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Pressleys Record at Cov (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Mar 19, 2014
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ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2014
  • #71
ccfcway said:
oh well, at least he isnt involved in the England set up !
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thats just made me realise

England - Boothroyd
Wales - Coleman
Scotland - Strachan
N Ireland - Michael Hughes
 
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thaiskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 20, 2014
  • #72
ccfcway said:
thats just made me realise

England - Boothroyd
Wales - Coleman
Scotland - Strachan
N Ireland - Michael Hughes
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oh dear.... so much for playing like baca.../ spain.....
 
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SonOfSnoz

New Member
  • Mar 20, 2014
  • #73
ahccfc said:
true but historically, have cov teams have hardly been inspired to herculean feats at the ricoh! To my mind a manager can only be judged on:

1) results
got more then recent cov managers!
2) signings
only had chance to get kids & cheap ones in!
3) fitness (via training regimes)
how many late results we achieved?
4) tactics
lovely passing football, not hoof ball as micky adams tried!
5) formations
that match team capabilities!
6) substitutions
super subs galore, marshall etc
7) team morale
very positive!

Ultimately all of these traits are measurable, and none really affected by a points deduction! Finances maybe - points deduction no way! As others have said, the points deduction could have a +ve effect in that it allowed the team to achieve a blitz never say die attitude. And lc scoring for fun could have brought in complacency - we just will never know for sure!

Any manager should stand or fall on the first 6 points, and the 7th is a result of those 6 points. Is pressley the best possible manager available? Clearly not, as his replacement at falkirk is doing better with the same resources!
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presso is value for money!
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Mar 20, 2014
  • #74
ahccfc said:
But you said that he should be given 3 years! You also point to Boothroyd having a glory season. To me either you back/ sack a manager based on current performance or you don't. His current form is 2 wins out of 10 - 3 wins in 2014.

Why is Pressley getting such a free ride? I just don't get it.
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Did I f**k, I said he can only be judged as a good manager over longer period, I did not at any point say it must be at CCFC.
Wherever he is, if he fails he is out, that is true of any football managerial appointment at any club isn't it!

You are not interpreting my post correctly. I certainly don't have a FIXED & INFLEXIBLE view on anything, like you infer I have.
 
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The Prefect

Active Member
  • Mar 20, 2014
  • #75
torchomatic said:
Which is why we should have stayed where we were.

"They"?
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Agreed.

'They.." - The club..!
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #76
Games 54

Won 20

Drawn 15

Lost 19
 
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coop

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #77
I do think him not saying we had a chance of the play offs has backfired
 

Otis

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  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #78
ccfcway said:
Must say, I thought it was better than this....

Games 53

Won 20

Drawn 15

Lost 18
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Pressley's record at Cov isn't too bad, it's his record at Northampton we need to worry more about I would say.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #79
ccfcway said:
Games 54

Won 20

Drawn 15

Lost 19
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one more defeat and we can call him average ?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #80
ccfcway said:
one more defeat and we can call him average ?
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Only if he draws another 5 after that.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #81
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Only if he draws another 5 after that.
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I'd take that !
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #82
ccfcway said:
I'd take that !
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I wouldn't that is still bottom of the table form and it gives one of our relegation rivals a win. We'd be in or around the relegation zone with 3 games to play, 2 away from home, the "home" game against top of the table wolves and we wouldn't have won any of our last 10. Even beating Oldham by far the most winnable of the 3 quite possibly wouldn't be enough.
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #83
We're really in the shit now, wins in next 2 matches vs Stevenage & Crewe are essential now.

This is form over the last 8 matches, abysmal.

Code:
  	  	P 	W 	D 	L 	GF 	GA 	Dif 	Pts
1 	Wolverhampton 	8 	6 	1 	1 	18 	3 	+15 	19
2 	Sheffield Utd 	8 	6 	1 	1 	9 	2 	+7 	19
3 	Rotherham 	8 	5 	3 	0 	17 	6 	+11 	18
4 	Brentford 	8 	5 	2 	1 	12 	6 	+6 	17
5 	Leyton Orient 	8 	4 	3 	1 	10 	4 	+6 	15
6 	Bristol City 	8 	4 	3 	1 	14 	12 	+2 	15
7 	Preston 	8 	3 	4 	1 	11 	8 	+3 	13
8 	Milton Keynes 	8 	4 	1 	3 	10 	9 	+1 	13
9 	Stevenage 	8 	3 	3 	2 	11 	9 	+2 	12
10 	Crawley Town 	8 	3 	3 	2 	7 	6 	+1 	12
11 	Peterborough 	8 	3 	1 	4 	8 	8 	0 	10
12 	Shrewsbury 	8 	2 	4 	2 	8 	8 	0 	10
13 	Gillingham 	8 	3 	1 	4 	10 	11 	-1 	10
14 	Bradford 	8 	3 	1 	4 	8 	9 	-1 	10
15 	Crewe Alexandra 8 	2 	3 	3 	12 	13 	-1 	9
16 	Tranmere 	8 	2 	2 	4 	14 	17 	-3 	8
17 	Colchester 	8 	2 	2 	4 	6 	9 	-3 	8
18 	Oldham 		8 	2 	2 	4 	8 	12 	-4 	8
19 	Carlisle Utd 	8 	2 	2 	4 	6 	10 	-4 	8
20 	Port Vale 	8 	2 	2 	4 	8 	14 	-6 	8
21 	Swindon Town 	8 	1 	4 	3 	5 	10 	-5 	7
22 	Notts County 	8 	2 	1 	5 	12 	18 	-6 	7
[B][COLOR="#800000"]23 	[B]Coventry City [/B]	8 	1 	2 	5 	10 	17 	-7 	5[/COLOR][/B]
24 	Walsall 	8 	0 	4 	4 	6 	12 	-6 	4
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #84
Can see Pressley doing a Robbins in the summer and leaving us. Just listened to his interview after the game and the fact he's ripped into the loan players says a lot, he said he was dead against signing loan players at the start of the season and you can see why, they're not bothered what happens while they're here,they all go back to their own clubs at the end of the season, sounds like loans will be his only option next season, he won't hang around if that's the case. You can see he's getting frustrated, can't blame him, sounds too familiar again ?
 
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thaiskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #85
quinn1971 said:
Can see Pressley doing a Robbins in the summer and leaving us. Just listened to his interview after the game and the fact he's ripped into the loan players says a lot, he said he was dead against signing loan players at the start of the season and you can see why, they're not bothered what happens while they're here,they all go back to their own clubs at the end of the season, sounds like loans will be his only option next season, he won't hang around if that's the case. You can see he's getting frustrated, can't blame him, sounds too familiar again ?
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agreed....
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #86
If our form for our last 13 games had gone for the whole season to this point we'd be bottom of the table 16 points below Notts County, but it would be fine, we'd have a game in hand.
 

nicksig

Active Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #87
Difference is that Robbins had us playing great football and it was just a matter of time before another came in for him. But our form since Xmas has been miserable and we practically have the worse defensive record in the league.
quinn1971 said:
Can see Pressley doing a Robbins in the summer and leaving us. Just listened to his interview after the game and the fact he's ripped into the loan players says a lot, he said he was dead against signing loan players at the start of the season and you can see why, they're not bothered what happens while they're here,they all go back to their own clubs at the end of the season, sounds like loans will be his only option next season, he won't hang around if that's the case. You can see he's getting frustrated, can't blame him, sounds too familiar again ?
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #88
quinn1971 said:
Can see Pressley doing a Robbins in the summer and leaving us. Just listened to his interview after the game and the fact he's ripped into the loan players says a lot, he said he was dead against signing loan players at the start of the season and you can see why, they're not bothered what happens while they're here,they all go back to their own clubs at the end of the season, sounds like loans will be his only option next season, he won't hang around if that's the case. You can see he's getting frustrated, can't blame him, sounds too familiar again ?
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Nope. No chance.

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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #89
Noggin said:
If our form for our last 13 games had gone for the whole season to this point we'd be bottom of the table 16 points below Notts County, but it would be fine, we'd have a game in hand.
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Lucky for us then that didn't happen.

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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #90
nicksig said:
Difference is that Robbins had us playing great football and it was just a matter of time before another came in for him. But our form since Xmas has been miserable and we practically have the worse defensive record in the league.
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I wouldn't say we played 'great' football under robins. Quite often McGoldrick saved our bacon, we struggled at home, had a leaky defence but were much better away from the Ricoh where we could hit teams on the break.


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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #91
torchomatic said:
Nope. No chance.

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Phew....that's ok then
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #92
torchomatic said:
Lucky for us then that didn't happen.

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of course it is absolutely (though not really luck of course) but should we stay up (and for the record I still think we will, though I'll feel differently if we've lost 2 more this time next week) then it shows what we have to look forward to next year.

Of course you won't believe that because you've had a nice mass produced letter that a computer put your name on that says we'll be competitive next year even though there is no evidence of that EDIT- Sorry the letter doesn't say that, not sure where I read Pressley say we'll be competitive next year), that we are almost certainly going to lose multiple talented players whose recent poor form due to their contract running out is a significant part of the reason for the recent results and there is no evidence that we can attract or afford to pay for anyone of a similar talent.
 
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nicksig

Active Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #93
He picked up the club from a terrible position and turned things round pretty quickly. I remember us winning away at sheff utd and coming home thinking we could make the playoffs only for the points deduction to kick in and Robbins to leave. Best manager we have had in recent years in my opinion
stupot07 said:
I wouldn't say we played 'great' football under robins. Quite often McGoldrick saved our bacon, we struggled at home, had a leaky defence but were much better away from the Ricoh where we could hit teams on the break.


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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #94
stupot07 said:
I wouldn't say we played 'great' football under robins. Quite often McGoldrick saved our bacon, we struggled at home, had a leaky defence but were much better away from the Ricoh where we could hit teams on the break.


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Last seasons defence looks rock solid compared to the crap we've had this season
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2014
  • #95
CCFC said:
Last seasons defence looks rock solid compared to the crap we've had this season
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True, but still not solid when considering they had a championship centre half, 2 defensive central midfielders and a 5 man midfield to support it - only 3 teams kept less cleansheets than us last season. Let's not forget robins had a better funded squad that was underachieving. He did well, he's a decent manager but the football in general wasn't great.

I'm not hammering Robins, but it's hard to compare him with a £4m+ wage bill and Pressley with a £2m wage bill.
 
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