As of last night
job retention scheme
435000 employees made a claim
3,203,000 furloughed through the scheme
Total claimed £3.75bn
Because of excellent communication and clear website calls and web chats much lower than anticipated
feeling so proud right now
Good, and well done HMRC. Our civil service gets criticised a lot rather unfairly, we've got some of the most advanced online systems in the world for all sorts of public services.
Good, and well done HMRC. Our civil service gets criticised a lot rather unfairly, we've got some of the most advanced online systems in the world for all sorts of public services.
Well done. Above and beyond belief this has been successfully carried out in such a short time.As of last night
job retention scheme
435000 employees made a claim
3,203,000 furloughed through the scheme
Total claimed £3.75bn
Because of excellent communication and clear website calls and web chats much lower than anticipated
feeling so proud right now
Like with everything (inc the private sector) there’s good and bad elements of the civil service.
For all the stick Hancock has got/is getting (a majority of it fair/correct), there will be senior civil servants that will no doubt be just as much to blame for the PPE and testing situations we found ourselves in.
I did a bit of digging the other day....I think PHE has got around 250 people on six figure salaries. In addition there is an annual budget of £87m for a infectious disease surveillance and control (managing outbreaks) which employs around 2100 staff. That’s a lot of people on an average salary of £41k per annum
My view in life is if people are found to have been not performing they should go, Hancock might have to after all this, however, if a review indicates poor performance elsewhere I’d hope that others go as well.
The frontline workers in the public sector nearly always deliver (whether that be nurses, doctors, binmen, Hmrc call centre workers etc etc), I do however think there can be question marks over many middle/senior management who just aren’t up to it, hence the external consultants who end up being brought in, costing a fortune (which is crazy !)
Ps sorry to interrupt the thread Pete, as I say, great news and well done !
2ASecretary of State’s duty as to protection of public health
(1)The Secretary of State must take such steps as the Secretary of State considers appropriate for the purpose of protecting the public in England from disease or other dangers to health.
(2)The steps that may be taken under subsection (1) include—
(a)the conduct of research or such other steps as the Secretary of State considers appropriate for advancing knowledge and understanding;
(b)providing microbiological or other technical services (whether in laboratories or otherwise);
(c)providing vaccination, immunisation or screening services;
(d)providing other services or facilities for the prevention, diagnosis or treatment of illness;
(e)providing training;
(f)providing information and advice;
(g)making available the services of any person or any facilities.
(3)Subsection (4) applies in relation to any function under this section which relates to—
(a)the protection of the public from ionising or non-ionising radiation, and
(b)a matter in respect of which the Health and Safety Executive has a function.
(4)In exercising the function, the Secretary of State must—
(a)consult the Health and Safety Executive, and
(b)have regard to its policies.”
Not saying it’s not their problem (and ultimately it will be the minister taking the flack) just that there’s a lot of highly paid people and from the initial problems it suggests some probably weren’t probably doing a very good job...Hancock included !Again though Steve, this is by design of the Tory government, the SoS is responsible for the way PHE operates:
As of last night
job retention scheme
435000 employees made a claim
3,203,000 furloughed through the scheme
Total claimed £3.75bn
Because of excellent communication and clear website calls and web chats much lower than anticipated
feeling so proud right now
Lots of close colleagues working on the back end of it and taking calls and web chats and checking identities etc. Thanks guys. As a department we also invested in surface pros for every employee meaning this move has been seamless for many of us. Whoever made that call needs promotingPete is a tax man so is like a hidden away traffic warden
It is amazing how a system was put in place so quickly though, infrastructure, staff etc. Fair play
Lots of close colleagues working on the back end of it and taking calls and web chats and checking identities etc. Thanks guys. As a department we also invested in surface pros for every employee meaning this move has been seem less for many of us. Whoever made that call needs promoting
If people want to put blame on PHE then they need to consider that they flagged a pandemic as likely to occur and a severe risk to the UK years ago. They planned an exercise, code named Cygnus, to test the countries readiness for such an outbreak which was supposed to take place in 2014 but was delayed for 2 years by Whitehall.Again though Steve, this is by design of the Tory government, the SoS is responsible for the way PHE operates:
Tell them to check gov.uk site I am very confident that the self employed aspect is much clearer and easier to work outQuick enough to take it off us, but in the hour of need they've stepped up. Fair play to you and your colleagues Pete, no doubt it's been stressful.
Fingers crossed the help for the self-employed goes smoothly, some family members doing the right thing, not phoning up as instructed...but getting twitchy the system fails and they won't be contacted when the time comes to make a claim.
Quick enough to take it off us, but in the hour of need they've stepped up. Fair play to you and your colleagues Pete, no doubt it's been stressful.
Fingers crossed the help for the self-employed goes smoothly, some family members doing the right thing, not phoning up as instructed...but getting twitchy the system fails and they won't be contacted when the time comes to make a claim.
Fair play, I made a claim on Monday and looking at my online banking this morning I have a pending payment from HMRC due in my account on Monday. Fantastic service and so simple to use. It must have been some effort to get it all set up and processed as quickly as this.
If people want to put blame on PHE then they need to consider that they flagged a pandemic as likely to occur and a severe risk to the UK years ago. They planned an exercise, code named Cygnus, to test the countries readiness for such an outbreak which was supposed to take place in 2014 but was delayed for 2 years by Whitehall.
When it did eventually take place in 2016 it highlighted, among other things, lack of ICU capacity, lack of ventilators and other vital equipment and lack of mortuary space. All the findings of the exercise were ignored by the government with no action being taken to remedy any of the issues found.
Thats really good to hear. It makes you wonder why Universal Credit can’t be as simple... (maybe that’s for another day but the point stands)
Like with everything (inc the private sector) there’s good and bad elements of the civil service.
For all the stick Hancock has got/is getting (a majority of it fair/correct), there will be senior civil servants that will no doubt be just as much to blame for the PPE and testing situations we found ourselves in.
I did a bit of digging the other day....I think PHE has got around 250 people on six figure salaries. In addition there is an annual budget of £87m for a infectious disease surveillance and control (managing outbreaks) which employs around 2100 staff. That’s a lot of people on an average salary of £41k per annum
My view in life is if people are found to have been not performing they should go, Hancock might have to after all this, however, if a review indicates poor performance elsewhere I’d hope that others go as well.
The frontline workers in the public sector nearly always deliver (whether that be nurses, doctors, binmen, Hmrc call centre workers etc etc), I do however think there can be question marks over many middle/senior management who just aren’t up to it, hence the external consultants who end up being brought in, costing a fortune (which is crazy !)
Ps sorry to interrupt the thread Pete, as I say, great news and well done !
That seems high, what's the background there? People giving incorrect information or is there genuinely 2.5 million people who aren't going to get anything?Estimated 3.5million eligible, 2.5million not eligible.
Might be gig workers, sole traders as LTD companies?That seems high, what's the background there? People giving incorrect information or is there genuinely 2.5 million people who aren't going to get anything?
That seems high, what's the background there? People giving incorrect information or is there genuinely 2.5 million people who aren't going to get anything?
Sounds like an estimate to me. Will include those that haven’t submitted a return before of course, those whose profits are too high or too low and then I’m struggling if I’m honest. We are anticipating some confusion and frustration around eligibilityThat seems high, what's the background there? People giving incorrect information or is there genuinely 2.5 million people who aren't going to get anything?
People who haven't filed a tax return not eligible but how many people have only gone self employed in the last 12 months? Can't be that many surely?
sole traders as LTD companies
My wife started her business in April 2019 and is not eligible for any help.
It is unfortunate and I think there should be help for your wife and friends of mine who’ve only just startedThat's harsh. Unfortunately there will be people who miss out.
It is unfortunate and I think there should be help for your wife and friends of mine who’ve only just started
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