Promotion - The Down side (1 Viewer)

GaryJones · Jan 23, 2020

Just speaking to a friend of mine who lives near and supports Luton Town. He was surprisingly downcast - "we keeping losing week in week out and its depressing" - "I wish we were back in League One as every game was enjoyable, beating teams and living life at the top end all season"
If we went up would we end up living life at the bottom of The Championship?
If we did how would we feel I wonder?
Personally I would love to see us challenge higher quality teams in The Championship but I must admit that I might miss playing teams off the park with free flowing football in League One.
My mate ending up saying "Be careful what you wish for!"
I put the phone down and thought............................miserable fucker!

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Jan 23, 2020

I understand why winning every week is more appealing, but I don't want to be winning in League One for the rest of my life, I want to see us go up and whilst the first year or two might be a struggle, I'd like to see us eventually cement our place as a steady Championship team. There is no better time to do that then now.

SkyBlueDom26 · Jan 23, 2020

GaryJones said:
Just speaking to a friend of mine who lives near and supports Luton Town. He was surprisingly downcast - "we keeping losing week in week out and its depressing" - "I wish we were back in League One as every game was enjoyable, beating teams and living life at the top end all season"
If we went up would we end up living life at the bottom of The Championship?
If we did how would we feel I wonder?
Personally I would love to see us challenge higher quality teams in The Championship but I must admit that I might miss playing teams off the park with free flowing football in League One.
My mate ending up saying "Be careful what you wish for!"
I put the phone down and thought............................miserable fucker!

There is no down side to being promoted Borat

Magwitch · Jan 23, 2020

I seem to remember similar things being said when we came out of League 2, not done that bad have we.

Briles · Jan 23, 2020

GaryJones said:
Just speaking to a friend of mine who lives near and supports Luton Town. He was surprisingly downcast - "we keeping losing week in week out and its depressing" - "I wish we were back in League One as every game was enjoyable, beating teams and living life at the top end all season"
If we went up would we end up living life at the bottom of The Championship?
If we did how would we feel I wonder?
Personally I would love to see us challenge higher quality teams in The Championship but I must admit that I might miss playing teams off the park with free flowing football in League One.
My mate ending up saying "Be careful what you wish for!"
I put the phone down and thought............................miserable fucker!

I'd rather be a small fish in a big pond than a big fish in a small pond

87mint · Jan 23, 2020

I actually don't like fish

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jan 23, 2020

Nah give me the late 90s and finishing 15th and 16th in the premier league over now any day of the week

ajsccfc · Jan 23, 2020

I remember each relegation thinking 'at least we'll be winning loads now' which never quite worked out that way. If you're not looking as high as you can I don't get the point.

fernandopartridge · Jan 23, 2020

I found some of the top flight seasons pretty depressing, 96/97 was particularly bad as was the relegation season of course.

Liquid Gold · Jan 23, 2020

Get us up, away days all over the shop at decent stadiums with proper followings.

skybluetony176 · Jan 23, 2020

The biggest downside will be certain sections of our fan base calling for Robins head when we haven’t won the championship by Xmas with a plus eleventy billion goal difference.

mrtrench · Jan 23, 2020

87mint said:
I actually don't like fish

Why not? They're a great bunch of lads.

GaryJones · Jan 23, 2020

My fear is that we might need to spend serious wonga to compete in The Championship (wonga we dont have). If we are still at St Andrews and promoted I think we will have a serious problem - high expectation to spend to survive and a massively reduced income = struggle!
Stadium situation will be in sharp focus (good thing).

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jan 23, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
I found some of the top flight seasons pretty depressing, 96/97 was particularly bad as was the relegation season of course.

The 96/97 season is my favourite... the real great escape, 2-1 at spurs away, needing Middlesbrough and Sunderland to draw or lose... game delayed by 15 mins and of course Middlesbrough having the 3 point deduction

GaryJones · Jan 23, 2020

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
The 96/97 season is my favourite... the real great escape, 2-1 at spurs away, needing Middlesbrough and Sunderland to draw or lose... game delayed by 15 mins and of course Middlesbrough having the 3 point deduction

3 Point deduction! Thats a light slap on the wrist these days.

HerneBayGaz · Jan 23, 2020

GaryJones said:
"I wish we were back in League One as every game was enjoyable, beating teams and living life at the top end all season"

They way things are going looks like his wish is going to be granted..

Mcbean · Jan 23, 2020

its a moving target and Luton have not moved - its needs continual investment and that should come from the tele money and our owners who will have seen some payback in positive movement - good players will step up a level - we will have to loose some if we can make it - the difference between Championship attention in the press and league 1 is a country mile - we get nothing as we are - as soon as we get more our good players will be worth more

SkyBlueDom26 · Jan 23, 2020

I'd rather be Mid table/lower in the champ for consecutive seasons than spend any more seasons in this shite league

Moff · Jan 23, 2020

ajsccfc said:
I remember each relegation thinking 'at least we'll be winning loads now' which never quite worked out that way. If you're not looking as high as you can I don't get the point.

This!

GaryJones · Jan 23, 2020

GaryJones said:
3 Point deduction! Thats a light slap on the wrist these days.

3 Point Deduction!!! You were lucky.
We had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at 12 oclock at night and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty four hours a day at the mill for four pence every 6 years and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife!

RIP Terry Jones (Monty Python)

SkyBlueCRJ · Jan 23, 2020

Luton have bombed this season because their recruitment in the summer was dreadful. Given the amount of money they received through selling the likes of James and Stacey, you'd think they would've reinvested better rather than bring in the likes of McManaman.

That's only from the outside looking in though, maybe the manager at the time wasn't given the funds to reinvest into the squad to be fair. Still, the players he brought in weren't even up to the standard at the time.

ajsccfc · Jan 23, 2020

If someone doesn't want to go up and potentially struggle but stay comfortable where they are instead, do they start secretly wishing for some draws and defeats as the season gets to the end to avoid the dreaded promotion battle? Really don't get it.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jan 23, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
I'd rather be Mid table/lower in the champ for consecutive seasons than spend any more seasons in this shite league

Agreed. For me the step up to the championship is bigger than from league 1 to 2. If you look at the bottom of the Championship it makes grim reading for those aspiring to get out of our league. If Robins got us up and then avoided relegation that would be some achievement.

Houchens Head · Jan 23, 2020

I'd like to see us back in the Premier League! 34 years of playing top teams - winning and losing - but what memories! I won't settle for anything less. Can't stand defeatist talk!

Warwickhunt · Jan 23, 2020

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Nah give me the late 90s and finishing 15th and 16th in the premier league over now any day of the week

one season in the premiership would solve all our money problems!

higgs · Jan 23, 2020

Birmingham is big enough to have 3 teams in the championship cov villa and brum

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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Jan 23, 2020

I get that winning most weeks generally feels better but id prefer to see us competing at highest level we can, even if it ends in a relegation (swiftly followed by another rampage towards promotion). If we do go up then i think we really have to get the off-field sorted favourably to have much chance, gates of 8 or 9k in Birmingham will be a massive barrier to staying up.

Adge · Jan 23, 2020

Liquid Gold said:
Get us up, away days all over the shop at decent stadiums with proper followings.

Not sure about that. The novelty factor would create an initial bounce but if we were getting tonked every week I think the novelty would wear off.

Liquid Gold · Jan 23, 2020

Oh, let’s not forget the biggest point of all. Wasps would be desperate to get us back to the Ricoh and we might be in a strong enough position to negotiate a deal that makes us a saleable asset to sisu.

Rodders1 · Jan 23, 2020

Liquid Gold said:
Get us up, away days all over the shop at decent stadiums with proper followings.

Exactly

Cigarfingers · Jan 23, 2020

Always wanna be in the highest league possible.
If it’s a struggle against relegation then so what, some of us grew up watching that week in, week out! You have to be in those leagues to have any change of getting better! Plus it’s the whole point! Get good, move up the pyramid, always striving to get to the top!
Take relegation & promotion out of it and it’s just pointless.
For instance, any interest (and hopes) I ‘may’ have had in the insects results vanished once the league fixed it so they couldn’t get relegated. Crooked bastards probably had a hand in pushing the decision against Saracens to save themselves.

clint van damme · Jan 23, 2020

GaryJones said:
My fear is that we might need to spend serious wonga to compete in The Championship (wonga we dont have). If we are still at St Andrews and promoted I think we will have a serious problem - high expectation to spend to survive and a massively reduced income = struggle!
Stadium situation will be in sharp focus (good thing).

I think the further up the league's we go the more chance we have of striking a long term deal at the Ricoh or getting taken over so would be delighted to go up this season.

Yes, we've been spoiled these last few years, and without major investment we'd struggle but we're Coventry supporters, if anyone can.emdure getting beat every week it's us.

Rodders1 · Jan 23, 2020

GaryJones said:
My fear is that we might need to spend serious wonga to compete in The Championship (wonga we dont have). If we are still at St Andrews and promoted I think we will have a serious problem - high expectation to spend to survive and a massively reduced income = struggle!
Stadium situation will be in sharp focus (good thing).

I listened to a podcast recently that said Cov were one of the best recruiters in the 72 EFL clubs by using data analysis of lower leagues. They also said that Preston have similarly done very well with a smaller budget. We need to follow their lead if we go up. It’s possible..... see also Sheff Utd.

Astute · Jan 23, 2020

I remember the relegation battles season after season when we were in the top flight. Didn't ever consider wanting to be in a lower division so we could win more games. But it felt great when we beat one if the top sides.

I remember one season where we were safe with weeks to go. It was an anti climax. It felt so strange.

SlowerThanPlatt · Jan 23, 2020

Our wage bill is believed to be around £3m isn’t it?

Preston are/were paying £15m and Sheffield United £19m - I’m not sure we’ll be able to follow their blueprints

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