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Pressley thought the team were EXCELLENT!!!! (5 Viewers)

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  • Start date Apr 27, 2013
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SkyBlueRuffian

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  • Apr 29, 2013
  • #106
CCFCDan87 said:
My criteria is football and so far it's been dire.
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Because we have a squad full of dire players.
 
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psgm1

Banned
  • Apr 29, 2013
  • #107
Squad is identical for Robins, Carsley and SP excvept for ONE player (either DMc or Leon). So are you saying the team's success or failure depends on the form of one player?

Its a truism that any team game CANNOT be revolved around one player and succeed.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2013
  • #108
psgm1 said:
Squad is identical for Robins, Carsley and SP excvept for ONE player (either DMc or Leon). So are you saying the team's success or failure depends on the form of one player?

Its a truism that any team game CANNOT be revolved around one player and succeed.
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I'm sure you have posted on numerous occasions that Robins success was down to McGoldrick....now you are saying it wasn't?
 
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CCFCDan87

New Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #109
SkyBlueRuffian said:
Because we have a squad full of dire players.
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Wasn't dire when robins was here, best football seen in years. One player doesn't make a great team, it helps but can't keep using the Dmc excuse for Pressley inept management style thus far.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #110
CCFCDan87 said:
Wasn't dire when robins was here, best football seen in years. One player doesn't make a great team, it helps but can't keep using the Dmc excuse for Pressley inept management style thus far.
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You've obviously been boycotting the Ricoh this season then....
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #111
CCFCDan87 said:
Wasn't dire when robins was here, best football seen in years. One player doesn't make a great team, it helps but can't keep using the Dmc excuse for Pressley inept management style thus far.
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It doesn't help when you have the arguably the best striker in the league out does it?
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #112
psgm1 said:
Squad is identical for Robins, Carsley and SP excvept for ONE player (either DMc or Leon). So are you saying the team's success or failure depends on the form of one player?

Its a truism that any team game CANNOT be revolved around one player and succeed.
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That's exactly what you were saying during the whole of Robins tenure.
 
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psgm1

Banned
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #113
WillieStanley said:
That's exactly what you were saying during the whole of Robins tenure.
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Right, and whilst it can be done for a short time, in the long term it will fail! Which was why I was so against the insane claims robins had turned the team around (because he had NOT turned the team around - and was relying on ONE PLAYER), and why he would inevitably fail!

Seems I WAS proven right all along!

I will accept this as your admission I was right about Robins and graciously accept your apology
 
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CCFCDan87

New Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #114
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
It doesn't help when you have the arguably the best striker in the league out does it?
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So you play with what you have. Basic skills to management
 
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CCFCDan87

New Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #115
stupot07 said:
You've obviously been boycotting the Ricoh this season then....
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Iol away games I went to this season (MK, Stevenage, donny, Sheffield utd and Hartlepool) was best since black. Anyone there would agree
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #116
CCFCDan87 said:
So you play with what you have. Basic skills to management
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Exactly, I was saying the same when it was Thorn and it was the "hands are tied" etc.

If you don't have the big striker who can hold it up and excels being on his own up top then surely you change the tactic to suit the players that are available? Rather than play the same tactic and wonder why the other players can't do it as well?

We are in league one, not the champions league. We are under a transfer embargo, we play on shit pitches.

We have to adjust play to suit conditions, players available and opposition. We can't keep saying "But we want to play like Barcelona like we do in training" on a boggy pitch in December at Crawley can we?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #117
Nick said:
Exactly, I was saying the same when it was Thorn and it was the "hands are tied" etc.

If you don't have the big striker who can hold it up and excels being on his own up top then surely you change the tactic to suit the players that are available? Rather than play the same tactic and wonder why the other players can't do it as well?

We are in league one, not the champions league. We are under a transfer embargo, we play on shit pitches.

We have to adjust play to suit conditions, players available and opposition. We can't keep saying "But we want to play like Barcelona like we do in training" on a boggy pitch in December at Crawley can we?
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What we have got is a good set of midfielders, Fleck, Moussa, Barton, Thomas and Jennings (overall he's a good season) whereas we have 1 good striker, who's injured. We had a big striker front Ball (who was poor), Cody, who doesn't suit our style and needs a big striker with him, which we don't have, Wilson is a rookie, SP rates him, seeing potential, but I'm sceptical, I'd like for him to be good, and Philliskirk looked OKish. Playing 4-4-2 with any combination of them would give you the worst of both worlds, you have 2 inadequate strikers upfront WHILST compromising quality in midfield as well compromising our philosophy.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #118
CCFCDan87 said:
So you play with what you have. Basic skills to management
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SP has, but when you missing a 20-goal-a-season striker, with no adequate replacement, you're going to feel it and struggle, look v Orient, Philliskirk should've scored, if Clarke was there, you couldn't help but think he would've scored, we would've been 1-0 up and that's the difference.

SP needs the summer to get rid of certain players whilst bringing in players of his own so he can make his team in his image.

Didn't help that the 10 point deduction killed the season meaning in effect, we had nothing to play for.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #119
Got To Agree:claping hands::claping hands::blue:
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
SP has, but when you missing a 20-goal-a-season striker, with no adequate replacement, you're going to feel it and struggle, look v Orient, Philliskirk should've scored, if Clarke was there, you couldn't help but think he would've scored, we would've been 1-0 up and that's the difference.

SP needs the summer to get rid of certain players whilst bringing in players of his own so he can make his team in his image.

Didn't help that the 10 point deduction killed the season meaning in effect, we had nothing to play for.
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #120
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
What we have got is a good set of midfielders, Fleck, Moussa, Barton, Thomas and Jennings (overall he's a good season) .[/b]
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There is no evidence that is a good set of midfielders. Only moussa has really looked good and then only in spells. Any team with fleck and Barton in midfield will always struggle.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #121
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
SP has, but when you missing a 20-goal-a-season striker, with no adequate replacement, you're going to feel it and struggle, look v Orient, Philliskirk should've scored, if Clarke was there, you couldn't help but think he would've scored, we would've been 1-0 up and that's the difference.

SP needs the summer to get rid of certain players whilst bringing in players of his own so he can make his team in his image.

Didn't help that the 10 point deduction killed the season meaning in effect, we had nothing to play for.
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Unfortunately that juicy deduction was self inflicted by these God-given owners of ours.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #122
So you all would have played how?
Play with what you've got so our only goal scorer was injured our next top scorer was Baker so you put him up front with another striker and play 4-4-2 but our midfielder with the most assists is now up front so doesn't score so you drop him for not scoring and change the team yet again we needed a goal scorer in what ever formation we played and we never had one no money and an embargo put a stop to that, Don't think any other manager could have done any better with what we have.
Nick said:
Exactly, I was saying the same when it was Thorn and it was the "hands are tied" etc.

If you don't have the big striker who can hold it up and excels being on his own up top then surely you change the tactic to suit the players that are available? Rather than play the same tactic and wonder why the other players can't do it as well?

We are in league one, not the champions league. We are under a transfer embargo, we play on shit pitches.

We have to adjust play to suit conditions, players available and opposition. We can't keep saying "But we want to play like Barcelona like we do in training" on a boggy pitch in December at Crawley can we?
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 30, 2013
  • #123
Grendel said:
There is no evidence that is a good set of midfielders. Only moussa has really looked good and then only in spells. Any team with fleck and Barton in midfield will always struggle.
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Guess that's what Doncaster thought :\

I'm not going to change your mind, but I'll ask this question:

Who do you consider to be better:

Fleck, Barton and another CM (e.g. Thomas) or a combination of; Ball, Cody, Wilson or Philliskirk?
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2013
  • #124
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Guess that's what Doncaster thought :\

I'm not going to change your mind, but I'll ask this question:

Who do you consider to be better:

Fleck, Barton and another CM (e.g. Thomas) or a combination of; Ball, Cody, Wilson or Philliskirk?
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Didn't think you'd answer that, wonder why? - to Grendel.

For all the people moan about SP's 4-5-1, providing 'facts', that aren't actually facts why we shouldn't play 4-5-1, do not seem to come up with an alternative, I just don't see the logic in playing 2 strikers who aren't good enough at the expense at a good midfielder, especially when were short on strikers, yet flooded with midfielders, in quality and quantity.

If Clarke was fully fit for every game, and the same results happend, I'd be slightly worried about SP, but, you only have to go on the facts to see how important Clarke was, the fact this season is that, as SP pointed out, we've been too reliant on 3 players to score goals, 1 left in Jan, the other hasn't been particularly consistent in scoring since November-December 2012 and the other got injured in February, does it come as a surprise we struggled? You're either: naive, or stupid. Even before you factor in the -10 points.

I'm positive that SP will be a good manager for CCFC, he has a philosophy and a system he wants to implement, a system I like in all aspects, now, he needs the time to put his plans into place and the funding for him to bring in the quality players he needs in those weak areas of the team i.e. CB, RM/LM and ST to start. Like I said earlier, managers chat BS in public, it's behind closed doors is what matters and unfortunately for us, we don't know what goes on, so therefore, we can't judge him. In public, he said McSheff was excellent, next game, dropped, never to return.
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #125
Bump . interesting to look back
 

harvey098

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #126
Haha good find
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #127
Grendel said:
There is no evidence that is a good set of midfielders. Only moussa has really looked good and then only in spells. Any team with fleck and Barton in midfield will always struggle.
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Fleck??
 
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CCFC_Charlie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #128
This thread is hilarious.
 
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SavageCovCity

New Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #129
Lmfao! Caught with there pants down... Name and shame
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #130
He actually said we were poor in the first half, held our own in the second and came to life for the last 20 minutes.

The excellent was more to do with overall attitude this season.

The only people talking rubbish are the ones at the start of the thread telling Pressley to do one!
 
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CovFan

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #131
Hobo said:
He actually said we were poor in the first half, held our own in the second and came to life for the last 20 minutes.

The excellent was more to do with overall attitude this season.

The only people talking rubbish are the ones at the start of the thread telling Pressley to do one!
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Look at the date of the first post.
 
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Snozz_is_god

New Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #132
Grendel said:
There is no evidence that is a good set of midfielders. Only moussa has really looked good and then only in spells. Any team with fleck and Barton in midfield will always struggle.
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proof that Grendel only tells half truths and the psgm1 isn't missed one little bit.
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #133
Snozz_is_god said:
proof that Grendel only tells half truths and the psgm1 isn't missed one little bit.
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"half truths"? Don't be silly, expressing an opinion is neither a truth nor a falsehood. And picking on one person and judging them when you have the benefit of hindsight is hardly fair.
 
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Huckerby

Guest
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #134
What an absolute joke! I smiled after reading the first and second post because I thought it was really sarcastic!!!

Genuine disbelief that people are saying we'd be better without him. We're lucky to have such a gem of a manager who is so committed to the cause, and idiots like you don't deserve him
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #135
mrtrench said:
"half truths"? Don't be silly, expressing an opinion is neither a truth nor a falsehood. And picking on one person and judging them when you have the benefit of hindsight is hardly fair.
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People tend to miss the fact that Grendel was right about Pressley at the beginning of the thread when lots wanted him sacked.

Full of fucking idiots this place.
 
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Huckerby

Guest
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #136
Oh haha just saw the date of the original post. Hold my hands up, my bad.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #137
I have to hold my hand up and say that I was one of those who said, when Elvis was appointed, "Who the hell is Steven Pressley?". ointlaugh:
Although I never said he should go, I feel an apology is in order for doubting someone whom I knew nothing about as a manager.
 

Gint11

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #138
To be fair, after watching us at Walsall last season getting trounced 4-0 I was wanting him out although I still knew it wasn't his team yet. He has won me over easily, well he did once we got the 10 points back.
 

hutch1972

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #139
I was one of those who started to read the thread without looking at the date, nearly f.....g fell off my seat:facepalm:. Great substitution yesterday and perfectly timed . I know AB didn't do much but the game changed the second he came on, and for whatever reason spurred the team to a fantastic half hour of total domination.
 
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Skyblue4u

New Member
  • Jan 5, 2014
  • #140
I was far from convinced about Pressley but I'm delighted about being proved wrong and will gladly eat a ton of humble pie. Haven't seen Any fans from his previous club gloating about him leaving them for us for a while now, wonder why?
 
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