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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #211
Nick said:
Are people really shocked that there are religious people that disagree with homosexuality? Some of them being footballers.
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You say that like sexuality is a life choice
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #212
rob9872 said:
I think the issue is more that they're inconsistently taking a stand against this but not betting on their shirts etc. I'm of the opinion it should be a choice and forcing them to wear it is wrong, but don't hide behind the religion as an excuse. Either all in for it or not at all. Not sure why Guehi is getting more criticism than Morsy though. I can only assume they're less scared of backlash from his Christian beliefs ...
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Oh I wasn't saying it was right. Just that it's not a surprise.
 

Nick

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #213
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You say that like sexuality is a life choice
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I'm not religious or disagreeing with it.

Just wondering why people are shocked that footballers have views. (whether we agree with them or not).
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #214
rob9872 said:
I think the issue is more that they're inconsistently taking a stand against this but not betting on their shirts etc. I'm of the opinion it should be a choice and forcing them to wear it is wrong, but don't hide behind the religion as an excuse. Either all in for it or not at all. Not sure why Guehi is getting more criticism than Morsy though. I can only assume they're less scared of backlash from his Christian beliefs ...
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Not sure how we're measuring the extent of the backlash, but Guehi has deliberately chosen to flout the rules having been reminded of them after the previous game. We can have a separate discussion over whether those rules are fair (personally they strike me as harsh) but it's no surprise that he's given the press more to write about by acting the way he has.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #215
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You say that like sexuality is a life choice
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That’s not really relatable to what he said.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #216
Nick said:
Are people really shocked that there are religious people that disagree with homosexuality? Some of them being footballers.
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It’s strange
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #217
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s strange
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Not really.
 

Nick

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #218
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s strange
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What, that people are shocked or there are people who disagree with homosexuality?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #219
I mean this is the modern world in Wycombe!

Same Sex Marriage – Wycombe Islamic Society

wise-web.org
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #220
Grendel said:
That’s not really relatable to what he said.
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Yes it is. How can you disagree with a sexuality if it isn’t a choice?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #221
He could ask somebody else to wear the armband but still captain the side.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #222
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes it is. How can you disagree with a sexuality if it isn’t a choice?
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Because some religions do. I think the word “islamaphobia” is thrown around a lot in here. One of its principal teaching is homosexual acts are a sin. So surely if you don’t respect that view you are islamaphobic?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #223
Grendel said:
Because some religions do. I think the word “islamaphobia” is thrown around a lot in here. One of its principal teaching is homosexual acts are a sin. So surely if you don’t respect that view you are islamaphobic?
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Just objectively speaking we know that sexuality is not a choice. So while I suppose you can ‘have a problem’ with it, you can’t disagree with that being how somebody is.
 

Nick

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #224
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Just objectively speaking we know that sexuality is not a choice. So while I suppose you can ‘have a problem’ with it, you can’t disagree with that being how somebody is.
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It's not us you need to preach that to, that's my point.

The issue here is who do people want to upset, gay people or religious? It's a tough one for the virtue signallers, probably why D'OD has been quiet.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #225
Nick said:
What, that people are shocked or there are people who disagree with homosexuality?
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Yes
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #226
Nick said:
It's not us you need to preach that to, that's my point.

The issue here is who do people want to upset, gay people or religious? It's a tough one for the virtue signallers, probably why D'OD has been quiet.
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I would March for morsy to be entitled to his belief that being gay is against his faith.
I would also March to say being gay is not a reason to be treated any differently than any other person
 

Nick

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #227
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yes
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Which one?
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #228
Grendel said:
I think the word “islamaphobia” is thrown around a lot in here. One of its principal teaching is homosexual acts are a sin. So surely if you don’t respect that view you are islamaphobic?
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Islamophobia is when you discriminate against or show prejudice/hostility towards Muslims because of their faith. It's not about whether or not you hold Islamic views.

I share your lack of respect for any religious person's view that homosexuality to be a sin (is it a "principal teaching" of Islam btw?) But for me that doesn't translate into making generalisations about any religious group more broadly, nor would I see a need to be hostile towards them if they're not being hostile to anyone else.
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #229
The issue is when picking and choosing.




Must be nice to be able to pick and choose bits from a religion to follow.

Probably the same as when you see people preaching about allah but you know they drink and gamble.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #230
Nick said:
Which one?
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I was being funny
Shocked that people are shocked there might be footballers or anyone that might be against homosexuality
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #231
Nick said:
The issue is when picking and choosing.

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Must be nice to be able to pick and choose bits from a religion to follow.

Probably the same as when you see people preaching about allah but you know they drink and gamble.
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None of us is perfect Nick
 

Nick

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #232
Sky Blue Pete said:
None of us is perfect Nick
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Oh I know that. Just saying surely you can't pick or choose certain parts?

That's the thing when people go so far to make a point about principles and morals.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #233
Nick said:
Oh I know that. Just saying surely you can't pick or choose certain parts?
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I mean, pretty much all religious people do exactly this
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #234
SBT said:
I mean, pretty much all religious people do exactly this
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Plonkers then aren't they!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #235
Nick said:
Oh I know that. Just saying surely you can't pick or choose certain parts?

That's the thing when people go so far to make a point about principles and morals.
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We all do religious or not
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #236
Sky Blue Pete said:
None of us is perfect Nick
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You'll change your opinion if we ever meet.
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #237
SBT said:
I mean, pretty much all religious people do exactly this
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100%
 
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Macca

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #238
Arm bands, laces, changing social media profiles to Ukrainian flags. I believe they call it Slacktivism. As I said earlier you don't need any of this. All we need to do is to make 1 judgement on a person regardless of colour, creed, sexuality, or religion. Are they a c**t?

Yes I know, I used to ghost write for Martin Luther King.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #239
Macca said:
Arm bands, laces, changing social media profiles to Ukrainian flags. I believe they call it Slacktivism. As I said earlier you don't need any of this. All we need to do is to make 1 judgement on a person regardless of colour, creed, sexuality, or religion. Are they a c**t?

Yes I know, I used to ghost write for Martin Luther King.
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I’d wear that arm band
Don’t be a cxxt
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #240
Nick said:
Isn't this like the gay people for Palestine stuff? Not realising the country would probably throw you off a building for being gay.

Morsy is Muslim and guehi is from a very religious up bringing.

I'm not sure the fa can say to keep religious messages out when trying to put other messages out that might be the opposite to what players believe (rightly or wrongly).
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I thought Guehi’s point was that Jesus would have loved anyone irrespective of sexuality or gender… despite how people may interpret an ancient text.

Unless I’ve completely misunderstood.
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #241
Just realise his surname sounds like gay lol
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #242
Nick said:
The issue is when picking and choosing.

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Must be nice to be able to pick and choose bits from a religion to follow.

Probably the same as when you see people preaching about allah but you know they drink and gamble.
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That’s the thing; they’re using religion as an excuse for their bigotry. It’s a man made concept trying to dictate nature ffs.
 
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Macca

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #243
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’d wear that arm band
Don’t be a cxxt
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Arm band cnut
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #244
Macca said:
Arm bands, laces, changing social media profiles to Ukrainian flags. I believe they call it Slacktivism. As I said earlier you don't need any of this. All we need to do is to make 1 judgement on a person regardless of colour, creed, sexuality, or religion. Are they a c**t?

Yes I know, I used to ghost write for Martin Luther King.
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Why are you picking on cunts?

Nothing wrong with us cunts, leave your bigotry elsewhere.
 
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Macca

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  • Dec 6, 2024
  • #245
rob9872 said:
Why are you picking on cunts?

Nothing wrong with us cunts, leave your bigotry elsewhere.
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I'm ain't cuntalist. Some of my best friend are cunts
 
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