skybluefred
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Just the thought of that makes me feel sick.
Sometimes a mutual friend needs to introduce girl and Bert, and once they've done so they find they have lots in common after all.
Maybe after the blind date, Fisher and Lucas might be ripping each others' clothes off and forming a life partnership.
And how can you say about not having our club and stadium united when you know it won't be owned by our club? We need this explained more.
What I would be the happiest with would be if SISU and CCC came to an agreement that the arena was always tied to our club, and if there were ever bad debts to cover like admin or even liquidation the arena would be converted back to CCC but would belong to CCFC otherwise.
We really should push for it.
Sisu say no, ACL say yes - confirms what we know, Sisu are scum.
Sisu say no, ACL say no - both as bad as each other, idiots.
Sisu say yes, ACL say no - hmm.
Sisu say yes, ACL say yes - bingo. Things could possibly move on.
So what sort of deal are you talking about? Purchasing ACL? Valueless? Joy wants much more anyway. Or are you saying the arena might be valueless whatever?
I think we can solve this thread by saying, let's wait until the JR has flew by, by that time more facts are in the open for all parties and fair negotiations can take place, while establishing a realistic value for purchase.
I would just say that if CCC value the 50% at £0 why don't the Club just purchase the Councils share if they know it's not worth anything??
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I don't know, thats why I think it needs a proper valuation.
Let's see, shall we?
Potential deals could indeed include the club buying ACL. They could also include a long term rental deal, or some other deal. All 'sides' claim to want a deal for the benefit of the football club, so let's see who's afraid of putting that statement to the test.
Words are empty, action less so.
I think we can solve this thread by saying, let's wait until the JR has flew by, by that time more facts are in the open for all parties and fair negotiations can take place, while establishing a realistic value for purchase.
I would just say that if CCC value the 50% at £0 why don't the Club just purchase the Councils share if they know it's not worth anything??
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I don't think that statement is entirely true. Sisu's only apparent concern is their investors--it certainly isn't CCFC or the supporters.
The only construction that makes sense will be to have the stadium in a prop-co under SBS&L.
Having ACL owned by an outside arm of sisu will be like the current setup, and I can't see how the revenues from ACL could be counted towards the FFP formula.
That is probably easy as CCC will still own the freehold, so the lease could probably in some way be tied to the golden share.
I agree nothing will happen until after the JR.
If the CCC share is worth nothing, why would Sisu want it?
The golden share has nothing to do with where a club plays. It just gives a club a right to play in the FL.
The golden share has nothing to do with where a club plays. It just gives a club a right to play in the FL.
Has anyone figured out what Mark Labovitch's job is yet?
How could a mediator force either Sisu to buy or the council to sell?
Someone could negotiate a deal, but unless sisu are serious about buying for a fair price, and the council and higgs selling, then it would be pointless.
I think we can solve this thread by saying, let's wait until the JR has flew by, by that time more facts are in the open for all parties and fair negotiations can take place, while establishing a realistic value for purchase.
I would just say that if CCC value the 50% at £0 why don't the Club just purchase the Councils share if they know it's not worth anything??
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Has anyone figured out what Mark Labovitch's job is yet?
Well it involves a large Wooden Spoon.
Wow, look how off-topic this thread has gone.
Think a few people who post regular threads on this site may be in for a huge shock in the coming weeks! PUSB
Oh come on, it can't be too hard to put a clause on the lease of the Ricoh saying it will be void if transferred to a company or consortium not holding the golden share. So the owner of ACL, holder of the long lease at the Ricoh, will always be the owner of the football club. If they try to sell one - they must sell both or the lease is cancelled.
Sisu's pie in the sky Conference league standard new stadium is reputedly going to cost circa £30 to £40m. On that basis the Ricoh is worth
at least £80m.
Humour me? Why?
Has anyone figured out what Mark Labovitch's job is yet?
Being a first class cock.
Being a first class cock.
You keep posting this stuff bigging up SISU's position, yet offer no evidence to support your views. Put up or shut up please.
Thing is, it wasn't the club/SISU who refused to discuss mediation or a three year run-off clause in a rental deal when this all blew up. What's done is done, however, and we are where we are and all that jizz.
We're also not going to get anywhere by raking up the past. That includes SISU raking up the great ills done to them - the only way we move forward is if we ask the question 'how can this be resolved?'
What I want to know is what reasons exist that make the current situation better than attempting resolution?
I'm not "bigging up" anyone's position, as you put it! As you well know anything can happen but .............
Surely him being a cock would be a fine reason to neutralise him in a negotiating process, by putting in place somebody who wouldn't bother with the rhetoric, but rather what was on the table?
I'm not "bigging up" anyone's position, as you put it! As you well know anything can happen but .............
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