skybluefred
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Somebody like the Port Vale owner who is a life long City fan, who has made his money and wants to invest in the Team
he grew up with and love's. Sorry but that's just ruled out sisu.
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And I'll say the same to you as I said to TT. What sort of owners DO you want?
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Somebody like the Port Vale owner who is a life long City fan, who has made his money and wants to invest in the Team
he grew up with and love's. Sorry but that's just ruled out sisu.
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Port Vale's Smurthwaite, who has banned the local Sentinel newspaper from Vale Park, after one of its reporters asked when fans could expect delivery of some £55 shirts they paid for months ago. If only that were it. But apparently keen to stake his claim as the most extravagantly fatuous man in the English game – and what a field that is – Smurthwaite now demands the Sentinel pay him £10,000 a year for the privilege of covering Port Vale. Arrogant? He doesn't think so. "IF THAT IS ARRAGORANCE," Smurthwaite tweeted, "I WILL ACCEPT THAT BUT NO MORE FREEBIES END OFF" (all spellings very much sic).
I'd add to that owners that have the interests of the football club at heart and not just seeing it as a way of making money for its investors. One that listens to the fans and response accordingly. One who's head is not afraid to face the fans and not do it by proxy. A sensible owner who will make Coventry City a sustainable football club for the future fans.
Personally I think SISU have failed on all counts.
As I've seen someone claiming to be him post here before, I'll link him to the article so he can have a right to reply
http://www.theguardian.com/football...e-united-journalist-alex-ferguson-mike-ashley
They have.
Although I would add that listening to the fans is maybe more complex than that.
After all the fans demanded big names.
We got Tim Sherwood as a result of the head listening to that desire.
Good luck with that ^^.
Why good luck?
Have you accepted that football is that rotten we can't, sorry, shouldn't expect honesty and integrity in our game.
Look at our first 4 divisions and see how many have either gone into admin or have had financial clauses levied against them. If football was any other business the government would have stepped in years ago to legislate against it.
Through it all it's the bloody fans that suffer!
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so no big names if it means we're breaking the bank.
Why good luck?
Have you accepted that football is that rotten we can't, sorry, shouldn't expect honesty and integrity in our game.
Look at our first 4 divisions and see how many have either gone into admin or have had financial clauses levied against them. If football was any other business the government would have stepped in years ago to legislate against it.
Through it all it's the bloody fans that suffer!
Which is why I said good luck with that. Good owners are few and far between, as as Brighton pointed out earlier in the thread fans don't care when you're buying players, being successful, but when you stop doing that fans moan.
I agree with what you said earlier, I want a sustainable football club, I don't want a sugar daddy owner and if we ever get through this current crap we're in, I never want for us to be out at risk of this happening to us again.
Reckon we're at the stage where this would be embraced by the majority?
After all, few complained when Westwood, Eastwood, gunnarson, Fox, Dann etc were signed. Few asked where the money were coming from, this was 'good business sense'.
Just wondering if we're at the stage where actions would be challenged whoever took over, or if we're still able to be easily got around with a vague platitude about being debt free, how the fans martter, or how councillors would be sneaking back in disguise to watch the team as the football was so good.
The thing is any decision, even to move the club 35 miles, can be accepted by enough fans if explained properly and done in the interests of the club.
The problem with Sisu has often been not so much the strategy, but their ability to communicate it. Unfortunately as any two bit leadership trainer will tell you, it's no good having vision if you can't communicate it to stakeholders.
We are obviously seen by Fisher, Seppala, et al as a bunch of idiots and that gets peoples backs up as much as anything.
Whilst the last sentence may indeed be true, the initial strategy was indeed embraced, but that as much was embraced because the strategy (spunk a bit of cash, hope for a promotion and with it the ability to run cackling into the night) wasn't conveyed to the fans!
So wasting money on players not good enough is the same as moving our club to Northampton?
How many club owners are in it for the love of their club?
Ideally I'd like owners who can buy ACL and make us self sufficient through the Ricoh revenues so that we don't have to rely on their continued input of cash.
Ideally I would like ones who believe a successful football team at whatever level you are at is the only way to achieve commercial success.
Also ones who when they tell us something whether we like it or not that's pretty much what happens
Dave Whelan
How do you get a successful team in the first place? And please don't suggest spending money they haven't got on players they can't afford...
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Reckon we're at the stage where this would be embraced by the majority?
After all, few complained when Westwood, Eastwood, gunnarson, Fox, Dann etc were signed. Few asked where the money were coming from, this was 'good business sense'.
Just wondering if we're at the stage where actions would be challenged whoever took over, or if we're still able to be easily got around with a vague platitude about being debt free, how the fans martter, or how councillors would be sneaking back in disguise to watch the team as the football was so good.
That is spot on dongo, I think Joy Sepalla despite everything concerning the Sixfields fiasco has realised once she took an interest, that maybe those who were in charge before Fisher, that's Omre Igwe, Tango man Dulieu, perhaps the ceo before Fisher were perhaps shall we be diplomatic and say not the right people. You have to question the transfers of Turner and Gunnarson to Cardiff (a Ranson connection) for way below market value. Might be interesting what the Appleton investigation into past goings on throw up.
Hate to say it, but Joy & Fisher are more efficient than Ranson/Ken/Ingwe & co!
Gunnarson didn't go free, as a young/under 23 player we got money for him.
I do find it comical how some on here claim to be "against both sides" yet do nothing but attack ACL.
I've "attacked" Sisu since before they took over, and though it took a few years to sink in with some people, don't think that there can possibly be one person who believed that Sisu have ever been a good thing for the club.
That argument is over.
Other factors though are still wilfully ignored(generally by the same people who wilfully ignored arguments against Sisu). It always has to be "Heroes" and "Villains" for soem people, when it could be the case that it could be Villains and Villains or even some parties being both.
The football league is an interesting one in my eyes.
Yes, they've let themselves be pushed into a position where they were in effect being told what to do rather than doing the telling. Not sure they should intervene in rent disputes, but they do seem to have allowed things with no more than verbal assurances.
On the other hand, from their POV, if they'd said to us 'OK then, you have no club anymore so sorry, but no league place' I guess their fear is it starts a house of cards with club after club failing once the floodgates are opened.
So from their POV I doubt they're happy about it all(!) but with the club getting to this stage, did they actually have any alternative options open to them?
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