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lifeskyblue · Dec 4, 2022

Bellingham best player in an England shirt by a country mile. Think saka will do better second half as Senegal have to take risks but I feel is too easily ‘bullied’ when he doesn’t have space.
Although Henderson scored he is past his footballing best but clearly looked up to by younger players. Would like to see him replaced by maddison after 60mins

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Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

Johnnythespider said:
Like prime Viera

Hold your horses , not just yet

Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

Liquid Gold said:
He was my first thought but being Argentinian I’m not sure.

Not arsed me

Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

I think sven could have done better with England , but there were alot of good teams , hard to compare eras , could Southgate have taken that England dream to glory as manager ? Doubt it

wingy · Dec 4, 2022

Otis said:
Don't know him. Is he the lesser known brother of Patrick?

Same mother
She didn't have time to make it to hospital .
Ultimately delivered by Amazon

Liquid Gold · Dec 4, 2022

Evo1883 said:
Not arsed me

I don’t care about it but I weirdly wonder if it would come into play if we had them in a tournament knockout.

They really hate HATE us over there.

Deleted member 9744 · Dec 4, 2022

Grendel said:
Southgate will be the most successful international manager for England in my lifetime - I’m sure you’ll still complain his lack of ambition as we score our 11th goal of the competition

He is the most successful manager in my lifetime and in most posters on here. By quite a distance

Deleted member 9744 · Dec 4, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Robins is the most successful City manager in mine. Really this is two sides of the same coin

So why the inconsistency?

Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

Deleted member 9744 said:
He is the most successful manager in my lifetime and in most posters on here. By quite a distance

It's still very hard to not look at the fact that the routes we had in past tournaments were a piece of piss , compared to what we're about to go through

It's undeniably a reason he managed to take us where he did , he failed in ALL his major matches against decent sides

Euros v Italy

WC v Croatia

Nations league v Dutch

Fuxked all 3 with his negative tactics

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 4, 2022

That's Henderson in from now on - can't drop the goalscorers.

TomRad85 · Dec 4, 2022

Evo1883 said:
It's still very hard to not look at the fact that the routes we had in past tournaments were a piece of piss , compared to what we're about to go through

I think ultimately he's yet to show that he's capable of putting a plan together to beat the top tier teams. Beat the teams we should be beating generally which is good but I think we're about to find out vs France whether he's learned any lessons.

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Grendel · Dec 4, 2022

Deleted member 9744 said:
He is the most successful manager in my lifetime and in most posters on here. By quite a distance

He i suspect will be gone after this tournament but you are disappointed at a semi final and final makes you yearn for the Cappello years

Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

TomRad85 said:
I think ultimately he's yet to show that he's capable of putting a plan together to beat the top tier teams. Beat the teams we should be beating generally which is good but I think we're about to find out vs France whether he's learned any lessons.

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No top side will employ him after his England stint I'm sure of that

TomRad85 · Dec 4, 2022

Evo1883 said:
No top side will employ him after his England stint I'm sure of that

Completely agree. I'll keep Robins thanks.

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Liquid Gold · Dec 4, 2022

TomRad85 said:
I think ultimately he's yet to show that he's capable of putting a plan together to beat the top tier teams. Beat the teams we should be beating generally which is good but I think we're about to find out vs France whether he's learned any lessons.

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I think this is pretty much spot on.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 4, 2022

Deleted member 9744 said:
So why the inconsistency?

G I think dislikes Robins because of previous closeness to the owners, perceived or real. Southgate for me plays in an unnecessarily conservative style given the players at his disposal.

His record against top tier sides generally shows this to be an error

Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

Grendel said:
He i suspect will be gone after this tournament but you are disappointed at a semi final and final makes you yearn for the Cappello years

Bloke had 1 tournament, we were knocked out by a German side on the up that won the WC 4 years later , at a time where our old guard were on its last legs .

Hardly even remotely comparible

Liquid Gold · Dec 4, 2022

Grendel said:
He i suspect will be gone after this tournament but you are disappointed at a semi final and final makes you yearn for the Cappello years

I also have a suspicion he might move aside after this.

Grendel · Dec 4, 2022

Evo1883 said:
No top side will employ him after his England stint I'm sure of that

Alf Ramsey was rubbish afterwards as well

Deleted member 9744 · Dec 4, 2022

Grendel said:
He i suspect will be gone after this tournament but you are disappointed at a semi final and final makes you yearn for the Cappello years

And losing to Iceland

Grendel · Dec 4, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
G I think dislikes Robins because of previous closeness to the owners, perceived or real. Southgate for me plays in an unnecessarily conservative style given the players at his disposal.

His record against top tier sides generally shows this to be an error

I’m sure he will leave after this anyway so who would you pick next?

wingy · Dec 4, 2022

Yeah.

Johnnythespider · Dec 4, 2022

Well what time is kick off Saturday

Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

Grendel said:
Alf Ramsey was rubbish afterwards as well

Ramsey won us the world cup Southgate is adored by some despite having the easiest routes in living memory and still fucking it up 3 times btw in 3 tournaments

His record against top sides is pretty grim

Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

This will end up about 5 , these have had enough

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 4, 2022

Wrong move to play Saka, for sure...

oscillatewildly · Dec 4, 2022

oscillatewildly said:
And now we sit back (Mk 2)

OK, holding both hands up here.

LastGarrison · Dec 4, 2022

You have to say some of our attacking play when we open up is absolutely brilliant.

Grendel · Dec 4, 2022

Evo1883 said:
Bloke had 1 tournament, we were knocked out by a German side on the up that won the WC 4 years later , at a time where our old guard were on its last legs .

Hardly even remotely comparible

Whatever you think of Southgate the players - especially the young ones - like him and work with him

Cappello was aloof and a disaster

His strength is he engages with players and gives them belief and defends them against media nonsense

SIR ERNIE · Dec 4, 2022

Different game since that first goal. Any defensive shape they had has gone. Could be 5 or 6.

Deleted member 9744 · Dec 4, 2022

Evo1883 said:
Ramsey won us the world cup Southgate is adored by some despite having the easiest routes in living memory and still fucking it up 3 times btw in 3 tournaments

His record against top sides is pretty grim

Many England managers have grim records against poor teams.

Evo1883 · Dec 4, 2022

Grendel said:
Whatever you think of Southgate the players - especially the young ones - like him and work with him

Cappello was aloof and a disaster

His strength is he engages with players and gives them belief and defends them against media nonsense

I agree the players like Southgate and play for him ..

Sounds like another manager you know

SBT · Dec 4, 2022

Are we already at the ‘England only win because they get easy draws’ stage of Southgate-rage?

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 4, 2022

Grendel said:
I’m sure he will leave after this anyway so who would you pick next?

I thought you said it was pointless discussing who should replace a manager in post?

Sick Boy · Dec 4, 2022

The Italians have been raving about Bellingham all tournament. I don’t think we’re going to see Maddison get a game.

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