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  • Start date Apr 9, 2025
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SBAndy

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  • Apr 19, 2025
  • #211
Frostie said:
I'd like to see the Simms one again, anyone got a clip? I was certain at the time it should have been a penalty. I don't see how grabbing around the neck is ever a justifiable challenge.

Wright was being held for sure but it's all about action & consequence - was that sufficient reason for him to go down? Not really, no. Not sure why people think Haji should have been booked though?
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Think the logic was “if you’ve given it against him for diving you need to book him”. It wasn’t a dive, I couldn’t really see but had assumed there was some other infringement so the handball on the floor makes sense.
 

Robinshio

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2025
  • #212
I think the issue is now the linesmen , they are certainly no longer assistant referees

2 things yesterday
1) The corner kick thing, the linesman could clearly see where the ball was in relation to the quadrant, but didnt tell the ref happened twice, the 1st one was ok, the 2nd the ref didnt go over, and was then outside
2) one of their players was given offside by the ref from 30 yards, when the linesman looking along the line didnt give it

its been the same for a long time now, they are generally very very poor
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #213
Robinshio said:
I think the issue is now the linesmen , they are certainly no longer assistant referees

2 things yesterday
1) The corner kick thing, the linesman could clearly see where the ball was in relation to the quadrant, but didnt tell the ref happened twice, the 1st one was ok, the 2nd the ref didnt go over, and was then outside
2) one of their players was given offside by the ref from 30 yards, when the linesman looking along the line didnt give it

its been the same for a long time now, they are generally very very poor
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A lot of misunderstanding around this. Since the introduction of headsets they are in constant communication with the referee. They don't immediately flag something as they speak to the referee first, much better that than one give one decision & one another - we've all seen how embarrassing that is.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #214
fatso said:
I definitely think refs need help with the big decisions, although I hate the long delays you get with VAR. But better a delay than a wrong decision I guess.
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I think and fear it's going to be the future,but worse than that,a fully operational automated algorithm or something like that.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #215
Nick said:
Madness how he's getting credit for giving styles a second yellow there won't be a more blatant yellow all season.
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There was no decision to make. Styles made it for him.

It was so blatant
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #216
Another dog shit ref this week. Lovely stuff.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #217
Nailed on red. Went in to hurt him.
 
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CovLis86

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #218
He's hardly got a thing wrong, compared to most weeks. We've been atrocious, thats all.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #219
CovLis86 said:
He's hardly got a thing wrong, compared to most weeks. We've been atrocious, thats all.
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you mean apart from the nailed on red?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #220
CovLis86 said:
He's hardly got a thing wrong, compared to most weeks. We've been atrocious, thats all.
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CovLis86

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #221
David O'Day said:
you mean apart from the nailed on red?
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It wasn't.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #222
CovLis86 said:
It wasn't.
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ok fella

 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #223
Fuming about the nailed on red completely changed the game allowing him to go in and score 2 setting up another. Absolute joke. Then goes on to foul Lats which at that point I thought next foul no matter how soft and he's gone but nope...
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #224
skyblu3sk said:
Fuming about the nailed on red completely changed the game allowing him to go in and score 2 setting up another. Absolute joke. Then goes on to foul Lats which at that point I thought next foul no matter how soft and he's gone but nope...
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He was never going to send him off. He could have done 10 more fouls and not been sent off.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #225
CovLis86 said:
It wasn't.
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You might want to look at it again. He was knee high with ball long gone. A red every day of the week.
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #226
Honestly, I don't know what to say anymore. I have absolutely no faith that anything will ever change.

The guy could have been sent off twice and had no complaints about it. But no. Stays on the pitch, turns the game completely in their favour.

Of course.

Not excusing the fact we were absolutely poor, mind you.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #227
We need to be streetwise. If that was Allen with the horror tackle there would be Argyle players, coaches, fans, dogs, uncles on the pitch and the player would have been rolling around for 10 minutes.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #228
pusbccfc said:
We need to be streetwise. If that was Allen with the horror tackle there would be Argyle players, coaches, fans, dogs, uncles on the pitch and the player would have been rolling around for 10 minutes.
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Lati did that and got a booking for saying their player should be off.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #229
Great to hear Lampard having a pop at the ref. Unacceptable that it's happening every week.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #230
pusbccfc said:
Great to hear Lampard having a pop at the ref. Unacceptable that it's happening every week.
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What did he say
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #231
Nick said:
Lati did that and got a booking for saying their player should be off.
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Mainly because it wasn't worth moaning about. The Allen one is horrid.
 
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pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #232
Nick said:
What did he say
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Basically that it's a clear red and it's another bad decision.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #233
CovLis86 said:
It wasn't.
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The ref’s decision was bad but he had one quick view of it. You’ve had time and still get it wrong. Explain why you think it was ok
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #234
pusbccfc said:
Basically that it's a clear red and it's another bad decision.
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3 previous games, clear penalties missed.
Clear red today.

It's ok though a ref gets applause because he sent styles off for the most obvious booking all year.
 
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Nuskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #235
Paul Anthony said:
Honestly, I don't know what to say anymore. I have absolutely no faith that anything will ever change.

The guy could have been sent off twice and had no complaints about it. But no. Stays on the pitch, turns the game completely in their favour.

Of course.

Not excusing the fact we were absolutely poor, mind you.
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The game turns on that decision, we couldn't contain them after he stays on.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #236
To be fair to the ref the tackle was so late he didn't actually see just how bad it was, if he can see how high the guy's foot was he would have had to have sent him off.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #237
Nuskyblue said:
To be fair to the ref the tackle was so late he didn't actually see just how bad it was, if he can see how high the guy's foot was he would have had to have sent him off.
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So he just guessed and gave him a yellow?
 
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Nuskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #238
Nick said:
So he just guessed and gave him a yellow?
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Probably.

He knows it's a foul I'm guessing but couldn't have seen the severity because it was so late.

That is the type of thing VAR was bought in for.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #239
Nuskyblue said:
Probably.

He knows it's a foul I'm guessing but couldn't have seen the severity because it was so late.

That is the type of thing VAR was bought in for.
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I went to watch a Thai 2 nd Division game in March,they have VAR in their 2 nd tier .
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #240
Nuskyblue said:
To be fair to the ref the tackle was so late he didn't actually see just how bad it was, if he can see how high the guy's foot was he would have had to have sent him off.
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Linesman was looking at it! No excuse for missing it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #241
Boro given two bullshit penalties in as many games. We struggle to get red cards even when the opposition commit GBH.

Hard not to think that Lampard calling out a shit ref to his face is biting us now.
 
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Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #242
Skyblue Bangkok said:
I went to watch a Thai 2 nd Division game in March,they have VAR in their 2 nd tier .
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No way. Not in the home of electronic technology
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #243
Warwickhunt said:
Linesman was looking at it! No excuse for missing it
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as if a lino is gonna make a decision, cowards the lot of them
 
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AngryAnt

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #244
Nuskyblue said:
Probably.

He knows it's a foul I'm guessing but couldn't have seen the severity because it was so late.

That is the type of thing VAR was bought in for.
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Part of me is starting to wonder if the refs are being so bad on purpose this season to ease into the idea of bringing VAR to the championship, claiming it will help them etc.
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #245
Allen should of made a bit more of it, running after their player, kinda made it look it wasn’t that bad,
 
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