Nick
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He said black players should stand tall, as opposed to taking the knee.
It doesn't make him racist.
make a statement saying others should stop.
It's almost like Wilfried Zaha has more authority and credibility on anti-racist protests than a bunch of white guys on a football forum.
It would also be more helpful if people actually listened to the message Zaha and others are trying to send, rather than use their words as a convenient excuse for their own apathy.
He said black players should stand tall, as opposed to taking the knee.
It doesn't make him racist.
Zaha definitely has credibility. So do the hundreds of other footballers of all races who continue to take the knee.It's almost like Wilfried Zaha has more authority and credibility on anti-racist protests than a bunch of white guys on a football forum.
It would also be more helpful if people actually listened to the message Zaha and others are trying to send, rather than use their words as a convenient excuse for their own apathy.
Yeah, he was against the actual "gesture" but not the meaning. Exactly what I have said.
Obviously, completely different if people are against the meaning.
Zaha has repeatedly called for strong action to be taken against racism in football - he just doesn't take the knee to do so. My issue is with people who twist that into justifying their own view that the racism issue is overblown, 'divisive', or somehow 'politicised', and decide that because Zaha doesn't take the knee, that gives them the green light to ignore the cause entirely, to keep on doing nothing.
It's always interesting to see which black voices certain people are quick to amplify, and which ones they choose to ignore.
No he didn’t. He said he feels black players should stand tall. Nick, he explicitly says “there’s no right or wrong decision” and it’s “for me personally”. Comparing him to someone coming on here posting a thread saying we should stop or someone booing at games is disingenuous.
Several teams are no longer taking the Knee, that doesn't make them racist, I believe it's pointless.
All off you getting your nickers in a twist are you still clapping the NHS every Thursday night.
The point has been made.
It raises awareness up to a point, but eventually becomes ineffective.
I pointed that out because of the "it's racist if you don't agree" generalisation. You have mashed a few different articles together.
Of course it's different to booing, him feeling players shouldn't take the knee and stand tall though isn't much different to somebody saying they think the gesture of taking the knee is pointless BUT racism is an issue.
Genius.Just a thought but why don't all in favour of taking the Knee follow suit, then we will know who's racist and who isn't.
Bloody right as well! - I mean hurling abuse. I'm pretty certain that there's something in the rules that states you can't bring the missus along to mind half the goal.I dont think it was racism, a guy got escorted out of my block for shouting abuse at the Stoke goalkeeper, I think it was about the keeper and his missus
I dont think it was racism, a guy got escorted out of my block for shouting abuse at the Stoke goalkeeper, I think it was about the keeper and his missus
I dont think it was racism, a guy got escorted out of my block for shouting abuse at the Stoke goalkeeper, I think it was about the keeper and his missus
Or alternatively this is a different bloke?Very interesting…
A blokes life could be ruined because of some false claims and the club wanting to score a few brownie points.
Tbf it’s not just the goalkeepers that do that. I regularly see Ohare’s misses on the pitch.Bloody right as well! - I mean hurling abuse. I'm pretty certain that there's something in the rules that states you can't bring the missus along to mind half the goal.
Very interesting…
A blokes life could be ruined because of some false claims and the club wanting to score a few brownie points.
Unless they’ve checked the CCTV and there is obvious monkey gestures or something, one has to wonder how the club or police can say with absolute certainty that the supporter was racist.
Do they just take the word of whoever grassed? What’s stopping me kicking up a fuss and reporting the smelly bloke who sits in front of me for racism and getting him banned?
Very interesting…
A blokes life could be ruined because of some false claims and the club wanting to score a few brownie points.
Berdum tisssshhhhh!Tbf it’s not just the goalkeepers that do that. I regularly see Ohare’s misses on the pitch.
Very interesting…
A blokes life could be ruined because of some false claims and the club wanting to score a few brownie points.
You've gone from wanting monkey gestures on CCTV to validate a racism claim to just accepting the word of some poster on a forum. Feels like double standards.
I read somewhere that it was the goalkeeper sub that was abused during the warmup.The Stoke keeper was white as well so any one thrown out for racism is not going to be the same person thrown out for abusing him.
I read somewhere that it was the goalkeeper sub that was abused during the warmup.
You got bail then?afternoon all just popping in to say hi,
Their sub keeper was Frank Fielding who is also whiteI read somewhere that it was the goalkeeper sub that was abused during the warmup.
I'm a bit worried. Too many white people. Where are the blacks?Their sub keeper was Frank Fielding who is also white
You got bail then?
sorry to disappoint otis, but the guy in question is definately not me.
Where are the blacks?
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