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no_loyalty

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,871
ProfessorbyGrace said:
Fully deserved win, and I genuinely hope this England team can mount a serious challenge.

Hopefully, we’ve seen the last of Bale, Ramsay, Moore and all the other jobbers in this Welsh team. Page should really be moved on, and I’d really appreciate it if the BBC didn’t ask Ashley Williams to provide any more ‘insights’ on MOTD in the future.
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On the England side, no more Mason Mount please.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,872
A winter tournament is a bit shit though.

I went to a club that had a fan park type thing today and it was great but everybody clears home after cos it’s freezing. It just doesn’t have the whole atmosphere of the World Cup around the country because everybody is wrapped up and cold.

If this was a summer eve people would be buzzing
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,873
Liquid Gold said:
A winter tournament is a bit shit though.

I went to a club that had a fan park type thing today and it was great but everybody clears home after cos it’s freezing. It just doesn’t have the whole atmosphere of the World Cup around the country because everybody is wrapped up and cold.

If this was a summer eve people would be buzzing
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No, this is England. Everyone would have been wrapped up and cold.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,874
The most goals England have ever scored in a World Cup group stage. The handbrake is OFF.

 
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hill83

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,875
Tournament starts now
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,876
Liquid Gold said:
A winter tournament is a bit shit though.

I went to a club that had a fan park type thing today and it was great but everybody clears home after cos it’s freezing. It just doesn’t have the whole atmosphere of the World Cup around the country because everybody is wrapped up and cold.

If this was a summer eve people would be buzzing
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Reduces the minor riots and drunken brawls in the bad weather - the local police will undoubtedly be happier.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,877
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Reduces the minor riots and drunken brawls
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best bits
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,878
hill83 said:
Tournament starts now
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Proper cup football when it gets to the knockout stages, Much prefer it.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,879
Liquid Gold said:
best bits
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https://giphy.com/l0EoAFMYVAeTRo0o0 https://giphy.com/fM0Jf4JOOUB67rpVNr
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,880
Sky Blue Harry H said:
https://giphy.com/l0EoAFMYVAeTRo0o0 https://giphy.com/fM0Jf4JOOUB67rpVNr
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Tbf the Morocco fans have already had a little go in Benelux
 
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rob9872

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,881
Just heard Bellingham's post match interview. So level headed, great vocab, top interview. Not the usual footballer crap. Incredible at 19, future captain material for sure and seems a really decent lad too and family keep him grounded. Could have another genuine star on our hands.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #2,882
hill83 said:
Tournament starts now
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'The BBC, which has first pick of the semi-finals, is sharing television coverage of the tournament in the UK with ITV, which has first and second picks in the last 16 and first pick of the quarter-finals.'

Looks like ITV for both the last 16 and 1/4 finals...
 

Alkhen

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,883
Funny AF coming on here reading this thread after the game has finishe. Exact the same as a Cov matchday thread. So much negativity until a goal goes in then it flips on a dime

Decent display from England, broke down a super negative Welsh team. Bizarre tactics from them considering they needed 4 goals.

All in all that was professional group stage. After battering Iran the middle game was all about not losing, wasn't great but worked out ok.

I think we'll do better against teams like Senegal who aren't set up to defend for 90 mins. England look way better breaking on teams which is hard to do when the likes of Wales don't commit anyone forward.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,884
Holy Macarena.

 

Otis

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,885
Alkhen said:
Funny AF coming on here reading this thread after the game has finishe. Exact the same as a Cov matchday thread. So much negativity until a goal goes in then it flips on a dime

Decent display from England, broke down a super negative Welsh team. Bizarre tactics from them considering they needed 4 goals.

All in all that was professional group stage. After battering Iran the middle game was all about not losing, wasn't great but worked out ok.

I think we'll do better against teams like Senegal who aren't set up to defend for 90 mins. England look way better breaking on teams which is hard to do when the likes of Wales don't commit anyone forward.
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Yup. I thought we were fine in the first half, though a little too unadventurous. Wales just didn't come out of their own half for the most part, which made it a little tougher to get round the back, but we were comfortable and well in control.

It was a little dull to watch, but I was quite happy at the interval. Only ever one team was going to win that match last night. Wales were ridiculously negative.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,886
Robert Page saying "we were outstanding in that first half" brought me to mind of this.

 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,887
Alkhen said:
Funny AF coming on here reading this thread after the game has finishe. Exact the same as a Cov matchday thread. So much negativity until a goal goes in then it flips on a dime

Decent display from England, broke down a super negative Welsh team. Bizarre tactics from them considering they needed 4 goals.

All in all that was professional group stage. After battering Iran the middle game was all about not losing, wasn't great but worked out ok.

I think we'll do better against teams like Senegal who aren't set up to defend for 90 mins. England look way better breaking on teams which is hard to do when the likes of Wales don't commit anyone forward.
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Interesting POV, Alkhen, although that in itself was incredibly negative.

However, i have a nasty feeling that England can only play front-foot, free-flowing football against mediocre opposition, which is why we finish top of the qualifying group. Faced with a half-way-decent side (if you can describe USA that highly), Southgate and the players are utterly clueless as to how to break them down.
People praising certain players to the skies (e.g. Maguire, who had zero defending to do, and Walker who allegedly didn't touch the ball all game) is getting a bit ahead of ourselves!

Maybe he HAS found the right combination, and i look forward to standing corrected in a couple of weeks, but it will be interesting to see who he fields against Senegal. I think we can win against them, but if we face France in the Quarters, we will have no chance.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,888
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Interesting POV, Alkhen, although that in itself was incredibly negative.

However, i have a nasty feeling that England can only play front-foot, free-flowing football against mediocre opposition, which is why we finish top of the qualifying group. Faced with a half-way-decent side (if you can describe USA that highly), Southgate and the players are utterly clueless as to how to break them down.
People praising certain players to the skies (e.g. Maguire, who had zero defending to do, and Walker who allegedly didn't touch the ball all game) is getting a bit ahead of ourselves!

Maybe he HAS found the right combination, and i look forward to standing corrected in a couple of weeks, but it will be interesting to see who he fields against Senegal. I think we can win against them, but if we face France in the Quarters, we will have no chance.
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I would tend to disagree. I don't think we would have no chance. It would be a much slimmer chance though and I would expect us to lose that game.

Definitely in with a shout though, because if you get at France they do have a tendency to fall out with each other and fall apart at times

We would definitely have a chance, but France would be out and out favourites to win.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,889
They’re really clinging on to this “England were better than us in the second half” thing…
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,890
Tommo1993 said:
They’re really clinging on to this “England were better than us in the second half” thing…
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They should actually be saying all three teams were all better than us in all halves of all matches to be honest.

Just a little flutter of life against the US.

Expect Page to sugar coat it, but there's a world of difference between I'm proud of my prayers and we were outstanding isn't there.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,891
Otis said:
They should actually be saying all three teams were all better than us in all halves of all matches to be honest.

Just a little flutter of life against the US.

Expect Page to sugar coat it, but there's a world of difference between I'm proud of my prayers and we were outstanding isn't there.
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England dominated the first half and did nothing with it. England dominated in the second half and absolutely lashed us.

…is what should’ve been said.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,892
The first half was really poor, much better in the second.

Wales were absolutely dreadful though, just abysmal.

Turns out Phil Foden is quite good at football, who knew!
 

Joy Division

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,893
rob9872 said:
Just heard Bellingham's post match interview. So level headed, great vocab, top interview. Not the usual footballer crap. Incredible at 19, future captain material for sure and seems a really decent lad too and family keep him grounded. Could have another genuine star on our hands.
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Going to a fee-paying £6,000 a term school should buy anyone a great vocab. But agree, nice refreshing change from the usual post-match interviews.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,894
For a big fella Kieffer Moore is not very good at being a big fella on a football pitch
 

Alkhen

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,895
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Interesting POV, Alkhen, although that in itself was incredibly negative.

However, i have a nasty feeling that England can only play front-foot, free-flowing football against mediocre opposition, which is why we finish top of the qualifying group. Faced with a half-way-decent side (if you can describe USA that highly), Southgate and the players are utterly clueless as to how to break them down.
People praising certain players to the skies (e.g. Maguire, who had zero defending to do, and Walker who allegedly didn't touch the ball all game) is getting a bit ahead of ourselves!

Maybe he HAS found the right combination, and i look forward to standing corrected in a couple of weeks, but it will be interesting to see who he fields against Senegal. I think we can win against them, but if we face France in the Quarters, we will have no chance.
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Im not getting ahead of myself though, All Im saying is I belive we will look better against teams that dont just sit back. On paper I agree France should be too much for us but I dont think it will be a mauling and there is a chance we can cause an upset. Who knows who france will be playing in the round of 16, they could have a very tough match.

I also belive the USA game was an outlier, Southgate is so bloody conservative. Feels like he drummed into them 'Just dont lose and we are through' was very simlar to the Scotland game at the Euros. Plenty of teams have huffed and puffed in their second games, sneaking late goals or loseing so Im not too concerned about that.

I am worried about the defence coming up a real attacking threat but only time will tell. Id imagine we'd be playing two holding players in Rice and Phillips by that point.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,896
Alkhen said:
Im not getting ahead of myself though, All Im saying is I belive we will look better against teams that dont just sit back. On paper I agree France should be too much for us but I dont think it will be a mauling and there is a chance we can cause an upset. Who knows who france will be playing in the round of 16, they could have a very tough match.

I also belive the USA game was an outlier, Southgate is so bloody conservative. Feels like he drummed into them 'Just dont lose and we are through' was very simlar to the Scotland game at the Euros. Plenty of teams have huffed and puffed in their second games, sneaking late goals or loseing so Im not too concerned about that.

I am worried about the defence coming up a real attacking threat but only time will tell. Id imagine we'd be playing two holding players in Rice and Phillips by that point.
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I'd said before, I see similarities between Southgate and Robins. Both conservative, keep possession and rather not lose managers.

England are a top 8 side, so going out in the quarters against another top 8 side (France probably top 2 tbh) wouldn't be a disgrace. As long as it's not a tepid 0-1 where we passed it around for 80 mins and they score with their first shot on target...
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,897
What are people's thoughts on Kane at the moment?
 

Otis

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,898
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What are people's thoughts on Kane at the moment?
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Not at his best, but still vital in his build-up play and in setting up others.

Last night he set up Foden for the second and put Rashford clean through on goal too.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,899
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What are people's thoughts on Kane at the moment?
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He is one of the few who provides any movement into space off the ball, and some of his balls are exquisite (ooh-err, missus!)
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,900
Haven't read all the posts, but I was really impressed with Callum Wilson when he came on. High work rate, and linked well with others. Made a right nuisance of himself.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,901
Otis said:
Not at his best, but still vital in his build-up play and in setting up others.

Last night he set up Foden for the second and put Rashford clean through on goal too.
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Almost feel like you could play Wilson up top and Kane behind him, threading passes as well as being a goal threat. Won't happen of course.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2,902
One for the "Things that annoy you" thread - "False 10". WTF is that all about???
All bollocks!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What are people's thoughts on Kane at the moment?
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Good citizen
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 30, 2022
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Haven't read all the posts, but I was really impressed with Callum Wilson when he came on. High work rate, and linked well with others. Made a right nuisance of himself.
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As someone who doesn’t watch loads of premier league the way Wilson has developed his game has really impressed me.

He was a proper speed merchant with us but he’s now great in tight spaces and incredibly unselfish in the penalty box.
 
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Skybluefaz

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Good citizen
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One for the teenagers
 
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