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Match Thread Queens Park Rangers - Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 22nd Oct (2 Viewers)

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TomRad85

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,471
Nick said:
The support staff?
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The dinner lady suggested we go back to a back 5 after the international break, Robins had no choice but to go along with it as she was hand picked by King and has his ear.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,472
Ring Of Steel said:
Rubbish. I don’t think a single person expected a magically good performance tonight, and if they did then they are clueless as to the situation we’re in.
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Having scored in the first 5 minutes against a team who cannot win at home then you’d expect better than we had in the end
 

alexccfc99

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,473
shmmeee said:
We weren’t close to this bad the last two years. And no it’s not just our league position. That’s the problem, it’s the coaches, the support staff, the owner.
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We absolutely were

Do you not remember going to Rotherham last season, by far and away one of the worst sides The Championship will ever see and being completely outplayed?

About this time last year was it
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,474
TomRad85 said:
The dinner lady suggested we go back to a back 5 after the international break, Robins had no choice but to go along with it as she was hand picked by King and has his ear.
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Robins is surrounded by world class players, coaches and support staff but has decided after seven years to forget how to manage.

We can all play this game.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,475
shmmeee said:
Everybody is shit. Only robins has ever not been shit in his career.
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How do you know
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,476
Otis said:
A lot of it does seem to point to King doesn't it.
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The head of recruitment was appointed by Robins
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,477
Get joy back
 

TomRad85

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,478
shmmeee said:
has decided after seven years to forget how to manage.
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This bit certainly seems true.

Why are we unique? He's not the first manager to fall away. Sometimes you just need a change, this forum needs to accept it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,479
Nick said:
How do you know
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Because I’ve been conscious and supporting Coventry City the last seven years?

And I can read LinkedIn. And I don’t think making PowerPoints for the FA or failing to get Ghana out of a group with Mozambique in it match up to what I’ve seen.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,480
shmmeee said:
You think all we need to do is replace Robins.

I think the club is rotten to the core.

We are not alike.
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You have officially gone crazy.
 

TomRad85

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,481
Grendel said:
The head of recruitment was appointed by Robins
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Conveniently forgotten. I'm sure all the coaching staff were employed against his will too.
 

Nick

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,482
shmmeee said:
Because I’ve been conscious and supporting Coventry City the last seven years?

And I can read LinkedIn. And I don’t think making PowerPoints for the FA or failing to get Ghana out of a group with Mozambique in it match up to what I’ve seen.
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Nick

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,483
TomRad85 said:
Conveniently forgotten. I'm sure all the coaching staff were employed against his will too.
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I heard he doesn't get paid either and he's forced by the king brothers like a slave.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,484
Ccfcisparks said:
You have officially gone crazy.
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Just think we’re back where we were when Sisu took over on the pitch. And a few seasons of 17th quickly leads to problems off it.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,485
shmmeee said:
Robins is surrounded by world class players, coaches and support staff but has decided after seven years to forget how to manage.

We can all playog
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TomRad85 said:
This bit certainly seems true.

Why are we unique? He's not the first manager to fall away. Sometimes you just need a change, this forum needs to accept it.
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Majority of managers have a certain shelf life ,when they have a golden period,I think Robins has reached that point.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,486
shmmeee said:
Just think we’re back where we were when Sisu took over on the pitch. And a few seasons of 17th quickly leads to problems off it.
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So we aren’t rotten to the core yet then.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,487
Ccfcisparks said:
So we aren’t rotten to the core yet then.
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Were rotten, we’ve just got the parachute of Viks money and whatever losses Doug has budgeted for. When he realises he’s not selling £30m of talent a season and we aren’t going up who knows what happens.
 

TomRad85

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,488
shmmeee said:
Were rotten, we’ve just got the parachute of Viks money and whatever losses Doug has budgeted for. When he realises he’s not selling £30m of talent a season and we aren’t going up who knows what happens.
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Big Mike happens
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,489
TomRad85 said:
Big Mike happens
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Big Mike has never wanted us and it’s embarrassing to keep going on about him TBH. Doug was clearly the only game in town unless you count Storey.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,490
TomRad85 said:
Big Mike happens
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We need to stop peddling this, it’s not going to happen, it shouldn’t happen

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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,491
I remember April 2023 when we won 3-0 at QPR, it was a not dissimilar game to last night and QPR were on top for longer spells, we scored two breakaway goals in the last 5 minutes to put some gloss on it. This is when we were a side high in confidence pushing for a play off place.

Because of our current form the perception of last night's performance is much worse than the reality.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,492
shmmeee said:
Big Mike has never wanted us and it’s embarrassing to keep going on about him TBH. Doug was clearly the only game in town unless you count Storey.
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alexccfc99 said:
We need to stop peddling this, it’s not going to happen, it shouldn’t happen

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Grendel

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,493
Adge said:
Yes, both their wide men had good games. Was it Smith on the other side who whipped in some great balls across the box? I was glad when he went off as DaSilva as usual couldn’t compete.
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The real worry is we are stuck with Dasilva now
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,494
fernandopartridge said:
I remember April 2023 when we won 3-0 at QPR, it was a not dissimilar game to last night and QPR were on top for longer spells, we scored two breakaway goals in the last 5 minutes to put some gloss on it. This is when we were a side high in confidence pushing for a play off place.

Because of our current form the perception of last night's performance is much worse than the reality.
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That was a much better side who won 3-0
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,495
TomRad85 said:
You reckon all those people came in against Robins' will and he's working with a gun to his head? Given Doug knows little about football i'd suggest Robins had a fair bit of input.
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People like Doug King tend to be confident and believe they are right even with things they have little knowledge on (so he'd fit right in on here!). He's made a fair bit of money and that makes people think they're incredibly smart and know how to run everything.

I'm sure many of us have been in that organisation where someone higher up has these 'great ideas' that those actually running things think are shit. But because they're in charge it's a fait accompli and your choice is either to go along with it, smile and say nice words, or leave.

I think MR has chosen the former and will end up being forced into the latter. Although he has said stuff about supporting the new set-up, he's never come across as being enthusiastic about it (though he is naturally quite dour). I think it's more for PR and showing a united front rather than his genuine belief. I really don't think he has confidence in those around him.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,496
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
People like Doug King tend to be confident and belief they are right even with things they have little knowledge on (so he'd fit right in on here!). He's made a fair bit of money and that makes people think they're incredibly smart and know how to run everything.

I'm sure many of us have been in that organisation where someone higher up has these 'great ideas' that those actually running things think are shit. But because they're in charge it's a fait accompli and your choice is either to go along with it, smile and say nice words, or leave.

I think MR has chosen the former and will end up being forced into the latter. Although he has said stuff about supporting the new set-up, he's never come across as being enthusiastic about it (though he is naturally quite dour). I think it's more for PR and showing a united front rather than his genuine belief. I really don't think he has confidence in those around him.
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Was going to say on your last point, don’t think Marks ever been excited for anything but celebrating in front of a Wolves ball boy
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,497
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I agree. Really want to know who decided to fuck Browne off for Stamenic too.
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You have to assume that we put a hold on Browne because it would have been either him or Stamenic, and hence Browne didn't feel valued and decided to go elsewhere. In reality we could have done with both and with the money we've spent subsequently I think we could have afforded both.

I'd have got Browne over the line regardless and then hopefully Stamenic would have come off. I think having either of those (but Browne especially) would have had far more effect than what we have brought in.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,498
clint van damme said:
Can you name one poster who's said robins is blameless.
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I’m sure everyone blames Robins somewhat it just seems to be the last person that some fans are willing to blame. I don’t think Robins is solely to blame but if we lose against Luton I don’t see why he should be sticking around much longer than Christmas, and I genuinely think Robins is a great guy, I just don’t want us to be in a relegation for the rest of the season.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,499
Skyblue Bangkok said:
That was a much better side who won 3-0
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Were you at the game? We were holding on for most of it after taking the lead early.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,500
Grendel said:
The head of recruitment was appointed by Robins
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With the remit to look for players that fit Doug King's model, so not older, experienced pros.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,501
fernandopartridge said:
I remember April 2023 when we won 3-0 at QPR, it was a not dissimilar game to last night and QPR were on top for longer spells, we scored two breakaway goals in the last 5 minutes to put some gloss on it. This is when we were a side high in confidence pushing for a play off place.

Because of our current form the perception of last night's performance is much worse than the reality.
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Not sure if that is worrying or comforting. Could interpret that as Robins has always been a poor manager at this level and the only difference between now and then is Hamer and Gyokeres who papered over the cracks.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,502
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Not sure if that is worrying or comforting. Could interpret that as Robins has always been a poor manager at this level and the only difference between now and then is Hamer and Gyokeres who papered over the cracks.
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Not really, we created as much last night as we did that day

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alexccfc99

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,503
Grendel said:
The head of recruitment was appointed by Robins
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I know somebody who has been through the recruitment process at CCFC in the past two years and he was interviewed by Mark Robins and a now ex-member of staff (Not Adi or Dennis)

Robins is involved with appointing new members of backroom staff unless that has changed in the time he got the job
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,504
SlowerThanPlatt said:
EMC is now redundant in this system, where is he going to get games to justify the fee?
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We signed Torp and Rudoni for a combined £5.5m just to play them out of position, why would we treat EMC any different
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1,505
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Not sure if that is worrying or comforting. Could interpret that as Robins has always been a poor manager at this level and the only difference between now and then is Hamer and Gyokeres who papered over the cracks.
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The logical conclusion of that interpretation would say that all managers are poor at their respective levels when you take away their best players.
 
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