Red and Black Scarves (1 Viewer)

theferret · Oct 17, 2016

Toying with the idea of getting hold of a load of red and black scarves (colours of Singers FC 1892-1898) to sell amongst city fans. This has been an effective and non-confrontational way of demonstrating opposition to club ownership at Man Utd and currently at Charlton - but in our case can be used as a token of dissatisfaction against all parties involved in putting the club in the current situation.

There would be total transparency, all receipts and invoices would be published and any profit would be donated to charity, or to a fund that supports to activities of CCFC fans - again with total transparency.

I know that in the scheme of things it won't make a whole lot of difference, but as a visible act of defiance it could be quite effective.

If people think it's a lame idea, I'm cool with that and please feel free to let me know. If people thing it has legs then I don't mind putting my hand in my pocket to get the ball rolling.

Deleted member 5849 · Oct 17, 2016

Well I thought it had legs when green and red was mooted. Can understand why Cov Utd adopting those colours makes them a bit more problematic (shame really, as more distinct!) so yeah, I think it's perfectly reasonable.

Pipehitterz · Oct 17, 2016

Deleted member 5849 said:
Well I thought it had legs when green and red was mooted. Can understand why Cov Utd adopting those colours makes them a bit more problematic (shame really, as more distinct!) so yeah, I think it's perfectly reasonable.

aye i first mentioned it, i wore red and green scarf for 2 seasons along with my mrs, and another guy that adopted it
i couldnt see how it didnt catch on, all i received was negativity towards it from fellow supporters
gave up in the end

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Oct 17, 2016

I like it. Put me down for one.

theferret · Oct 17, 2016

Pipehitterz said:
aye i first mentioned it, i wore red and green scarf for 2 seasons along with my mrs, and another guy that adopted it
i couldnt see how it didnt catch on, all i received was negativity towards it from fellow supporters
gave up in the end

That's a pity, perhaps they thought you were Leicester Tigers fans!

Could go for the pink and navy from 1889 - would stand out and wouldn't clash with the colours of other clubs.

christonabike · Oct 17, 2016

Black scarfs would be better so Nick and his cronies cant say why you arent blaming the council etc.
My old fella and me will be standing by Jimmys statue and will hope to bring a sign saying CCFC supporter 84 years old looking for new owners. Help needed.

Deleted member 5849 · Oct 17, 2016

theferret said:
Could go for the pink and navy

They can be for the women

Nick · Oct 17, 2016

I emailed a few places at the time of Sixfields.

There are a few options, there are places like China where they will be a lot cheaper and take longer to be delivered or you can get them in the UK.

For example in china:

https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...966019.html?spm=a2700.7906341.35.1.TSDkw2&s=p

$3.25 each maximum and they actually look quite good.

I think it is a good idea, you don't have to be standing up and shouting, you don't have to boycott but you can still just put a scarf on (and it keeps you warm).

theferret · Oct 17, 2016

Nick said:
I emailed a few places at the time of Sixfields.

There are a few options, there are places like China where they will be a lot cheaper and take longer to be delivered or you can get them in the UK.

For example in china:

https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...966019.html?spm=a2700.7906341.35.1.TSDkw2&s=p

$3.25 each maximum and they actually look quite good.

I think it is a good idea, you don't have to be standing up and shouting, you don't have to boycott but you can still just put a scarf on (and it keeps you warm).

I've emailed a couple of UK companies to get an idea, but they might turn out expensive. £3 quid is the target price, sell them for a fiver if possible. Will probably have to get them from China in the end. Cheers for the link.

Deleted member 5849 · Oct 17, 2016

theferret said:
I've emailed a couple of UK companies to get an idea, but they might turn out expensive. £3 quid is the target price, sell them for a fiver if possible. Will probably have to get them from China in the end. Cheers for the link.

Would say though that balance the delivery time with cost too. It's set to get colder soon, so now's the peak time to get people buying them Leave it too late and you might miss your moment so... keep that in mind with any order!

Nick · Oct 17, 2016

Deleted member 5849 said:
Would say though that balance the delivery time with cost too. It's set to get colder soon, so now's the peak time to get people buying them Leave it too late and you might miss your moment so... keep that in mind with any order!

That's the thing, probably looking at 2 months from china.

Another thing I tried was finding places like this on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNISEX-SM...191963&hash=item3acba2cf85:g:w9cAAOSw14xWK8z5

Then saying "What can you do for 400 of them". It turned out they were just buying them from china anyway so had to wait the same and put their markup on.

Nick · Oct 17, 2016

Another thing is maybe getting in touch with SBITC? They have been selling things like badges and wristbands, if you were to say it was strictly pro ccfc (rather than anti sisu, anti council) but is just a way to show they love CCFC and dont like any of the situation (as little politics as possible).

They might be able to source a Jimmy Hill Legacy Fund scarf (like with the badges) and then everybody can just buy from there?

Pipehitterz · Oct 17, 2016

Nick said:
That's the thing, probably looking at 2 months from china.

Another thing I tried was finding places like this on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNISEX-SM...191963&hash=item3acba2cf85:g:w9cAAOSw14xWK8z5

Then saying "What can you do for 400 of them". It turned out they were just buying them from china anyway so had to wait the same and put their markup on.

I wouldn't think it would be 2 months. Nowadays China ships in about a week or 2 for eBay stock

ccfctommy · Oct 17, 2016

theferret said:
Toying with the idea of getting hold of a load of red and black scarves (colours of Singers FC 1892-1898) to sell amongst city fans. This has been an effective and non-confrontational way of demonstrating opposition to club ownership at Man Utd and currently at Charlton - but in our case can be used as a token of dissatisfaction against all parties involved in putting the club in the current situation.

There would be total transparency, all receipts and invoices would be published and any profit would be donated to charity, or to a fund that supports to activities of CCFC fans - again with total transparency.

I know that in the scheme of things it won't make a whole lot of difference, but as a visible act of defiance it could be quite effective.

If people think it's a lame idea, I'm cool with that and please feel free to let me know. If people thing it has legs then I don't mind putting my hand in my pocket to get the ball rolling.

I PM'ed the Trust before the protest ideas meeting and they said they would pass it on. I also PM'd the PSB Group on twitter wih this idea but heard nothing.

clint van damme · Oct 17, 2016

theferret said:
Toying with the idea of getting hold of a load of red and black scarves (colours of Singers FC 1892-1898) to sell amongst city fans. This has been an effective and non-confrontational way of demonstrating opposition to club ownership at Man Utd and currently at Charlton - but in our case can be used as a token of dissatisfaction against all parties involved in putting the club in the current situation.

There would be total transparency, all receipts and invoices would be published and any profit would be donated to charity, or to a fund that supports to activities of CCFC fans - again with total transparency.

I know that in the scheme of things it won't make a whole lot of difference, but as a visible act of defiance it could be quite effective.

If people think it's a lame idea, I'm cool with that and please feel free to let me know. If people thing it has legs then I don't mind putting my hand in my pocket to get the ball rolling.

Good idea, like the idea of the black and red scarves.

christonabike · Oct 17, 2016

Buy loads of gear from China and tends to be 2/3 weeks minimum. Dont forget the old HMRC taxes if you order large amounts. Lots of small batches dont seem to be on the radar.

theferret · Oct 17, 2016

I'll make some enquries and update you when I have placed the order. Knowing my luck, the day they arrive SISU will sell up! Although, I'd take that.

Nick · Oct 17, 2016

theferret said:
I'll make some enquries and update you when I have placed the order. Knowing my luck, the day they arrive SISU will sell up! Although, I'd take that.

If you do look in china, make sure you dont give them your email address.

I get about 5 emails a day still asking if "You want buy silk scarf for lady?".

I think as long as it isn't political and just about CCFC it should be a goer. I can't see why somebody wouldn't, I'd get a couple. Could be something that maybe at least shows a bit of togetherness, you can get a cold neck whether you are boycotting or going into games

wingy · Oct 17, 2016

Jimbo who runs twist and shout got a load made from a company in Yorkshire and made economically and within a couple of weeks for both The Chelsea and Arsenal games
Got him in a bit of bother with the Club.,trading standards and a chat with the Old Bill
I bet there's a company in Coventry would gladly take the order.

wingy · Oct 17, 2016

wingy said:
Jimbo who runs twist and shout got a load made from a company in Yorkshire and made economically and within a couple of weeks for both The Chelsea and Arsenal games
Got him in a bit of bother with the Club.,trading standards and a chat with the Old Bill
I bet there's a company in Coventry would gladly take the order.

Oh and the scourers who did the same vanished into the ether

Wheelfass · Oct 17, 2016

2 x for me please.

Nick · Oct 17, 2016

wingy said:
Jimbo who runs twist and shout got a load made from a company in Yorkshire and made economically and within a couple of weeks for both The Chelsea and Arsenal games
Got him in a bit of bother with the Club.,trading standards and a chat with the Old Bill
I bet there's a company in Coventry would gladly take the order.

Were they half and half?

I guess if they don't use any badges it should be ok.

Cavan O'Doherty · Oct 17, 2016

theferret said:
Toying with the idea of getting hold of a load of red and black scarves (colours of Singers FC 1892-1898) to sell amongst city fans. This has been an effective and non-confrontational way of demonstrating opposition to club ownership at Man Utd and currently at Charlton - but in our case can be used as a token of dissatisfaction against all parties involved in putting the club in the current situation.

There would be total transparency, all receipts and invoices would be published and any profit would be donated to charity, or to a fund that supports to activities of CCFC fans - again with total transparency.

I know that in the scheme of things it won't make a whole lot of difference, but as a visible act of defiance it could be quite effective.

If people think it's a lame idea, I'm cool with that and please feel free to let me know. If people thing it has legs then I don't mind putting my hand in my pocket to get the ball rolling.

Great idea Will be purchasing one. It's about time we started to organise things like this. Together we must stand

rd45 · Oct 18, 2016

theferret said:
Toying with the idea of getting hold of a load of red and black scarves (colours of Singers FC 1892-1898) to sell amongst city fans. This has been an effective and non-confrontational way of demonstrating opposition to club ownership at Man Utd and currently at Charlton - but in our case can be used as a token of dissatisfaction against all parties involved in putting the club in the current situation.

There would be total transparency, all receipts and invoices would be published and any profit would be donated to charity, or to a fund that supports to activities of CCFC fans - again with total transparency.

I know that in the scheme of things it won't make a whole lot of difference, but as a visible act of defiance it could be quite effective.

If people think it's a lame idea, I'm cool with that and please feel free to let me know. If people thing it has legs then I don't mind putting my hand in my pocket to get the ball rolling.

I'll take a couple for me & my son. Good to do something visible - liked the look of the black & white ones at Charlton.

Ashdown · Oct 18, 2016

No, because we do need 'Confrontational' ! Peaceful protest never changed anything. Much preferred the game disrupting idea of the pink pigs and any other ideas like that are going to catch the eye of the media. I'm not saying affray or riot but disruptive, noisy or visual and unusual.

theferret · Oct 18, 2016

Ashdown said:
No, because we do need 'Confrontational' ! Peaceful protest never changed anything. Much preferred the game disrupting idea of the pink pigs and any other ideas like that are going to catch the eye of the media. I'm not saying affray or riot but disruptive, noisy or visual and unusual.

I wasn't suggesting this be done instead of those things, it can be done as well as. But point taken.

Fergusons_Beard · Oct 18, 2016

Should really be black scarves as the singers were known as the 'little blackbirds'. Cause of their all black kit-only red was S on badge. This colour also goes well with 'death of our club' etc Red and Black just looks like Manure....

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Pipehitterz · Oct 18, 2016

Can we have Little pigs embroidered on the ends?

Liquid Gold · Oct 18, 2016

Id buy one, get them sorted

rd45 · Oct 18, 2016

Fergusons_Beard said:
Should really be black scarves as the singers were known as the 'little blackbirds'. Cause of their all black kit-only red was S on badge. This colour also goes well with 'death of our club' etc Red and Black just looks like Manure....

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Black scarf with SISU OUT in red?

Otis · Oct 18, 2016

rd45 said:
Black scarf with SISU OUT in red?

Or, as we 'apparently ' don't blame the council for anything, black scarf with 'Council out' in black.

Fergusons_Beard · Oct 19, 2016

Otis said:
Or, as we 'apparently ' don't blame the council for anything, black scarf with 'Council out' in black.

Council out on one side Sisu out ont'other?

Would appeal to all.....

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Pipehitterz · Oct 19, 2016

How about,
Wait for this, cuz it's genius

CCCISU OUT
Eh? Eh? Come on, eh?

Chuckling to myself over a cuppa

lewys33 · Oct 19, 2016

wingy said:
Jimbo who runs twist and shout got a load made from a company in Yorkshire and made economically and within a couple of weeks for both The Chelsea and Arsenal games
Got him in a bit of bother with the Club.,trading standards and a chat with the Old Bill
I bet there's a company in Coventry would gladly take the order.

Ah yes I remember that very well. There was a guy working for the club at the time who was not keen on TnS and decided to be a nuisance (whether decided himself or the club told him to I don't know). Told us we couldn't sell TnS or badges on the ricoh grounds whilst CCFC controlled it (matchdays). Come the chelsea game there were several people around the ground selling stuff - who you had never seen before and had a dodgy accent. Of course this employee didn't bother with them and went straight for Jimbo. I got quite angry, they threatened to arrest me so I just had to shut up. Just another reminder of how the club treated the fans though ..........

Colin Steins Smile · Oct 19, 2016

lewys33 said:
Ah yes I remember that very well. There was a guy working for the club at the time who was not keen on TnS and decided to be a nuisance (whether decided himself or the club told him to I don't know). Told us we couldn't sell TnS or badges on the ricoh grounds whilst CCFC controlled it (matchdays). Come the chelsea game there were several people around the ground selling stuff - who you had never seen before and had a dodgy accent. Of course this employee didn't bother with them and went straight for Jimbo. I got quite angry, they threatened to arrest me so I just had to shut up. Just another reminder of how the club treated the fans though ..........

As the ground is now owned by Wasps, who are not currently prepared to negotiate with the club until SISU stop litigation. It might be worth asking them for permission to sell the red & black scarves outside the Ricoh?

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