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Problems Started Years Ago! (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Apr 15, 2017
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #36
torchomatic said:
You forgot to mention selling the home we owned for a soulless box that crippled us.
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Agree with that.
But now we have sold our training ground for a school share sorry but for me that's just as bad, just to show a positive on the balance books what can they sell next time we are in a negative?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #37
Adge said:
And Sisu also took people's shares off them. People always forget this.
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Not bad for a quid.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #38
ovduk78 said:
Just read an article probably from Giblet's book that says that ACL didn't choose Pel seating (McGinnity's business) cause they were too expensive & McGinnity wasn't happy
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Imagine how much that fat crank charged the club to install all the replacement seats at HR mid 90s

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ccfc92

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #39
letsallsingtogether said:
Agree with that.
But now we have sold our training ground for a school share sorry but for me that's just as bad, just to show a positive on the balance books what can they sell next time we are in a negative?
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I wish we could sell Fisher.

Maybe flog him to a Chinese club?
 

ccfc92

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #40
Grendel said:
If we hadn't got relegated it would have been a viable project.

He had a buy back clause in the contract for the eventuality of relegation. You can say it all you like but he didn't sell the clause and he was removed as the remaining board members and the council wanted the project to happen.
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It's a shame we didn't wait until the 00's Premiership financial wind fall.

A couple more years in the top flight, it would have worked out. We got relegated at the perfectly worst moment.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #41
fernandopartridge said:
Imagine how much that fat crank charged the club to install all the replacement seats at HR mid 90s

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I didn't realise that. Bloke was a Wanker
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #42
And yet Richardson's vision has become reality for a franchise rugby team from London.
 
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Hadji's_Goatee

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #43
Listen up you bunch of idiots - Richardson set up the deal for Tesco to buy the plot for the biggest supermarket in Europe at the time for £80m. The club should of been self sufficient. We didn't even need to partner with the council on the stadium front. Only on the initial deal for the gas work land. The council has screwed us big time!!
 
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italiahorse

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #44
Hadji's_Goatee said:
Listen up you bunch of idiots - Richardson set up the deal for Tesco to buy the plot for the biggest supermarket in Europe at the time for £80m. The club should of been self sufficient. We didn't even need to partner with the council on the stadium front. Only on the initial deal for the gas work land. The council has screwed us big time!!
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We had the option to buy the land for I believe £2M but couldn't afford it.
We owed a company for decontaminating the site who found this out and bought the option.
They sold it to the council for £20M who sold half of it to Tesco for £60M and used that to build the stadium.
(Figures are from memory)

Thats a big loss for a small initial amount.
 
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singers_pore

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #45
RFC re-appears, drops a grenade, and disappears back down his fox hole. The ultimate troll.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Apr 15, 2017
  • #46
RFC said:
View attachment 7157 This is where it started. The rot started way before SISU. #CoventryCity #SkyBlues #PUSB
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Sorry RFC you told us.....

there would be a new stadium, no question.
You said there was a smoking gun and that SISU would win the legal action.
You supported the move to Northampton.

Forgive me for giving your opinion a lot little less credit now that you have been proven wrong on every point.

Decisions in the past by the people running the club have been wrong. SISU admitted themselves to also making lots of mistakes in the past whilst running the club. Unfortunately in my opinion they are still making them now and continue to do so.

We currently live in a society of a blame culture, others are encouraged to blame everyone else for their decisions. Be it in the courts, politics, schools or when accidents happen.

It's about time people face up to their own decisions and stop blaming others.

New Stadium Announcement
 
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skybluedan

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #47
I blame oggy
 

Hobo

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #48
RFC said:
View attachment 7157 This is where it started. The rot started way before SISU. #CoventryCity #SkyBlues #PUSB
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I don't disagree, but that doesn't excuse SISU's total failure in their stewardship of the club. They have been abysmal and we have declined rapidly under them. They are responsible for an awful lot also like Championship into League 2.
 
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ccfc92

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #49
Xmas 2014 he said "positive news was on the way"

 

Astute

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #50
Hadji's_Goatee said:
Listen up you bunch of idiots - Richardson set up the deal for Tesco to buy the plot for the biggest supermarket in Europe at the time for £80m. The club should of been self sufficient. We didn't even need to partner with the council on the stadium front. Only on the initial deal for the gas work land. The council has screwed us big time!!
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Is that right?

Sounds like you have been listening to Richardson. It was only last year that he said he had bought the land and sold part of it to Tesco's. Now we all know as a fact that the land wasn't bought by anyone with anything to do with CCFC. But you believe anything else he has said?

How about the countless mysterious payments made from our club when Richardson was in charge? Or that he was the best paid chairman in the year before they kicked him off the board. He paid himself £568,000 IIRC. This was made up of mainly as a payment for selling land for retail on the site of the Ricoh. But he didn't sell anything as he had nothing to sell. It wasn't his or our land. He then sold HR and agreed to rent it back at 1.2m a year.

So with all of the dodgy looking deals and wages we couldn't afford we were left without a pot to piss in. We then got relegated from the Prem. Our income nosedived. Because of our extremely high debt we couldn't raise any more money for anything. Even after the Tesco money we needed another 60m for the Ricoh build. That is why CCC got involved. And we all know how that ended.

For those who are too young and those who can't remember or somehow didn't know what occurred try a bit of reading. The Internet is full of information of the Richardson days. Just don't listen to people like Grendel who just wants to blame CCC for everything so he makes Richardson sound innocent so he can shift the blame on CCC. There is just one person who put our future into doubt with an astronomical debt and being homeless. Without him there would have been no involvement of CCC in the build of the Ricoh. And there would have been no SISU thinking that they could use emotional blackmail and then the courts to get the Ricoh cheaply.
 
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Astute

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #51
italiahorse said:
We had the option to buy the land for I believe £2M but couldn't afford it.
We owed a company for decontaminating the site who found this out and bought the option.
They sold it to the council for £20M who sold half of it to Tesco for £60M and used that to build the stadium.
(Figures are from memory)

Thats a big loss for a small initial amount.
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The decontamination of the land came to nearly 20m alone. And the land cost a lot more than 2m.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #52
rupert_bear said:
The Richardson era was disastrous and yes led to our downfall and ultimately led to sisu coming here. But I can go back further to Derrick Robins who did bankroll us in the JH days and often lauded on here but fluffed it massively letting Brian Clough slip through his fingers.
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I've read before that Clough never had any real intention of coming to cov and was using us to get a better deal at Forest.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #53
Adge said:
And Sisu also took people's shares off them. People always forget this.
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Wasn't that 'Uncle Joe'?
 

Hobo

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #54
Sick Boy said:
Wasn't that 'Uncle Joe'?
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SISU held a gun to fans heads saying the takeover wouldn't happen unless small shareholders handed their shares over. They wanted a closed shop from day one, always worrying sign.
 
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ovduk78

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #55
Sick Boy said:
I've read before that Clough never had any real intention of coming to cov and was using us to get a better deal at Forest.
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He was manager of Derby at the time. There are a few theories over the whole episode like he wanted more money & was undervalued by Derby chairman or he couldn't work with Jimmy Hill
 
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Adge

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #56
Hobo said:
SISU held a gun to fans heads saying the takeover wouldn't happen unless small shareholders handed their shares over. They wanted a closed shop from day one, always worrying sign.
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Yep-surprised it wasn't questioned more at the time.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #57
ovduk78 said:
He was manager of Derby at the time. There are a few theories over the whole episode like he wanted more money & was undervalued by Derby chairman or he couldn't work with Jimmy Hill
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That's what I read before...thanks for the correction..bit before my time
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #58
Hobo said:
SISU held a gun to fans heads saying the takeover wouldn't happen unless small shareholders handed their shares over. They wanted a closed shop from day one, always worrying sign.
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It didn't help that those who questioned it were shouted down and labelled villa and Leicester fans etc.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #59
RFC said:
View attachment 7157 This is where it started. The rot started way before SISU. #CoventryCity #SkyBlues #PUSB
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Sisu have done much better than he did
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 16, 2017
  • #60
Hobo said:
SISU held a gun to fans heads saying the takeover wouldn't happen unless small shareholders handed their shares over. They wanted a closed shop from day one, always worrying sign.
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True and they were eagerly helped by Mr Coventry.
 
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RFC

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #61
RFC said:
View attachment 7157 This is where it started. The rot started way before SISU. #CoventryCity #SkyBlues #PUSB
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Got it in ONE!


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Brylowes

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #62
WTF
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #63
RFC said:
Got it in ONE!


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You’re back I have missed you so much.
Oh no we must really be in the shit now
 
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Brylowes

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #64
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Then he's to blame, totally. Joy and Timmy vindicated. It's Brian's fault we're in division 4 without a stadium.
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I’m not the Messiah, but I’m a very naughty boy
 
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fatso

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #65
RFC said:
Got it in ONE!


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Mate, if you have no-one to talk to and nothing to do on a Saturday night, there's always the Samaritans.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #66
Welcome back shugs
 

Bernie Rhodes Nose

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #67
Gazolba said:
Our problems started with the Big Bang. It was all downhill from there.
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And that naked couple with that bloody apple...
 
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ajsccfc

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #68
Old threads should go read only, at least limit the tedium to new stuff.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #69
ajsccfc said:
Old threads should go read only, at least limit the tedium to new stuff.
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But then we’d be entirely reliant on Grendels spreadsheet
 
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Hobo

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  • Nov 19, 2022
  • #70
RFC said:
View attachment 7157 This is where it started. The rot started way before SISU. #CoventryCity #SkyBlues #PUSB
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Jimmy Hill came back and was responsible for selling Denis Mortimer and later Gary Thompson.

Jimmy Hill as Chairman was full of good ideas but none did us any good.

No owner will please all of the fans.

We are still in exhistance and I am grateful for that. The only league I have ever been interested in since 1967 is the league we are in.
 
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