Have to say... would we miss Fleck if he was sold?
All the promise in the world, but so far it's added up to half a decent season for us, and still a nagging doubt there he'll never fulfill his promise.
So get him out while his stock's relatively high?
I don't particular rate him either
Not only his striker signings either. From the few games I saw last seasons and what others have said, the best players for the club last season,Clarke/Wilson/Murphy/Moussa were all already at the club,when he arrived. Most of his permanent signings and loans have been patchy to say the least. With no recognised strikers at the club, and with the reality that those likely to arrive will be freebies, he will need to have some inspired or maybe lucky breaks to even hope to match the goals we have lost from last season. Yep I'm sure come the start of the season we will have 2/3/4 new forward bodies here, but will they be any better than even sides like Crawley, well lets hope so.His previous striker signings have done anything but inspire.
This is where he'll make or break his reputation, as it's the glaring flaw on his record so far, and he's got no strikers at the club to cover his back now.
I don't particular rate him either, like you say he's only shone for 25% of the match's he's played in, it's more the fact we don't need 1 central midfielder who attacks and scores 10-15 on his own.
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About as much spark as Moussa did in the second half of the season.
If bakers on going to play, fleck may well end up taking pens - so there potential 3-4 goals, his partner chips in with another 3-4, then 3rd choice/sub central midfielder chips in with 2-3 there's your 10 from central mid.
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These new wingers that will score 20 goals between them, will they be helping out the exposed full backs or just bombing forward looking for their goals because that will just expose us like last season under you thinking.
He plays so deep because he hasn't got the legs to get forward and properly support the attack.From the little I saw, I thought Fleck played too deep to be effective last season.
And for all the hype about Moussa, we should remember that was by far his best ever season and the season before Baker got 15.
He plays so deep because he hasn't got the legs to get forward and properly support the attack.
Have to say... would we miss Fleck if he was sold?
All the promise in the world, but so far it's added up to half a decent season for us, and still a nagging doubt there he'll never fulfill his promise.
So get him out while his stock's relatively high?
Of course we would miss him, he was such a key player last season, he kept us ticking over, his passing is key to our play. He didn't have a great second half of the season, but nobody did. If we lost fleck we would be hard pressed to get a suitable replacement.
Although I'd rather we played like we did the first half the season than the second!
With a good defense, and a decent holding midfielder, so would I. But would still take an attacking midfielder in the mould of Moussa.
But as I have said before and you too, this is where Pressley will be tested because to be honest last season's transfers were a shambles. This season with no embargo and 'some' money to spend there can be no excuses.
With a good defense, and a decent holding midfielder, so would I. But would still take an attacking midfielder in the mould of Moussa.
But as I have said before and you too, this is where Pressley will be tested because to be honest last season's transfers were a shambles. This season with no embargo and 'some' money to spend there can be no excuses.
You can see already that the gulf in quality between last year's signings and this years is huge. Because of the embargo, we had to settle for an out of shape frenchman and pressley's mate. Now we have signed players with championship experience which will benefit us hugely this season
Lets see them play first. Don't forget that although we have signed players, we have lost the best keeper in the league, the two best forwards and the best attacking midfielder. Big shoes to fill.
Couple that with having the worst defense in the league (just about) and it just shows why Pressley is having to work very hard in the transfer market.
Lets see them play first. Don't forget that although we have signed players, we have lost the best keeper in the league, the two best forwards and the best attacking midfielder. Big shoes to fill.
Couple that with having the worst defense in the league (just about) and it just shows why Pressley is having to work very hard in the transfer market.
I don't think we necessarily have bad defensive players, it's the system we played last season didn't work.
As much as I like to big our players up, none of who you listed are best in the league bar Wilson. Assombalonga, baldock and garner are all 10x as good as Clarke. Dean cox is better than moussa as is Ben pringle and Declan Rudd is better than Murphy.
Jim Blyth never rated Murphy.
tbh I could never really understand why. Sure, he wasn't perfect... but then what do you expect for our level?
In this instance though, guess we have to cling to the hope Blyth was right!
Webster??????
Fleck has never taken pens in his footballing career (goals tally backs that up unless he has and missed a shit load which means he won't take them anyway) so why would he start now. I am sure the incoming strikers would try and take that mantle. So you are saying that a defensive midfielder (his partner) chips in 3-4 times the goals Fleck did last season. How many did Thomas get doing that role?
These new wingers that will score 20 goals between them, will they be helping out the exposed full backs or just bombing forward looking for their goals because that will just expose us like last season under you thinking.
Wilson and Clarke were the best partnership and highest scoring so together that makes them the best for me and had they stayed fit and together the whole season then promotion may just have been achievable. Moussa for me has that something that Cox doesn't and the ability to turn a game or score a goal not just out of nothing but a worldy and every team in the league would take that. I thought Murphy's performances were what stopped us being relegated but didn't really see the others so I'll have to take your word on those.
As much as I like to big our players up, none of who you listed are best in the league bar Wilson. Assombalonga, baldock and garner are all 10x as good as Clarke. Dean cox is better than moussa as is Ben pringle and Declan Rudd is better than Murphy.
Moussa easily more talented than Cox and Pringle and he has variation to his game. Murphy pound for pound best keeper in the league, Rudd is decent but if he was any good he'd be sitting on Norwich's bench competing with Ruddy.
Agreed in a 442 system you are rarely going to a central midfielder who bags 10 goals by himself. It's different when you play a five man midfield as you would be looking for one central midfielder to bag that many.I don't particular rate him either, like you say he's only shone for 25% of the match's he's played in, it's more the fact we don't need 1 central midfielder who attacks and scores 10-15 on his own.
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Agreed in a 442 system you are rarely going to a central midfielder who bags 10 goals by himself. It's different when you play a five man midfield as you would be looking for one central midfielder to bag that many.
Personally I think we need two new central midfielders. Daniels and Barton are crap and we need two player who can compete with Fleck and Thomas for a place in the first team
Thomas literally doesn't offer anything positive in the midfield, lacks bite in the tackle and confidence to ever become a good defensive midfielder
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