skybluecam
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I can only remember Millwall maybe? And yeah that was bad, although I think it was motivated by fans rather than players?
I can only remember Millwall maybe? And yeah that was bad, although I think it was motivated by fans rather than players?Lots have. We (cov) played against teams that didn't do it when we did remember.
Come on mate. Douglas Murray is a pretty well known person who many would regard as 'far right', and he is gay. He writes a lot and very well about the threat of Islam to his way of life.
I don't think people with right leaning views are pretending to care about LGBT rights in general either.
So he loves Hitler, wars, famine and cancer? Sounds like a bit of a c**t tbf.Absolutely right. I am proud to be a practising Christian but have little time for Bible fundamentalists.
The New Testament was mainly written many years after Christ and is subject to the failings of human memory. It is the work of humans and therefore prone to error both in the writing and the interpretation of it.
The errors include mistakes in translation. It was originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic, then translated into Greek and only about 1,400 years after Christ was it translated into Medieval English. Even after that it has been updated many times.
I wonder what Bible fundamentalists make of the so-called Adulters Bible? An error was made in printing it and as a result the sixth commandment reads, “Thou shalt commit adultery”.
The Bible should be read and interpreted with reason and common sense. I have no doubt but that God loves us all, including members of the LGBGT+ community.
So he loves Hitler, wars, famine and cancer? Sounds like a bit of a c**t tbf.
Correction - the New Testament was originally written in Greek, the Koine Greek version from the first century.Absolutely right. I am proud to be a practising Christian but have little time for Bible fundamentalists.
The New Testament was mainly written many years after Christ and is subject to the failings of human memory. It is the work of humans and therefore prone to error both in the writing and the interpretation of it.
The errors include mistakes in translation. It was originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic, then translated into Greek and only about 1,400 years after Christ was it translated into Medieval English. Even after that it has been updated many times.
I wonder what Bible fundamentalists make of the so-called Adulters Bible? An error was made in printing it and as a result the sixth commandment reads, “Thou shalt commit adultery”.
The Bible should be read and interpreted with reason and common sense. I have no doubt but that God loves us all, including members of the LGBGT+ community.
Sure thing. It’s not like the next far right US President spent tens of millions of dollars to run adverts on trans athletes…Come on mate. Douglas Murray is a pretty well known person who many would regard as 'far right', and he is gay. He writes a lot and very well about the threat of Islam to his way of life.
I don't think people with right leaning views are pretending to care about LGBT rights in general either.
Sure thing. It’s not like the next far right US President spent tens of millions of dollars to run adverts on trans athletes…
The right clearly do care enough about the T of LGBT to keep going on about trans athletes.Mate, you're like a malfunctioning triggered leftist robot since Trump won the election.
Relax!
Not even sure that's a left right thing tbhThe right clearly do care enough about the T of LGBT to keep going on about trans athletes.
It’s hardly hypocritical ffs they’re bigots hiding behind their religion and I’m not going to apologise for saying that either.“Maybe the UK isn’t the place for them” is massively hypocritical.
Neither Morsy or Guehi or McLean or whoever is next to ‘step out of line’, is forcing their beliefs on anyone. It’s very much closer to the other way round. As has been said by the sensible, there are so many better ways to promote it that doesn’t include empty gestures by players. Kit on, play, kit off, go home. That’s all it needs to be.
Across the pond one side is trying to make it one.Not even sure that's a left right thing tbh
It’s hardly hypocritical ffs they’re bigots hiding behind their religion and I’m not going to apologise for saying that either.
Correction - the New Testament was originally written in Greek, the Koine Greek version from the first century.
There may have been fragments that were translations from Aramaic or Hebrew but this is disputed by scholars.
My point standsThe languages mainly spoken by the persons depicted in the New Testament (apart from the Romans) were Aramaic and Hebrew.
Their words were then translated into Greek before, after 1,400 years, being translated into Medieval English. Over time it was translated into the St James Bible and subsequently into more modern versions.
The fact is that, as the words have been translated many times, there is plenty of scope for error and for people to come to different interpretations depending upon which version they read. This was my point.
I find the breadth of the discussions that we have on SBT to be quite amazing and part of the joy of it.
The beauty of the modern day. Despite what many seem to think, you don’t have to apologise for your view, fuck them if they expect it.
No. You're upset about the US election and you're projecting on everything.
I like you a lot Brighton, but since Trump won you've let it get the better of you.
Wrong one
Not particularly, it's relevant in response to the idea that right wing politics doesn't touch LGBT issues when it was a major feature of a presidential campaign this year.No. You're upset about the US election and you're projecting on everything.
I like you a lot Brighton, but since Trump won you've let it get the better of you.
I think at some point, we're going to be using every letter of the alphabet.It is LGBTQUI+, as a minimum.
And it seems to be the T, well maybe MAPs as well.
Yep what’s 4-5% of say 25 in a squad times 20 teamsPerhaps again worth asking why there aren’t more openly gay men playing football.
I suppose clubs will have to get separate showers and stuff wouldn’t they naatYep what’s 4-5% of say 25 in a squad times 20 teams
yep 20 so you’d think
Even if it’s 1%, that still means you’re looking at dozens of players in league clubs having to hide their sexuality. I don’t think the armband will do a great deal to change thatYep what’s 4-5% of say 25 in a squad times 20 teams
yep 20 so you’d think
There was an interesting interview on 5live this morning with a fella who runs a company that works with EPL clubs to look after players welfare.Actions speak louder than tokenism. I wonder how many of those who are wearing the arm band actually adopt the principles it represents or just wear it because they are told to
Definitely. Otherwise they would be staring at other players' penises In the showers.I suppose clubs will have to get separate showers and stuff wouldn’t they naat
Yeah think this is a pretty overlooked aspect here and is pretty central to the story. Ipswich seem to have handled it pretty well seeing as fan groups were notified of Morsy’s decision in advance etc. But if Man Utd players weren’t aware of the campaign until they were shown the Jackets of Shame in the dressing room before the game then it’s no surprise if it ends in a mess.Quite a long interview but one thing he was saying players are often just given t shirts or laces or whatever and td to wear them without anyone actually talking to them about the issue they're supposed to be representing.
Does Guehi write 'I love jesus' on the normal black captains armband? If not, why not? Why just on the rainbow one? Not a good look for a current England international.
I think the issue is more that they're inconsistently taking a stand against this but not betting on their shirts etc. I'm of the opinion it should be a choice and forcing them to wear it is wrong, but don't hide behind the religion as an excuse. Either all in for it or not at all. Not sure why Guehi is getting more criticism than Morsy though. I can only assume they're less scared of backlash from his Christian beliefs ...Are people really shocked that there are religious people that disagree with homosexuality? Some of them being footballers.
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