Problems and Solutions (1 Viewer)

Fusilier said:

The consensus among the fans on this forum, social media and BBC CWR is that there are several reasons for the unacceptable performances and results.
This includes:

- Failing to sign a midfield player in the summer transfer window to replace Liam Kelly
- Failing to ensure that the squad has 2 players for every position;
- The club's recruitment model lacks flexibility because it solely focuses on signing players under 24 who can be sold for a profit.
- The unwillingness to use the loan market to improve the squad and ensure that there are 2 players for every position
- Not having a replacement lined up for Kasey Palmer, who was in the final year of his contract
- The lack of experience and leadership in the squad.
- The club has failed to replace McFadzean and Kelly adequately, both of whom had a significant influence on the squad due to their experience and leadership.
- The coaching restructure. In particular, the roles given to John Dempster and Aled Williams, who were the cheap options, not the best options.
- The constant changes in defence and the poor quality of the press
- The poor passing and the lack of movement in midfield which forces the defenders to make risky passes and long passes, which too often results in possession being lost

It seems to me that some solutions to the problems are:

- Upgrade the coaching staff by replacing John Dempster and Aled Williams as soon as possible;
- Sign Matty James and Cyrus Christie until the end of the season on performance-based contracts;
- Use the loan market in January to improve the squad and ensure that there are 2 players for every position;

What do the members of the forum think the solutions to the problems are?

What changes should Doug King and/or Mark Robins make to improve performances and results?

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JohnWH said:

More serious thought:
I realize sport is high octane and very high pressure results oriented (meaning a lot of slapshot, panicked decision making), so this suggestion might seem bonkers. There looks to be a lot cogs in the gears behind-the-scenes. I really think despite all the background noise, there needs to be a "tell me anything, you're not in trouble" type conversation by Robins with each and every player new and old. Robins + players need to rediscover a trusting relationship where both are working for each others' success. A good leader (in business) can push good results and performance out of a so-called "front line employee" if they are both on the same wavelength of working positively toward the big picture, even if (and especially if) that employee's ambitions are for a better paying position elsewhere. Gaining insight from those "doing the job" (on the field), even if it's moaning, gripes, etc. but even more useful if it includes ANYTHING concerning mixed messages behind the scenes. Figure out where the breakdown is. If it's a behind-the-scenes problem, it can be fixed. If it's a personality problem, there are solutions...... the disjointed, confused, angry-at-each-other on the field of play stems from something more than just a few disappointing results.... the problem could be any (or none of) those suggested by the Right Honorable Fusilier.

Less serious though:
Everyone does a sort of Escape Room night out, with a pizza party

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wingy said:

Sounds like the advice of a marriage Councillor tbf

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Fusilier said:

The consensus among the fans on this forum, social media and BBC CWR is that there are several reasons for the unacceptable performances and results.
This includes:

- Failing to sign a midfield player in the summer transfer window to replace Liam Kelly
- Failing to ensure that the squad has 2 players for every position;
- The club's recruitment model lacks flexibility because it solely focuses on signing players under 24 who can be sold for a profit.
- The unwillingness to use the loan market to improve the squad and ensure that there are 2 players for every position
- Not having a replacement lined up for Kasey Palmer, who was in the final year of his contract
- The lack of experience and leadership in the squad.
- The club has failed to replace McFadzean and Kelly adequately, both of whom had a significant influence on the squad due to their experience and leadership.
- The coaching restructure. In particular, the roles given to John Dempster and Aled Williams, who were the cheap options, not the best options.
- The constant changes in defence and the poor quality of the press
- The poor passing and the lack of movement in midfield which forces the defenders to make risky passes and long passes, which too often results in possession being lost

It seems to me that some solutions to the problems are:

- Upgrade the coaching staff by replacing John Dempster and Aled Williams as soon as possible;
- Sign Matty James and Cyrus Christie until the end of the season on performance-based contracts;
- Use the loan market in January to improve the squad and ensure that there are 2 players for every position;

What do the members of the forum think the solutions to the problems are?

What changes should Doug King and/or Mark Robins make to improve performances and results?

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Fusilier said:

Sign Matty James and Cyrus Christie until the end of the season on performance-based contracts;

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Fusilier said:

The consensus among the fans on this forum, social media and BBC CWR is that there are several reasons for the unacceptable performances and results.
This includes:

- Failing to sign a midfield player in the summer transfer window to replace Liam Kelly
- Failing to ensure that the squad has 2 players for every position;
- The club's recruitment model lacks flexibility because it solely focuses on signing players under 24 who can be sold for a profit.
- The unwillingness to use the loan market to improve the squad and ensure that there are 2 players for every position
- Not having a replacement lined up for Kasey Palmer, who was in the final year of his contract
- The lack of experience and leadership in the squad.
- The club has failed to replace McFadzean and Kelly adequately, both of whom had a significant influence on the squad due to their experience and leadership.
- The coaching restructure. In particular, the roles given to John Dempster and Aled Williams, who were the cheap options, not the best options.
- The constant changes in defence and the poor quality of the press
- The poor passing and the lack of movement in midfield which forces the defenders to make risky passes and long passes, which too often results in possession being lost

It seems to me that some solutions to the problems are:

- Upgrade the coaching staff by replacing John Dempster and Aled Williams as soon as possible;
- Sign Matty James and Cyrus Christie until the end of the season on performance-based contracts;
- Use the loan market in January to improve the squad and ensure that there are 2 players for every position;

What do the members of the forum think the solutions to the problems are?

What changes should Doug King and/or Mark Robins make to improve performances and results?

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:

Signing free agents at this stage really isn't a solution. If anything it's a plaster for a bullet wound and probably more likely to not come to much than actually benefit the squad.

For starters, it'll take at least a month to six weeks to get them match fit and there's no guarantee that they'll actually feature much, potentially making them a complete waste of budget.

I think people need to also question the reason behind why they haven't been picked up yet.

Either clubs feel these players are unable to compete in the league they're in or their wage demands are far beyond what is realistic comparative to their perceived worth.

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Fusilier said:

The consensus among the fans on this forum, social media and BBC CWR is that there are several reasons for the unacceptable performances and results.
This includes:

- Failing to sign a midfield player in the summer transfer window to replace Liam Kelly
- Failing to ensure that the squad has 2 players for every position;
- The club's recruitment model lacks flexibility because it solely focuses on signing players under 24 who can be sold for a profit.
- The unwillingness to use the loan market to improve the squad and ensure that there are 2 players for every position
- Not having a replacement lined up for Kasey Palmer, who was in the final year of his contract
- The lack of experience and leadership in the squad.
- The club has failed to replace McFadzean and Kelly adequately, both of whom had a significant influence on the squad due to their experience and leadership.
- The coaching restructure. In particular, the roles given to John Dempster and Aled Williams, who were the cheap options, not the best options.
- The constant changes in defence and the poor quality of the press
- The poor passing and the lack of movement in midfield which forces the defenders to make risky passes and long passes, which too often results in possession being lost

It seems to me that some solutions to the problems are:

- Upgrade the coaching staff by replacing John Dempster and Aled Williams as soon as possible;
- Sign Matty James and Cyrus Christie until the end of the season on performance-based contracts;
- Use the loan market in January to improve the squad and ensure that there are 2 players for every position;

What do the members of the forum think the solutions to the problems are?

What changes should Doug King and/or Mark Robins make to improve performances and results?

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shmmeee said:

Any new manager will have the same problems and will be just as able to solve them with the setup around the manager as Robins has been.

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Nick said:

Really? It's nonsense to say that no new manager would be different.

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ProfessorbyGrace said:

A pivotal, inspirational driving force in midfield HAS to be replaced, with someone close to that departed players level. I know they have tried, but come on…we’ve strengthened every position, aside from CDM.

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ProfessorbyGrace said:

I know we’ve all said it ad nauseum, but the failure to adequately replace Hamer is the biggest mistake the club has made.

A pivotal, inspirational driving force in midfield HAS to be replaced, with someone close to that departed players level. I know they have tried, but come on…we’ve strengthened every position, aside from CDM.

Losing Gus was bad enough, but at least we had Vik. Now that we don’t have Vik, but rather, a passive, inattentive, misfiring forward line and a midfield beyond the depth of a sheet of paper, this crucial area of recruitment is proving difficult to ignore.

We look a shambles on the pitch, without a single leader or character that is capable of motivating this team. Add that to the now-obvious deficiency in the coaching department, then we have an environment ripe for decline, imo.

This is going to be a tough season to stomach, if again, things don’t somehow click into place.

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clint van damme said:

If they don't pass the gold standard physiological test they're not coming in!

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2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:

didn’t Vik leave before Gus?

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bigfatronssba said:

I suspect that’s the problem. These players don’t seem as mentally tough as those that we had previously

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clint van damme said:

If/when we get another midfield injury we'll be playing Lati in there every week.
This should have been addressed, even if it meant signing a free agent.
Not ideal but better than the alternative we are faced with.

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:

Signing free agents at this stage really isn't a solution. If anything it's a plaster for a bullet wound and probably more likely to not come to much than actually benefit the squad.

For starters, it'll take at least a month to six weeks to get them match fit and there's no guarantee that they'll actually feature much, potentially making them a complete waste of budget.

I think people need to also question the reason behind why they haven't been picked up yet.

Either clubs feel these players are unable to compete in the league they're in or their wage demands are far beyond what is realistic comparative to their perceived worth.

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:

It should've been addressed, but we're now a month on from the window finishing.

Signing someone now that won't be fit before first week of November (at best) isn't really an alternative. We need someone now, not in a month to six weeks.

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:

It should've been addressed, but we're now a month on from the window finishing.

Signing someone now that won't be fit before first week of November (at best) isn't really an alternative. We need someone now, not in a month to six weeks.

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torchomatic said:

It can always be a solution. Loads of the top teams in our league have signed free agents since the window closed.

Luton signed Victor Moses who scored on Friday night and was their second highest rated player against Plymouth.

The notion that free agents are old, past it or a waste of money is lazy thinking.

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Gint11 said:

For me, the excuses we are peddling every week isn’t good enough. The management team need to find a better way or quite simply, we need a change. At this rate, we are relegation candidates.

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:

Do you have an aversion to reading as I've not actually said this...

Luton had been speaking to Moses for much of the summer and I believe had been training with them a couple of weeks prior to him agreeing terms.

It's a completely different scenario.

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Sky Blue Harry H said:

Not likely to sign 'pay as you play'
Not likely to be match fit
Waste of money

Sooner use the loan market in the next window, assuming there are no viable permanent options (which there rarely are).
Get minimum of 3 points (hopefully more) in the next 2 home games.
Fanbase and MR not to panic (although the former won't be able to help themselves!)

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:

Do you have an aversion to reading as I've not actually said this...

Luton had been speaking to Moses for much of the summer and I believe had been training with them a couple of weeks prior to him agreeing terms.

It's a completely different scenario.

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