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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 19, 2022
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Anyone got any recommendations?!? They all appear to be busy...
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #2
Domestic?
 

Nick

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  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #3
Is it just a standard one or structure etc?
 

Nick

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  • Aug 19, 2022
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I used these - harbornebuilding - However it was more for structural rather than a standard survey.

Got a fairly decent report and picked up on things that the Mortgage people didn't.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 19, 2022
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fernandopartridge said:
Domestic?
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Definitely domestic.

Nick said:
Is it just a standard one or structure etc?
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Full building survey - I want to be sure the roof won't fall down

(As an aside all my mortgage people have done is said that they're OK with the price intending to pay!)
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 19, 2022
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Ah yeah, that one I linked to. I never met the bloke as he went and did it when I was at work but it was definitely detailed.
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 19, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Full building survey - I want to be sure the roof won't fall down
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I paid for a full building survey and it was a complete waste of money. Got a massively detailed report but they missed everything and from literally the day I moved in there was issues, including the entire roof needing to be replaced.
 
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SAJ

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  • Aug 19, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Anyone got any recommendations?!? They all appear to be busy...
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I’ve used David Smith Associates from Northampton several times. Not the cheapest but good.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Aug 19, 2022
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chiefdave said:
I paid for a full building survey and it was a complete waste of money. Got a massively detailed report but they missed everything and from literally the day I moved in there was issues, including the entire roof needing to be replaced.
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THIS. Get a builder to have a look instead....especially as your bank are already satisfied
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Aug 29, 2022
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It's a classic (and expensive) case of the emperors new clothes.
Go online for tips but beyond that as somebody has recommended - Get a builder or at least a roofer to explore the bits you can't.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Well we've pulled out, I nervously await the shouty phone call from the seller.

Not because of the interest rates (they'll be an issue going forward, no doubt!) but because the survey brought up a load of potential issues... and no way of finding a compromise.

So, I'd probably consider that eight hundred quid well spent, all-in-all.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Well we've pulled out, I nervously await the shouty phone call from the seller.

Not because of the interest rates (they'll be an issue going forward, no doubt!) but because the survey brought up a load of potential issues... and no way of finding a compromise.

So, I'd probably consider that eight hundred quid well spent, all-in-all.
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This is often the case in the market that existed a week ago.
The seller and the estate agency generally wont take it on board cos they know there's a desperate mug out there who'll wear it to get on the market.
My daughter did just that having had a full survey then having a brain fart.
Well done mate so wise.
And you never know with the current mood music if they really want to move on now,they'll resurrect things.
Edit :- Ooh and they'll expect to pocket the stamp duty bonus as it will get priced in soon enough.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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wingy said:
This is often the case in the market that existed a week ago.
The seller and the estate agency generally wont take it on board cos they know there's a desperate mug out there who'll wear it to get on the market.
My daughter did just that having had a full survey then having a brain fart.
Well done mate so wise.
And you never know with the current mood music if they really want to move on now,they'll resurrect things.
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Tbh the lack of compromise means we won't go back now, and Mrs Wisdom has cancelled the conveyancers anyway I am holding off cancelling the mortgage just in case they have a change of heart, but it'd have to be a big one and I can't see it. Maybe if they haven't sold in six months...

Complicated as I kind of know the seller, which makes it so much harder to have the conversations than with an estate agent, as we dealt direct - hence the worry I'll be shouted at imminently! Maybe, of course, an estate agent would have advised them to find a compromise. List of things as long as your arm, and some I can accept from an old house, but some of them are potentially too serious to just live with, and the very least I expected was to be allowed some specialists in to confirm or deny if there was indeed a problem. Pointless even fighting to do that if there'd be no movement on the price even if they found issues, however.

Have to say, he was very good. Gave a very detailed report, and then gave us a four hour chat to go through it, be reassuring on some issues, gave rough estimates on costs etc. Ridiculous system though innit. In Scotland, it's the responsibility of the seller to get a survey, and offer any potential buyer the chance to read it. That'd save so much hassle (and cost!) surely?
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Well we've pulled out, I nervously await the shouty phone call from the seller.

Not because of the interest rates (they'll be an issue going forward, no doubt!) but because the survey brought up a load of potential issues... and no way of finding a compromise.

So, I'd probably consider that eight hundred quid well spent, all-in-all.
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Were the sellers not interested in trying to fix any of the issues or adjust the price?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Nick said:
Were the sellers not interested in trying to fix any of the issues or adjust the price?
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Nope.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Tbh the lack of compromise means we won't go back now, and Mrs Wisdom has cancelled the conveyancers anyway I am holding off cancelling the mortgage just in case they have a change of heart, but it'd have to be a big one and I can't see it. Maybe if they haven't sold in six months...

Complicated as I kind of know the seller, which makes it so much harder to have the conversations than with an estate agent, as we dealt direct - hence the worry I'll be shouted at imminently! Maybe, of course, an estate agent would have advised them to find a compromise. List of things as long as your arm, and some I can accept from an old house, but some of them are potentially too serious to just live with, and the very least I expected was to be allowed some specialists in to confirm or deny if there was indeed a problem. Pointless even fighting to do that if there'd be no movement on the price even if they found issues, however.

Have to say, he was very good. Gave a very detailed report, and then gave us a four hour chat to go through it, be reassuring on some issues, gave rough estimates on costs etc. Ridiculous system though innit. In Scotland, it's the responsibility of the seller to get a survey, and offer any potential buyer the chance to read it. That'd save so much hassle (and cost!) surely?
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Yeah they cost but are generally truly professional.
It was a career direction I always wanted to go down a but ended up going down a similar but different discipline.
Being familiar with who you're buying from, yes, that would absolutely complicate things.
However the projected future may offer them a solution if they can achieve a market driven haircut on their purchase.
 
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SAJ

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  • Oct 3, 2022
  • #17
Deleted member 5849 said:
Nope.
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If they weren’t prepared to adjust the price or do some of the work then it proved worth while employing the surveyor. Better to have spent £800 now rather than find you’ve bought a money put in a few months time.
 

Nick

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Nope.
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Knobs, it's in their interests though because no doubt they will keep the issues quiet and the next person gets a survey then they pull out too.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Nick said:
Knobs, it's in their interests though because no doubt they will keep the issues quiet and the next person gets a survey then they pull out too.
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That's what's so good from Scotlands system apart from offers in the region of usually leading to substantial topping up.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Nick said:
Knobs, it's in their interests though because no doubt they will keep the issues quiet and the next person gets a survey then they pull out too.
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I always wondered if the surveyor went through the motions if they happened to be commissioned by the next seller, or if they just copied and pasted!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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wingy said:
It was a career direction I always wanted to go down a but ended up going down a similar but different discipline.
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I'd have hired you
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Tbh the lack of compromise means we won't go back now, and Mrs Wisdom has cancelled the conveyancers anyway I am holding off cancelling the mortgage just in case they have a change of heart, but it'd have to be a big one and I can't see it. Maybe if they haven't sold in six months...

Complicated as I kind of know the seller, which makes it so much harder to have the conversations than with an estate agent, as we dealt direct - hence the worry I'll be shouted at imminently! Maybe, of course, an estate agent would have advised them to find a compromise. List of things as long as your arm, and some I can accept from an old house, but some of them are potentially too serious to just live with, and the very least I expected was to be allowed some specialists in to confirm or deny if there was indeed a problem. Pointless even fighting to do that if there'd be no movement on the price even if they found issues, however.

Have to say, he was very good. Gave a very detailed report, and then gave us a four hour chat to go through it, be reassuring on some issues, gave rough estimates on costs etc. Ridiculous system though innit. In Scotland, it's the responsibility of the seller to get a survey, and offer any potential buyer the chance to read it. That'd save so much hassle (and cost!) surely?
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I think the seller in Scotland has to get a Home Report not the same
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Grendel said:
I think the seller in Scotland has to get a Home Report not the same
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It's split into three parts – a single survey and valuation, a property questionnaire and an energy report.

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This section, based on a visual inspection by a chartered surveyor, tells you about the home, its condition, its accessibility and any repairs you may need to carry out.

It also gives a valuation (an opinion on how much the home is worth).

If any of the repairs are marked as urgent or needing future attention, you should consider whether you can cope with the cost or inconvenience of the repair works.

If you feel you can cope with the repairs, you should get estimates for how much they'll cost before proceeding. If you don't think you can cope with the repairs and don't want to buy the home any more you can walk away at this stage without penalty.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 3, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
It's split into three parts – a single survey and valuation, a property questionnaire and an energy report.

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This section, based on a visual inspection by a chartered surveyor, tells you about the home, its condition, its accessibility and any repairs you may need to carry out.

It also gives a valuation (an opinion on how much the home is worth).

If any of the repairs are marked as urgent or needing future attention, you should consider whether you can cope with the cost or inconvenience of the repair works.

If you feel you can cope with the repairs, you should get estimates for how much they'll cost before proceeding. If you don't think you can cope with the repairs and don't want to buy the home any more you can walk away at this stage without penalty.
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Its a lesser survey though - also to be honest I think the Scottish system generally is a bit of a nightmare if you are the buyer - perhaps that’s how it should be but it’s more difficult from what I see
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Grendel said:
Its a lesser survey though - also to be honest I think the Scottish system generally is a bit of a nightmare if you are the buyer - perhaps that’s how it should be but it’s more difficult from what I see
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It's a survey. Brother in Law is selling in Scotland atm, and is far better than our system. Of course it's not perfect (wingy mentioned how offers over can end up a minefield), but it's still better than our's.
 
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SkyBlueMaj

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  • Nov 9, 2022
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Hi all, I'm looking for solicitors for selling my house and buying another. Can anyone recommend local (Coventry area) solicitors that are reliable, quick and reasonably priced please? Any help and recommendations are very much appreciated.
 

duffer

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  • Nov 9, 2022
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chiefdave said:
I paid for a full building survey and it was a complete waste of money. Got a massively detailed report but they missed everything and from literally the day I moved in there was issues, including the entire roof needing to be replaced.
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Possibly a bit late for you now, CD, but did you consider legal action against them? Surely that's malpractice.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Nov 9, 2022
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SkyBlueMaj said:
Hi all, I'm looking for solicitors for selling my house and buying another. Can anyone recommend local (Coventry area) solicitors that are reliable, quick and reasonably priced please? Any help and recommendations are very much appreciated.
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I don’t think they’ll be the cheapest but I had a great experience when buying mine with Band Hatton Button:

Band Hatton Button - Award Winning Coventry Solicitors

Band Hatton Button, award winning Coventry solicitors, work with private, individual clients and businesses across Warwickshire and The U.K.
www.bandhattonbutton.com
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 9, 2022
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duffer said:
Possibly a bit late for you now, CD, but did you consider legal action against them? Surely that's malpractice.
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I spoke to my solicitor about it but she said surveyors but so many get outs in the small print you've got no chance. Same with the sellers, they can sell knowing there's all sorts of issues but unless you've directly asked them a question and they've lied you're stuck. Even then the chances of getting anywhere seemed pretty slim.
 
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SkyBlueMaj

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  • Nov 10, 2022
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LastGarrison said:
I don’t think they’ll be the cheapest but I had a great experience when buying mine with Band Hatton Button:

Band Hatton Button - Award Winning Coventry Solicitors

Band Hatton Button, award winning Coventry solicitors, work with private, individual clients and businesses across Warwickshire and The U.K.
www.bandhattonbutton.com
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Many thanks, I'll give them a call later today along with one other I remember using over 10 years ago (called Sketchley Solicitors). Bairstow Eves quoted around £3.5k so just seeing if that is reasonable or not.
 
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napolimp

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  • Nov 10, 2022
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SkyBlueMaj said:
Hi all, I'm looking for solicitors for selling my house and buying another. Can anyone recommend local (Coventry area) solicitors that are reliable, quick and reasonably priced please? Any help and recommendations are very much appreciated.
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Try LDJ in Nuneaton if you want a good price.
 

duffer

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  • Nov 10, 2022
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chiefdave said:
I spoke to my solicitor about it but she said surveyors but so many get outs in the small print you've got no chance. Same with the sellers, they can sell knowing there's all sorts of issues but unless you've directly asked them a question and they've lied you're stuck. Even then the chances of getting anywhere seemed pretty slim.
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Sorry to hear it mate. Makes you wonder what the point is...
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 10, 2022
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duffer said:
Sorry to hear it mate. Makes you wonder what the point is...
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spoken to a lot of people who had the same issue as me so it seem far from a one off.
 
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