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supportsince1963 · Dec 17, 2012

Due to us having a manager who clearly knows what he is doing has
indirectly put Sisu in a bit of of bother.
After years of lack of investment in the team they will have one hell of
a problem explaining why if they as in the past to other managers , fail to give MR the funds
to ensure the players on loan etc are not secured contractually.
Having the top scorer in the league together with all the other lonees
contributing to our best side for years, the ball literally is in Sisus court.
If they do not, their explaination why they cannot would be interesting to
say the least.
I also think the ground problem will be sorted.

We'll_live_and_die · Dec 17, 2012

They might just turn around and say sorry, we do not have enough fans and income to afford to sign these players on permanent contracts.

Greggs · Dec 17, 2012

There is money, i'm convinced.
Clueless fired, Shaw hired and fired, MR and ST both signed on decent deals. 3 loans signings straight away, with Blair Adams in too.
Only time will tell.

Waldorf · Dec 17, 2012

Likely scenario? Agree a deal with ACL for the rent, above their magical £175k, tell us they can't afford McGoldrick because of that, and blame ACL/Council/Higgs Charity for it.

The truth of the matter? Not replacing one or two loanees, plus the sale of, say, O'Donovan, or McDonald, and another fringe player, together with Seppala having the balls to bet on increased attendances as a result of success, and they could easily afford McGoldrick.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Dec 17, 2012

Put up, shut up....how about LOOK UP Financial Fair Play Rules League 1 2012-13.

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 17, 2012

This is another reason rent is too high...

Grendel · Dec 17, 2012

Waldorf said:
Likely scenario? Agree a deal with ACL for the rent, above their magical £175k, tell us they can't afford McGoldrick because of that, and blame ACL/Council/Higgs Charity for it.

The truth of the matter? Not replacing one or two loanees, plus the sale of, say, O'Donovan, or McDonald, and another fringe player, together with Seppala having the balls to bet on increased attendances as a result of success, and they could easily afford McGoldrick.

All so easy when you say it quickly less so I suspect if it was your money.

WillieStanley · Dec 17, 2012

Daniel Fox Walsall28 January 2008Undisclosed[21]

Scott Dann Walsall1 February 2008Undisclosed[22]

Transfers inPlayerFromDateFee

Sammy Clingan Norwich City24 July 2009£700,000[51]

Michael McIndoe Bristol City4 August 2009£300,000[52]

Martin Cranie Portsmouth13 August 2009£500,000[53]

Chris Hussey AFC Wimbledon1 January 2010Undisclosed[54]

Richard Wood Sheffield Wednesday1 January 2010Undisclosed[54]

Gary Deegan Bohemians4 January 2010€90,000[55]

Carl Baker Stockport County8 January 2010Undisclosed[56

Transfers inPlayerFromDateFee

Gary McSheffrey Birmingham City1 July 2010Free[51]

Stephen O'Halloran Aston Villa1 July 2010Free[52]

Roy O'Donovan Sunderland1 July 2010Free[53]

Richard Keogh Carlisle United1 July 2010Undisclosed[54]

Lee Carsley Birmingham City23 July 2010Free[55]

Lukas Jutkiewicz Everton26 July 2010Undisclosed[56]

Clive Platt Colchester United28 July 2010Nominal[57]

Courtney RichardsRomulus2 September 2010Scholarship[58]

Marlon King Wigan Athletic20 September 2010Free[59]

WillieStanley · Dec 17, 2012

Years of failing to back the manager?

And that's without the loans

skybluehugh · Dec 17, 2012

Waldorf said:
Likely scenario? Agree a deal with ACL for the rent, above their magical £175k, tell us they can't afford McGoldrick because of that, and blame ACL/Council/Higgs Charity for it.

The truth of the matter? Not replacing one or two loanees, plus the sale of, say, O'Donovan, or McDonald, and another fringe player, together with Seppala having the balls to bet on increased attendances as a result of success, and they could easily afford McGoldrick.

Was going to write exact same thing. Losing our top goal scorer will not be the so called owners fault but EVERYONE else including the fans.

shmmeee · Dec 17, 2012

You've only really got a point if McGoldrick signs for another L1 side. I wouldn't want us to break the bank and similarly we have to comply for FFP.

I suspect that McGoldrick will be to blame for McGoldrick not signing.

But those on here will use it as another stick to prop up their argument. Just like previous players enticed by higher leagues and more money.

WillieStanley · Dec 17, 2012

skybluehugh said:
Was going to write exact same thing. Losing our top goal scorer will not be the so called owners fault but EVERYONE else including the fans.

How would it be the fans fault? How could they possibly blame us? What a strange remark!

Fluffsta · Dec 17, 2012

Clive Platt, 1 goal in 17 games so far..

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 17, 2012

Fluffsta said:
Clive Platt, 1 goal in 17 games so far..

Thought we needed him back? :facepalm:

WillieStanley · Dec 17, 2012

What??? Has the world gone mad???!!! Where did that come from?

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 17, 2012

WillieStanley said:
What??? Has the world gone mad???!!! Where did that come from?

To me?

A couple on here suggested we needed Clive Platt back... Much to my disgust, never liked him, awful, he worse was than Kyle.

WillieStanley · Dec 17, 2012

No to Fluffsta... I've seen and heard digressions in my time, but that's just crazy!!

When did people suggest that? Who are they? Am I over tired or... I'll say it again... has the world gone mental?

kg82 · Dec 17, 2012

WillieStanley said:
No to Fluffsta... I've seen and heard digressions in my time, but that's just crazy!!

When did people suggest that? Who are they? Am I over tired or... I'll say it again... has the world gone mental?

Nope, there were definitely people on here in the summer suggesting it was a mistake to have let him go! Got to agree with sbt on this, he was awful!

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 17, 2012

WillieStanley said:
No to Fluffsta... I've seen and heard digressions in my time, but that's just crazy!!

When did people suggest that? Who are they? Am I over tired or... I'll say it again... has the world gone mental?

It was when we was on a rotten run, can't remember exactly who, but I remember thinking :facepalm: they said we need someone to hold the ball up and Platt was the man, and pointed to his performances at N'hampton (v Cardiff but not the league).

skybluehugh · Dec 17, 2012

WillieStanley said:
How would it be the fans fault? How could they possibly blame us? What a strange remark!

The fans wanted us to pay the rent, we don't have enough fans coming to games. It will always be some one but them

Grendel · Dec 17, 2012

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
It was when we was on a rotten run, can't remember exactly who, but I remember thinking :facepalm: they said we need someone to hold the ball up and Platt was the man, and pointed to his performances at N'hampton (v Cardiff but not the league).

Ginette is a big fan.

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 17, 2012

Grendel said:
Ginette is a big fan.

Who's that? A poster on SBT or just some randomer?

SkyblueBazza · Dec 17, 2012

shmmeee said:
You've only really got a point if McGoldrick signs for another L1 side. I wouldn't want us to break the bank and similarly we have to comply for FFP.

I suspect that McGoldrick will be to blame for McGoldrick not signing.

But those on here will use it as another stick to prop up their argument. Just like previous players enticed by higher leagues and more money.

You never know...he may have the balls to stand up to his agent & not actually follow the money.

Grendel · Dec 17, 2012

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Who's that? A poster on SBT or just some randomer?

Look at the Thread Clive Platt started 3 October -- pure comedy gold.

cloughie · Dec 17, 2012

SkyblueBazza said:
You never know...he may have the balls to stand up to his agent & not actually follow the money.

Hopefully, but it would probably be a first

lordsummerisle · Dec 17, 2012

Grendel said:
Look at the Thread Clive Platt started 3 October -- pure comedy gold.

He's comedy gold in every thread he contributes too.

lordsummerisle · Dec 17, 2012

Are Ginetta and NLHWC the same person? Both hold the same views, from Leamington, and missing in action at the same time?

Ginetta always had a lot of other names on GMK too so he would have somebody to agree with him.

dongonzalos · Dec 17, 2012

lordsummerisle said:
Are Ginetta and NLHWC the same person? Both hold the same views, from Leamington, and missing in action at the same time?

Ginetta always had a lot of other names on GMK too so he would have somebody to agree with him.

Don't know about ginetta, that certainly seems to happen on here though

wingy · Dec 17, 2012

Luckily apart from the raging Schitzophrenia I'm relatively confident I'm unique.

Yeah right!!!:thinking about::facepalm:

Grendel · Dec 17, 2012

lordsummerisle said:
Are Ginetta and NLHWC the same person? Both hold the same views, from Leamington, and missing in action at the same time?

Ginetta always had a lot of other names on GMK too so he would have somebody to agree with him.

I assume Non League has to change his name when Thorn got the elbow as keeping him was the only way of making that happen

dongonzalos · Dec 17, 2012

Again I would reply but apparently I can't leave it alone

Warwickhunt · Dec 18, 2012

Rich said:
They might just turn around and say sorry, we do not have enough fans and income to afford to sign these players on permanent contracts.

i have a horrible feeling that they will sell Christie to a top championship or a premier club as a sacrifice for the cash flow

georgehudson · Dec 18, 2012

we know, and knew, the owners 'does what it says on the tin',
it's such a shame that their abysmal lack of footballing knowledge has placed us in the current predicament,
with a modicum of common sense they could have seen us top of the league,
the stadium bartering could have been a secondary matter,
crowds would be flocking to the ground,
the current circumstance is dire,
not on the pitch though,
if re-structuring means weeding out poor expense then i don't think we have to look too far for the freeloaders,
time to get rid of those who are about as much use as.............................

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