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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Got the pen and red spot on
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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I really don’t think he did. The red I reckon was probably right but never a pen for me. Despite what all those pundits, including Robins say. I suspect Robins can afford to be magnanimous about it but had we lost he’d be livid.
Their player did not have the ball. It was a clearance by Thomas and not a slide tackle/challenge.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Terry_dactyl said:
I really don’t think he did. The red I reckon was probably right but never a pen for me. Despite what all those pundits, including Robins say. I suspect Robins can afford to be magnanimous about it but and had we lost he’d be livid.
Their player did not have the ball. It was clearance by Thomas and not a slide tackle/challenge.
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Fair
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Both decisions are 50/50 and can understand both sides of the coin

For me though, not a pen and not a red but completely get why the ref and others think the opposite

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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Got the pen and red spot on
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Both wrong for me.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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skyblue1991 said:
Both decisions are 50/50 and can understand both sides of the coin

For me though, not a pen and not a red but completely get why the ref and others think the opposite

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Agree with this. I reckon he knew the pen was iffy too which may have influenced his decision form the red.

I've no idea what Tatsu's yellow was for though.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Manchester_sky_blue said:
Agree with this. I reckon he knew the pen was iffy too which may have influenced his decision form the red.

I've no idea what Tatsu's yellow was for though.
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It was after the pen so I assume descent but that's odd given the language barrier.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Nuskyblue said:
Both wrong for me.
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Watch them again
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Got the pen and red spot on
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Disagree on both. Not a pen, not a red.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Got the pen and red spot on
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Definite pen, had that been in the Premiership var would have said red card
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #11
I keep going back and forwards on the pen, can't make my mind up on it.

Definite red though.

Their keeper should have been minimum booked and possibly sent off for his flying karate kick though.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Most of the game I was bemused to be fair.

Having that said, I saw a replay of their pen and I somehow thought it wasn't a foul and a red car for Thomas
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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pusbccfc said:
Disagree on both. Not a pen, not a red.
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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hill83 said:
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The Leicester player handled it before Thomas made contact!
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #15
MR says definite penalty. Red aswell
 

hill83

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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pusbccfc said:
The Leicester player handled it before Thomas made contact!
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Fair enough didn’t know that ha ha
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Their pen was an odd one given he got the ball cleanly then they clashed I thought it shouldn't have been given but I obviously don't know the laws of the game as much as MR who says it was. I did think it shouldn't have been a red though as he's clearly got the ball. Their red was borderline I did think it was reckless and no chance of getting the ball but no studs showing although he was off the ground. Two very difficult calls you probably could argue either way.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Watch them again
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I have.

Saw replays of both, their pen Thomas gets to first (but is hellish reckless). Their red card is a 50/50 as far as I can tell.

When I say replays these are something I saw on someone's phone in the row below so could well be wrong.
 
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Skyblue_LDN

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Think it was a harsh red, yellow would have been fine. Pen is a funny one, we would have been screaming for it even though he did get the ball, would be a foul anywhere else on the pitch I guess
 
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The watchmaker

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Both wrong for me. Thomas has cleared it. The Leicester man is late and has taken his studs out after the ball has gone. Free kick Coventry. The red - it's again very late and it's not a clever challenge but he has kept it low and I'm not sure anyone would have argued with a yellow. I don't think he sends him off if he hasn't given the pen.
 
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Robinshio

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Their keeper 100% red for king fu kick. Not even penalised
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Nuskyblue said:
Both wrong for me.
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I agree.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Robinshio said:
Their keeper 100% red for king fu kick. Not even penalised
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Yea, that was bizarre
 
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skybluegod

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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I think by the laws of the game both are right, but it brings up the debate about the rules running the game again.

Thought the ref had a bad game in general though. Big decisions yes right by the book but he went against the laws when not giving out some early yellows to a couple of the Leicester lads, clearly trying to let the game flow but undermines him as well.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Never a pen, he’s clearly won the ball from DHall who isn’t in control at all. It’s a goal kick . The sending off was valid, he dived in and could have broke his leg the dirty bastard.
 
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The watchmaker

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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Nuskyblue said:
Most of the game I was bemused to be fair.

Having that said, I saw a replay of their pen and I somehow thought it wasn't a foul and a red car for Thomas
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If you are giving it as a foul it has to be a red so... either way the ref got it wrong.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #27
The watchmaker said:
If you are giving it as a foul it has to be a red so... either way the ref got it wrong.
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Fair point.
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #28
pusbccfc said:
The Leicester player handled it before Thomas made contact!
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You can't give a handball for that, it was whacked at him from about 2 foot away.

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slowpoke

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #29
hill83 said:
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Absolute definite red, hope you ain’t a referee.
 

Greggs

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #30
How can it be a pen if he got the ball first?
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #31
Greggs said:
How can it be a pen if he got the ball first?
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That's what I thought live, the replay tho, it looks as if Thomas is trying to snap the c**t in two (fair enough, Dewsbury-Hall is a rat).
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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slowpoke said:
Absolute definite red, hope you ain’t a referee.
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Come on pal. I’m saying it was a definite red keep up
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2024
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slowpoke said:
Absolute definite red, hope you ain’t a referee.
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I hope he is and he’s got little gifs on cards that he shows players.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #34
I think it was a pen personally and I think English football as a whole needs to get away from the idea that a challenge can't possibly be a foul if the defender wins the ball. There is nothing at all about winning the ball in the laws of the game. It was reckless from Thomas and he could have done Dewsbury-Hall some fairly serious damage. That being said, the referee still had an appallig game. His defintion of a yellow card varied massively throughout and, first half especially, he seemed to want to give every decision he could to Leicester. Red card was a correct decision, poor challenge.
 
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jordan210

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  • Jan 13, 2024
  • #35
Robinshio said:
Their keeper 100% red for king fu kick. Not even penalised
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Plus the foul on Sheaf to stop him shooting just after wasn't even a booking
 
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