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Publicity inbalence (7 Viewers)

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  • Start date Oct 20, 2013
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stupot07

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #36
dongonzalos said:
Chapter 2 Rival fans sneaking on their retro Cov Tops monitoring the Evening Telegraph then sabotaging polls at will. As they know there is no better way to annoy a Cov fan than a poll that suggests SISU should not be allowed to buy the Ricoh. (Good read that one)

Chapter 4 Andy Thorn turning up to training sessions drunk, top conspiracy that one.

Chapter 5 Kieran Westwood asking for contract talks but not really ever intending to sign.

Chapter 6 Selling your top goal scorer whilst facing a relegation battle at Christmas was in fact an attempt to support the manager.
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Chapter 7 sisu putting a bid into buy ltd out of admin and threatening to temporary relocate as a move to make PH4 increase his offer so they make a profit


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dongonzalos

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #37
stupot07 said:
Talk about over exaggeration. You suggested that the poll was conclusive evidence of what cov fans think, I suggested that rival fans and non cov fan Coventry residents could've accessed the post, plus a number of posters on here have admitted to voting multiple times.



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I will give you the multiple voting one.
I imagine for both the yes and no camps.

Rival fans = no

Non football fans = very few would read an article that long about Coventry City then vote at the bottom.

It will be mainly Cov fans who voted.

Les headed it with a very leading article along the same lines as the last one.

The Poll that he allowed to be put on his article has now been discredited by him since it went against his viewpoint.
 
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Astute

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #38
Grendel said:
Scuppering what - playing in Northampton for 5 years -sounds like you astute etc. want that more than the useless eyesore in Holbrooks having a football team play there.
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You are such a sad old man.

Why not come out with a decent argument for once instead of cheap digs at people that has no truth? I suppose I want us to stay in Northampton to have a reason not to go to games? You have let us know that you pay more tax than what the average wage is. I would have thought you would want public money being looked after if this is the case and not letting the ground be sold for less than is still owed on it. After all the only offer on the table is said to be this low.
 

edgy

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #39
Jack Griffin said:
No he bloody doesn't, all of his tweets support his viewpoint.
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I think he's probably shown you up on Twitter & you've took it to heart. He is impartial, but as ever you'll only read it to suit your agenda.

Recent example:"@Lesreidpolitics: @The_Coventry @jockdmj @Westtender 2/2 ..& I think Sisu's been terrible for CCFC. I want @RicohArena return & think campaigning too 1-sided"
 
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_brian_

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #40
edgy said:
I think he's probably shown you up on Twitter & you've took it to heart. He is impartial, but as ever you'll only read it to suit your agenda.

Recent example:"@Lesreidpolitics: @The_Coventry @jockdmj @Westtender 2/2 ..& I think Sisu's been terrible for CCFC. I want @RicohArena return & think campaigning too 1-sided"
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Are you his mum or something?!?! LOL!!! Only joking, mate!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #41
Ah you say you're joking, but you may be closer to the truth than you think:thinking about:
 
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_brian_

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #42
Deleted member 5849 said:
Ah you say you're joking, but you may be closer to the truth than you think:thinking about:
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Les Reid is Edgy's mum?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #43
dongonzalos said:
I will give you the multiple voting one.
I imagine for both the yes and no camps.

Rival fans = no

Non football fans = very few would read an article that long about Coventry City then vote at the bottom.

It will be mainly Cov fans who voted.

Les headed it with a very leading article along the same lines as the last one.

The Poll that he allowed to be put on his article has now been discredited by him since it went against his viewpoint.
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But we're talking about the Ricoh, "a community asset paid for by tax payers, who's be outraged if they sold the Ricoh to ccfc on the cheap" (to quote the anti-sisu fans). Are you sure they wouldn't be interested in an article about the potential future of such a prized asset even if they didn't support ccfc?


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bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #44
stupot07 said:
But we're talking about the Ricoh, "a community asset paid for by tax payers, who's be outraged if they sold the Ricoh to ccfc on the cheap" (to quote the anti-sisu fans). Are you sure they wouldn't be interested in an article about the potential future of such a prized asset even if they didn't support ccfc?


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That being the case, shouldn't their opinions be listened to?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #45
stupot07 said:
But we're talking about the Ricoh, "a community asset paid for by tax payers, who's be outraged if they sold the Ricoh to ccfc on the cheap" (to quote the anti-sisu fans). Are you sure they wouldn't be interested in an article about the potential future of such a prized asset even if they didn't support ccfc?


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Yes their opinions count however anyone I know who is not a Coventry fan does not seem that interested in the Ricoh.

They say it us a shame and it is stupid.

However they do not actively go reading about it.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #46
bigfatronssba said:
That being the case, shouldn't their opinions be listened to?
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Of course they should, dons saying that only cov fans voted because they're not interested in the club or the Ricoh.


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dongonzalos

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #47
stupot07 said:
Of course they should, dons saying that only cov fans voted because they're not interested in the club or the Ricoh.


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I am saying the MAJORITY of people voting in that poll will be Coventry fans
Not as you have suggested rival fans or non Coventry fans
 
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AndreasB

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #48
I think the 50 odd people standing on the hill have had quite a bit of publicity out of ratio with their influence wouldnt you say?

Oh and John Fletcher on the radio trying to be impartial but then peddling the Council line fed to him by Old mate Lucas seemed to show EXACTLY where the Trust are - ie a continuation of a naive SISU OUT stance - despite Linnell having the cheek to ask him to be some sort of lead mediator!
 

GaryPendrysEyes

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #49
You would have thought Les Reid would have some ambition to get on with his career by covering big and broad political stories. But he seems incapable of getting above the level of football forum/student politics nonsense [that a lot of us are guilty of- but we arent aspiring journalists].

Now there seems in my view to be some sort of student politics kind of game with this new campaign, trying to pull the wool with the Trust/KCIC that it is some kind of new unified group- when everyone knows it is just about pressuring the council to sell the Ricoh to Sisu.

Move on Mr.Reid.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #50
dongonzalos said:
Yes their opinions count however anyone I know who is not a Coventry fan does not seem that interested in the Ricoh.

They say it us a shame and it is stupid.

However they do not actively go reading about it.
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I agree 90% of the public have no interest whatsoever in the stadium - the notion its a community asset is a joke.

Its just odd that 70% of Coventry fans want the club at Sixfields for 5 years
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #51
if les reid helps rid ccfc of the council and get ricoh we should build a statue of him next to jimmy hill.
 
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Steve.B50

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #52
AndreasB said:
I think the 50 odd people standing on the hill have had quite a bit of publicity out of ratio with their influence wouldnt you say?

Oh and John Fletcher on the radio trying to be impartial but then peddling the Council line fed to him by Old mate Lucas seemed to show EXACTLY where the Trust are - ie a continuation of a naive SISU OUT stance - despite Linnell having the cheek to ask him to be some sort of lead mediator!
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Am sure that John would not be the best person to be a mediator but if asked such a question he had no choice but to actually say yes.
 
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Steve.B50

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #53
covcity4life said:
if les reid helps rid ccfc of the council and get ricoh we should build a statue of him next to jimmy hill.
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That's a silly comment.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #54
Grendel said:
I agree 90% of the public have no interest whatsoever in the stadium - the notion its a community asset is a joke.

Its just odd that 70% of Coventry fans want the club at Sixfields for 5 years
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I guess it comes back to a moral decision again.

SISU refuse to pay rent, attempt to distress a charity. They then annoy every fan they can possibly upset with the Northampton move. Added with the spin that they have no choice.

Do you as a fan take all that up your Jacksi and say give the Ricoh they have bullied us and abused the fans. However if it gets Cov back now then do it. Who cares what they do.

Stand up to them with the hope their plans are folly and eventually they will sell up.

Or protest and hope they choose a different route.

However I also think people are concerned about what will be SISU's future plans.
If you base it on what they have done so far the council are going to struggle to justify selling to them.

Also you can bet your bottom dollar if they do sell on the cheap to SISU. Those who are currently not that interested will suddenly be outraged.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #55
covcity4life said:
if les reid helps rid ccfc of the council and get ricoh we should build a statue of him next to jimmy hill.
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Yes, lets build a statue to someone who wants ccfc renting their stadium off a hedge fund for the next 100 years.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #56
bigfatronssba said:
Yes, lets build a statue to someone who wants ccfc renting their stadium off a hedge fund for the next 100 years.
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No different to paying over the odds to a greedy filthy council is it?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #57
Grendel said:
No different to paying over the odds to a greedy filthy council is it?
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Is anyone suggesting building a statue in honour of them?
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #58
dongonzalos said:
I am saying the MAJORITY of people voting in that poll will be Coventry fans
Not as you have suggested rival fans or non Coventry fans
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I never said the MAJORITY were rival fans or non cov fan Coventry residents.


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stupot07

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #59
dongonzalos said:
SISU refuse to pay rent, attempt to distress a charity.
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ACL is not a charity.


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Astute

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #60
stupot07 said:
ACL is not a charity.


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So what is ACL made up from?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #61
stupot07 said:
ACL is not a charity.


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Well my point was the majority of cov fans who voted in the poll disagreed with Les.

You pointed out that that may not be the case as the votes could have been made up from non football fans and rival fans.
 

torchomatic

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #62
I don't know why you keep banging on about a "majority". A majority of a small number who bothered to vote on a easily manipulated poll. At least you admitted in a previous post (in reply to Stupot) that non-CCFC fans aren't particularly bothered. I think we can blow the "community asset" myth out of the water.

dongonzalos said:
Well my point was the majority of cov fans who voted in the poll disagreed with Les.

You pointed out that that may not be the case as the votes could have been made up from non football fans and rival fans.
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lewys33

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #63
Grendel said:
No different to paying over the odds to a greedy filthy council is it?
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WOW ............ greedy and filthy??

torchomatic said:
I don't know why you keep banging on about a "majority". A majority of a small number who bothered to vote on a easily manipulated poll. At least you admitted in a previous post (in reply to Stupot) that non-CCFC fans aren't particularly bothered. I think we can blow the "community asset" myth out of the water.
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I don't understand why people are against this "community asset" thing? To me it seems like another possible way for us to get CCFC back to the Ricoh.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #64
It's used as emotional blackmail along with the "charity" aspect. Chances are, most people couldn't give a fig about CCFC or the Ricoh. They want low council tax, regular bin collections, care homes, youth centres and libraries to remain open.

lewys33 said:
WOW ............ greedy and filthy??

I don't understand why people are against this "community asset" thing? To me it seems like another possible way for us to get CCFC back to the Ricoh.
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lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #65
torchomatic said:
It's used as emotional blackmail along with the "charity" aspect. Chances are, most people couldn't give a fig about CCFC or the Ricoh. They want low council tax, regular bin collections, care homes, youth centres and libraries to remain open.
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Can't honestly say I have read through the whole thread to argue with that 1, but I would have thought people would be supporting the community asset thing!
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #66
Maybe so. But I would bet most people care about the things that affect them EVERY day such as those things I mentioned. When money is tight as it is now people don't mind cuts to services as long as it doesn't affect them personally.

The area I work in has been savaged and volunteers do jobs that we used to do and a lot of staff were eased out in a "restructure". Although the staff are outraged the users of our service couldn't care less as they don't know who is a paid member of staff and who is a volunteer. Makes no difference to them. But a bit more money is shaved off the Council budget.

I think people care about everyday things not football stadiums they may never go to.

lewys33 said:
Can't honestly say I have read through the whole thread to argue with that 1, but I would have thought people would be supporting the community asset thing!
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RPHunt

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #67
torchomatic said:
I think people care about everyday things not football stadiums they may never go to.
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You're wrong - some people care about private investment funds and believe they are entitled to a return on their investment regardless of what it might cost the community. The spirit of the ragged trousered philanthropist still lives on.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #68
Apologies. I didn't realise someone knew the opinion of every one of Coventry's council tax payers.

RPHunt said:
You're wrong - some people care about private investment funds and believe they are entitled to a return on their investment. The spirit of the ragged trousered philanthropist still lives on.
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stupot07

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #69
Astute said:
So what is ACL made up from?
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It's not a charity, it's a commercial private limited company. And the Higgs contribute nothing to the running costs and take nothing out. So how were sisu trying to distress a charity?


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torchomatic

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  • Oct 21, 2013
  • #70
he obviously doesn't remember the words of my old signature!

stupot07 said:
It's not a charity, it's a commercial private limited company. And the Higgs contribute nothing to the running costs and take nothing out. So how were sisu trying to distress a charity?


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