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quinn1971

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #36
Can't see why he needs the one on one meeting tomorrow.He must know by now the players who he wants to keep.He's already said some are not good enough.Be interesting to see what players actually want to stay with the club in the mess it is.Think he knows more than he's letting on.He let slip on cwr that we can still sign players but not officially.He said he knows the targets he's after and would be able to get a players handshake and take things from there.
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Bluegloucester

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #37
quinn1971 said:
Can't see why he needs the one on one meeting tomorrow.He must know by now the players who he wants to keep.He's already said some are not good enough.Be interesting to see what players actually want to stay with the club in the mess it is.Think he knows more than he's letting on.He let slip on cwr that we can still sign players but not officially.He said he knows the targets he's after and would be able to get a players handshake and take things from there.
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The meetings are not one on one, Fisher and Waggot are attending.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #38
quinn1971 said:
Can't see why he needs the one on one meeting tomorrow.He must know by now the players who he wants to keep.He's already said some are not good enough.Be interesting to see what players actually want to stay with the club in the mess it is.Think he knows more than he's letting on.He let slip on cwr that we can still sign players but not officially.He said he knows the targets he's after and would be able to get a players handshake and take things from there.
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Like we did with James Collins and David Syers last summer .

One promoted as champion today and the other in the Play-offs:thinking about::facepalm:
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #39
quinn1971 said:
Can't see why he needs the one on one meeting tomorrow.He must know by now the players who he wants to keep.He's already said some are not good enough.Be interesting to see what players actually want to stay with the club in the mess it is.Think he knows more than he's letting on.He let slip on cwr that we can still sign players but not officially.He said he knows the targets he's after and would be able to get a players handshake and take things from there.
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You are right thag he will already know who he wants to keep but I still think the one to ones are the right and proper, thing to do, to sit down and tell a player why he isn't in his plans, thank him for his hard work, etc.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #40
wingy said:
Like we did with James Collins and David Syers last summer .

One promoted as champion today and the other in the Play-offs:thinking about::facepalm:
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It did sound a bit deja vu He even said himself " did i just say that" .
 

Paxman II

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #41
Pressley is a nice chap by all accounts and it is too early to be calling for his head. However I'm in the camp that believes he should never have been appointed to begin with.
I think he will ultimately fail at this club. I think he says what he believes in his interviews and do not think it's public and private opinion. Sometimes there is a gut reaction to managers and based on experience to date as with Thorn he is never ever going to cut it at the management helm here. I don't want another season (should we get the chance of having one!) where we are scuppered 10 games in again before we do something about it. I just sense that with Pressley. He arrived and immediately said he had to change things about how we played, tweak this and tweak that, play like he wants. OK fine but would you have done that to a team, through no fault of their own had just lost a successful manager, who had taken them from a disastrous start to the cusp of the playoffs with the best away record in the league? Pressley does indeed live on another planet. He speaks a lot of hot air. His decisions so far have puzzled me regarding team selection and substitutions. Poor at best. He sounds so naïve when referring to 'all things SISU' and Joy Sepella that this guy is definitely not capable of self thinking on a strong level, a vital asset of his job. If this football club is going anywhere we better get a strong and experienced man in ready for next season.
The only thing that can change my mind would be a 10 game unbeaten start next season. I'll give him that time and hope it will not place us at the exact same position we were in this season having to come from behind.
If I was in charge though, he would be gone.
 

Otis

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #42
If any takeover were to happen I think he may well be gone.
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #43
Paxman II said:
Pressley is a nice chap by all accounts and it is too early to be calling for his head. However I'm in the camp that believes he should never have been appointed to begin with.
I think he will ultimately fail at this club. I think he says what he believes in his interviews and do not think it's public and private opinion. Sometimes there is a gut reaction to managers and based on experience to date as with Thorn he is never ever going to cut it at the management helm here. I don't want another season (should we get the chance of having one!) where we are scuppered 10 games in again before we do something about it. I just sense that with Pressley. He arrived and immediately said he had to change things about how we played, tweak this and tweak that, play like he wants. OK fine but would you have done that to a team, through no fault of their own had just lost a successful manager, who had taken them from a disastrous start to the cusp of the playoffs with the best away record in the league? Pressley does indeed live on another planet. He speaks a lot of hot air. His decisions so far have puzzled me regarding team selection and substitutions. Poor at best. He sounds so naïve when referring to 'all things SISU' and Joy Sepella that this guy is definitely not capable of self thinking on a strong level, a vital asset of his job. If this football club is going anywhere we better get a strong and experienced man in ready for next season.
The only thing that can change my mind would be a 10 game unbeaten start next season. I'll give him that time and hope it will not place us at the exact same position we were in this season having to come from behind.
If I was in charge though, he would be gone.
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I agree Pax- the only mitigation is that he hasn't had the 20+ goal a season centre forward called Clarke and the left back Adams who I think has been a bigger miss than we all perhaps realise.
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #44
Paxman II said:
Pressley is a nice chap by all accounts and it is too early to be calling for his head. However I'm in the camp that believes he should never have been appointed to begin with.
I think he will ultimately fail at this club. I think he says what he believes in his interviews and do not think it's public and private opinion. Sometimes there is a gut reaction to managers and based on experience to date as with Thorn he is never ever going to cut it at the management helm here. I don't want another season (should we get the chance of having one!) where we are scuppered 10 games in again before we do something about it. I just sense that with Pressley. He arrived and immediately said he had to change things about how we played, tweak this and tweak that, play like he wants. OK fine but would you have done that to a team, through no fault of their own had just lost a successful manager, who had taken them from a disastrous start to the cusp of the playoffs with the best away record in the league? Pressley does indeed live on another planet. He speaks a lot of hot air. His decisions so far have puzzled me regarding team selection and substitutions. Poor at best. He sounds so naïve when referring to 'all things SISU' and Joy Sepella that this guy is definitely not capable of self thinking on a strong level, a vital asset of his job. If this football club is going anywhere we better get a strong and experienced man in ready for next season.
The only thing that can change my mind would be a 10 game unbeaten start next season. I'll give him that time and hope it will not place us at the exact same position we were in this season having to come from behind.
If I was in charge though, he would be gone.
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Can see your point.But why 10 games.I think we expect too much.14 whatever managers in 14 years.if we had stuck with Adams, Coleman, or dowie for longer we wouldn't even be in this league.we bring a new manager in and expect him to wave the magic wand and everything will be ok.i can't stand Neil warnock but he's right when he said it takes at least 2 seasons for a manger to put a decent team together and turn them into a good side.Give pressley the time he needs.what have we got to lose.people saying he should be sacked after 10 games isn't going to help us.its what we've done for the last 14 years and look where its got us.
 

Paxman II

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #45
I agree about Clarke missing but he said himself he thought McDonald did not fit into how he wants to play. The guys a natural poacher regardless of how he he traps a ball! He said McDonald would benefit enormously where he played with a big man up front (Fergie/Wallace style) So why then does he not give that a go today at least and send one of our centre backs like Wood in a CF (usually very effective when in the penalty box) and stick McDonald alongside him? I'd have given that a go today with nothing to lose. he had wide players in Baker and Bell to feed it all day and instead crosses went in and nobody was there. I want a strong thinking man who sees a much bigger picture who can turn muck into brass.
 
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CCFC_Charlie

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #46
15 managers in 12 years and now we want our current one out after 7 weeks?
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #47
Paxman II said:
I agree about Clarke missing but he said himself he thought McDonald did not fit into how he wants to play. The guys a natural poacher regardless of how he he traps a ball! He said McDonald would benefit enormously where he played with a big man up front (Fergie/Wallace style) So why then does he not give that a go today at least and send one of our centre backs like Wood in a CF (usually very effective when in the penalty box) and stick McDonald alongside him? I'd have given that a go today with nothing to lose. he had wide players in Baker and Bell to feed it all day and instead crosses went in and nobody was there. I want a strong thinking man who sees a much bigger picture who can turn muck into brass.
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Who would you get in if you could.Id have gone for Phil brown out of the last applicants but alot didn't seem keen on him.Can't see us attracting too many managers who are qualified to get us out of this league with the mess were in.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #48
CCFC_Charlie said:
15 managers in 12 years and now we want our current one out after 7 weeks?
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I was nearly right.how can we expect to do anything with that record
 

Paxman II

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #49
Time? That argument is bull shit. Did Robins have time to get things going? He hit the ground running and was successful If you are good at your job then there is no reason to think you need extended time. Billy Davies has turned it around on returning to Forest. Yes time to develop the whole structure and stabled direction you want to take it but if by time you mean 2 years before you expect to see winning results then that's bull. The job is not rocket science. It's 11 v 11 and you can coach them to win more often than not if you have it in you and given at least a few decent players. Pressley has few decent players....the very ones who were so successful under Robins.
 

Paxman II

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #50
quinn1971 said:
I was nearly right.how can we expect to do anything with that record
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Yes but look behind those headlines a bit. Thorn? Dowie sacked too soon? Coleman hopeless? TBH there's always a reason. It does not matter a git how many we have had, what matters is getting the right guy. Our board have been woeful for the most part in picking them, that's why we've had so many. Robins was the first one we got right for a very long time.
 

Paxman II

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #51
quinn1971 said:
Who would you get in if you could.Id have gone for Phil brown out of the last applicants but alot didn't seem keen on him.Can't see us attracting too many managers who are qualified to get us out of this league with the mess were in.
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I'll see who is available in the close season but it wouldn't be anyone from Falkirk in the Scottish league!
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #52
Paxman II said:
Time? That argument is bull shit. Did Robins have time to get things going? He hit the ground running and was successful If you are good at your job then there is no reason to think you need extended time. Billy Davies has turned it around on returning to Forest. Yes time to develop the whole structure and stabled direction you want to take it but if by time you mean 2 years before you expect to see winning results then that's bull. The job is not rocket science. It's 11 v 11 and you can coach them to win more often than not if you have it in you and given at least a few decent players. Pressley has few decent players....the very ones who were so successful under Robins.
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Good point but robins and Daniel's bought players in straight away.pressley's had to take over team that's had no goal scorer and players not good enough.And not been able to sign anyone.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #53
Paxman II said:
I'll see who is available in the close season but it wouldn't be anyone from Falkirk in the Scottish league!
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Not a great place to be looking our chosen one is it.
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #54
Paxman II said:
Time? That argument is bull shit. Did Robins have time to get things going? He hit the ground running and was successful If you are good at your job then there is no reason to think you need extended time. Billy Davies has turned it around on returning to Forest. Yes time to develop the whole structure and stabled direction you want to take it but if by time you mean 2 years before you expect to see winning results then that's bull. The job is not rocket science. It's 11 v 11 and you can coach them to win more often than not if you have it in you and given at least a few decent players. Pressley has few decent players....the very ones who were so successful under Robins.
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Rob s first 7 league games - won 2 drawn 2 lost 3

Pressley first 7 games - won 3 drawn 2 lost 2

Robins already had DMC, pressley lost Clarke after one match. Robins immediately brought in Moussa, bailey, Reckord and Henderson, pressleys brought in no one.

The results had started to tail off and goals started to dry up for Robins when DMc left.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #55
quinn1971 said:
Not a great place to be looking our chosen one is it.
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Yes...draw the line at Aberdeen ;-)
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #56
SkyblueBazza said:
Yes...draw the line at Aberdeen ;-)
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They had a young manager once....Alex something...whatever happend to him.
 
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_brian_

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #57
quinn1971 said:
They had a young manager once....Alex something...whatever happend to him.
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Ended up at Manchester United, I think you'll find!
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #58
_brian_ said:
Ended up at Manchester United, I think you'll find!
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Didn't for much there though did he
 
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williesdonkeykick

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #59
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
He was an example of most most managers talking shit. Robinson at MK did it to us, Crawley's to us, Bury's AM to us... Loads of managers do it, to either; boost players' confidence or take blame off their shoulders, PUBLICALLY, but in private, they'd 'grill 'em'. Warnock was one of he worst people for it, he's been successful.
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Good post, which applies in the "real world" too! I had a manager who said to me in private " if you cock up I will support you in public, but in private I will kick your arse". Boy did he do both! Did I cock up again very often? NO. Did my career and further education go from strength to strength with this manager? YES. did I respect and give my all for him? YES. There's a message in there somewhere.
 

TheParsonsHose

Member
  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #60
The pressley out brigade are embarrasing.
 

im-confused

Member
  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #61
I don't give a shit what he says in a press conference. It's how he gets the team playing next season that I'm interested in.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #62
wingy said:
Like we did with James Collins and David Syers last summer .

One promoted as champion today and the other in the Play-offs:thinking about::facepalm:
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Funny that and the manager sacked after SUSU made him miss out in them and before he was allowed to sign DMC.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #63
stupot07 said:
Rob s first 7 league games - won 2 drawn 2 lost 3

Pressley first 7 games - won 3 drawn 2 lost 2

Robins already had DMC, pressley lost Clarke after one match. Robins immediately brought in Moussa, bailey, Reckord and Henderson, pressleys brought in no one.

The results had started to tail off and goals started to dry up for Robins when DMc left.
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Good post.....
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Apr 27, 2013
  • #64
Paxman II said:
Yes but look behind those headlines a bit. Thorn? Dowie sacked too soon? Coleman hopeless? TBH there's always a reason. It does not matter a git how many we have had, what matters is getting the right guy. Our board have been woeful for the most part in picking them, that's why we've had so many. Robins was the first one we got right for a very long time.
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What did our board do then
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 28, 2013
  • #65
dongonzalos said:
Funny that and the manager sacked after SUSU made him miss out in them and before he was allowed to sign DMC.
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LOL you are funny -- you do make me laugh.
 
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CCFC_Charlie

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  • Apr 28, 2013
  • #66
We were awful under Robins when McGoldrick didn't turn up - home games against Preston, Shrewsbury, Notts County, MK Dons etc. for example
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2013
  • #67
Paxman II said:
I agree about Clarke missing but he said himself he thought McDonald did not fit into how he wants to play. The guys a natural poacher regardless of how he he traps a ball! He said McDonald would benefit enormously where he played with a big man up front (Fergie/Wallace style) So why then does he not give that a go today at least and send one of our centre backs like Wood in a CF (usually very effective when in the penalty box) and stick McDonald alongside him? I'd have given that a go today with nothing to lose. he had wide players in Baker and Bell to feed it all day and instead crosses went in and nobody was there. I want a strong thinking man who sees a much bigger picture who can turn muck into brass.
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Hammering a manager for not playing a big man up front is one thing, admitting that he doesn't have one in the squad is quite another. But lambasting a manager and then suggesting that he should select Richard Wood as a centre forward really is in a class of its own :facepalm:
 

covcity4life

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  • Apr 28, 2013
  • #68
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Hammering a manager for not playing a big man up front is one thing, admitting that he doesn't have one in the squad is quite another. But lambasting a manager and then suggesting that he should select Richard Wood as a centre forward really is in a class of its own :facepalm:
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Hahaha wood upfront loool
 

philmcc

Member
  • Apr 28, 2013
  • #69
CCFC_Charlie said:
We were awful under Robins when McGoldrick didn't turn up - home games against Preston, Shrewsbury, Notts County, MK Dons etc. for example
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Exactly, I think Robins has been given far too much credit. He got lucky that an Andy Thorn
signing was scoring for fun whilst here, and when DM left, Leon Clarke continued in the same vein. Robins probably recognized the weaknesses and got out at the right time. Pressley hasn't had either of those players to work with since he took charge...plus he has had to try and pick up the pieces of the ten point reduction etc. It's too soon to want SP out, people should give the guy a break.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Apr 28, 2013
  • #70
Grendel said:
Pressley took over with the club at a low ebb and also has had far more injuries crtitically to the leading scorer

The players at least were motivated to fight back and achieve a draw unlike the pitiful surrenders witnessed under thorn and Coleman when the season was over

Truth is the squad is poor just because they play for Coventry does not make them good.

He has had far more difficult circumstances than any I can remember.

Criticism at this stage is premature.
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Yep. That's the way I see it. I'm not entirely happy with the new manager but for heavens sake. Give the bloke a chance.
 
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