided he didn't want to risk it and slag off a ref after winning a game

Oh, sky sports pundits! wow all the reports seem to say it was at best very soft
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It was very telling that the immediate reaction of the sky commentator was shock that a penalty had been given, he clearly wasn’t expecting it (the same as most of us who saw it live, great view from block 16)
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #239
Adge said:
Well we know the standard of Refereeing has been a concern especially in the Uk for a few years. But the good news is is that is no longer the case-we have a long list of FIFA officials ready to go on this thread who all know the Laws of the Game (but struggle to understand what is a careless/reckless/excessive challenge and what sanctions to award on each of them occasions).
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Yeah their goalie was reckless and it wasn't even a foul.

Yesterday Harry winks was the ref for a part of the game.
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #240
David O'Day said:
here's the man who has never seen a ref decision he couldn't defend

good level
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And the man who never takes his Sky Blue glasses off and the worst of them all is……….
 
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skyblu3sk

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #241
David O'Day said:
he's occupying the space were the ball was, ffs mate stop windmilling and posting poo likes as that's teh sure fire sign of a winner argument

even the fucking the leicester radio people were saying it's not a pen

keep windmilling mate
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Windmilling let me post the below from Robins. I'm talking fact you are talking shite.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #242
Adge said:
And the man who never takes his Sky Blue glasses off and the worst of them all is……….
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The guy is a fucking moron, no idea why I have bothered. I need to draw him a picture with some crayons to explain the direction of travel and the fact Thomas isn't static
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #243
Adge said:
And the man who never takes his Sky Blue glasses off and the worst of them all is……….
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You are really an awful person and you wonder why people have a pop at you

There's a lesson for you to learn
 
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long way home

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #244
Refs are obviously not working under the same sets of rules or have different views of the interpretation of laws. Everton game today exactly same incident different outcome. At some point this needs to change .
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2024
  • #245
skyblu3sk said:
The guy is a fucking moron, no idea why I have bothered. I need to draw him a picture with some crayons to explain the direction of travel and the fact Thomas isn't static
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Getting personal because you are wrong?

You are a brain dead idiot who can't even fucking read. I have explained to you that robins in his post match comments was being diplomatic and it private he told Thomas it was a bad decision. I heard that directly from a player but i guess you know better.

Specsavers mate, i can book you an appointment
 
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