covboy1987
Well-Known Member
Surprised nobody had mentioned the write up in the telegraph about the fans in general did not blame SP for the poor season
Surprised nobody had mentioned the write up in the telegraph about the fans in general did not blame SP for the poor season
If we had a better manager we wouldn't have had such a poor season
Have you got concrete evidence for that ?
you do know we were i the bottom 4 when SP was sacked ?
we won 13 league games all season........5 of those were in TM's 13 games in charge.........SP won 7 out of 33.
Even i agree with Nick......Its pretty safe to assume this one
Surprised nobody had mentioned the write up in the telegraph about the fans in general did not blame SP for the poor season
Wooah steady on, I completely agree with the sentiment but my point is that when Nick { the sit on the fence, Nah fuck off does he really } the moderator doesn't agree with your take on things he virtually demands everything in writing to prove your point of view !
Wooah steady on, I completely agree with the sentiment but my point is that when Nick { the sit on the fence, Nah fuck off does he really } the moderator doesn't agree with your take on things he virtually demands everything in writing to prove your point of view !
Oh dear, I think it's a bit different to what I asked you for.Have you got concrete evidence for that ?
What a bastard, asking for the facts you base your statements on.Wooah steady on, I completely agree with the sentiment but my point is that when Nick { the sit on the fence, Nah fuck off does he really } the moderator doesn't agree with your take on things he virtually demands everything in writing to prove your point of view !
Oh dear, I think it's a bit different to what I asked you for.
The fact that somebody who often disagrees with me posted evidence evidence straight away sums it up.
The game is a simple one which is over complicated by people like Pressley, get the ball into the opposition goal you don't need to make 100 passes first when two can do it quicker. Under him the defenders had the ball in our half most of the time passing to each other until they lost it and then the opposition had the ball near our goal, Mowbray gets them to move the ball forward quicker and more purpose then if you lose the ball you can get it back in their half.
Are you Aidy Boothroyd?
Yes you have got me!
what I am trying to say is even the teams that passed and passed like Barcelona have had to change and are moving the ball forward more quickly, he was trying to play a ball retention game with players who didn't have the required skills to do it. Put simply who would you rather be Arsenal who over pass in third or Chelsea who play a bit more direct in first?
Anyone who thinks Pressley was at fault clearly has no indication of the what was going on behind the scenes, which in turn has been documented since, but I was the first on here to point out to many that Waggott was chief wheeler dealer and pressley was yes sir, Pressley did not give authorisation of the sale of Wilson ( he tried making out he did in the fans forum) but fact is he refused the sale.
Its funny how at one stage everyone had their cocks in their hands saying how we was playing some of the best football in years, Pressley then had his tools taken away in the summer and the rest is history.
The man was given no chance with the inadequate replacements to carry out his duties, and sequences changed with divides in the playing staff,still I must be talking out my backside again like the comments Waggot was doing the deals, like the council were secretly doing the dirty behind the clubs back, both of which become public knowledge later on.
Anyone who thinks Pressley was at fault clearly has no indication of the what was going on behind the scenes, which in turn has been documented since, but I was the first on here to point out to many that Waggott was chief wheeler dealer and pressley was yes sir, Pressley did not give authorisation of the sale of Wilson ( he tried making out he did in the fans forum) but fact is he refused the sale.
Its funny how at one stage everyone had their cocks in their hands saying how we was playing some of the best football in years, Pressley then had his tools taken away in the summer and the rest is history.
The man was given no chance with the inadequate replacements to carry out his duties, and sequences changed with divides in the playing staff,still I must be talking out my backside again like the comments Waggot was doing the deals, like the council were secretly doing the dirty behind the clubs back, both of which become public knowledge later on.
It's no secret waggot was involved in transfers it was openly stated when thorn was manager but he was when Pressley had better players at his disposal as well.
It's not unusual. Happens at Newcastle and when Alan Irvine managed West Brom he had no say in signings at all.
Fact is the tactics deployed were very poor. Basic errors defensively and a policy of narrow midfield which gave no service to forwards.
It doesn't matter about the context of the set up if the manager is not good enough anyway - and he wasn't good enough.
I don't think retention is necessarily the problem. It is more about the awareness of where you want to play your football and giving yourself the outlets to do it.
you cannot play an effective passing game without movement and the momentum to go forward. On occasions that the ball needs to go backwards it should be done with an awareness that that is the best option to open up forward play. The hard work is running off the ball, the ball player should always have at least two options for open passes. Triangles, one and two touches, the passing needs momentum and a fluidity, an alert awareness. Watch Messi he often has two players on his back and still wants the ball only to pass it straight back first touch; but he has just dragged two players three yards out of position and created a little hole for some one to run into and the ball player now has that new option.
Pressley's tactical awareness can be summed up by his attempt at playing 5-3-2 with the squad we had, having never previously used the formation/system in his career and quite clearly picking it up after watching LVG and Holland during the World Cup. He tried copying it without properly implementing the style of play or player instructions that are needed to go with it. Sixteen matches of the season more or less wasted to that system. The idea that ball retention/possession based play was the main part of his plan is questionabl, yes we did try and get the centre halves to pass it out from the back, but as soon as a pass became too hard to attempt or our forward options became limited we'd just launch the ball aimlessly forward. Besides the five month period of '4-4-2 Wilson and Clarke' there wasn't a clear vision he had in terms of a style/type of football he wanted to play.
Its well known he had to tinker his playing style and system due to the insufficient playing staff he was inherited by Waggott due to more cost cutting.
The tactics were naive and negative agreed but were based on ball retention and trying to find a system using the less than adequate squad he was provided with, however this does not take away the fact alot happened behind the scenes which affected playing morale.
End of the day were better off now anyway.
Are you trying to say that we shouldn't have got rid of SP?
Insufficient playing staff? The playing side was good at Northampton. But we had the best strike force by miles. Any club would have loved to have had them. We had midfielders scoring goals. Defence? Don't think we had one. This cost us badly. But instead of tinkering with the defence we went full out defensively. We should have been top 6 minimum with the squad we had. Then he lost our strikers. This was when he was shown to be clueless to most. Having games without even having a shot on target but saying we bossed the game? What a joke. And a managers job isn't just choosing players, picking which players play and what formation is used. A major part is keeping morale as good as you can. Some players need a quiet word. Some need a boot up their arse. Team building helps. Having a go at players in public is bad though. Are you saying SP was good at this?
One more thing. If his squad was so poor how did TM turn things around and save us from relegation?
Are you trying to say that we shouldn't have got rid of SP?
Insufficient playing staff? The playing side was good at Northampton. But we had the best strike force by miles. Any club would have loved to have had them. We had midfielders scoring goals. Defence? Don't think we had one. This cost us badly. But instead of tinkering with the defence we went full out defensively. We should have been top 6 minimum with the squad we had. Then he lost our strikers. This was when he was shown to be clueless to most. Having games without even having a shot on target but saying we bossed the game? What a joke. And a managers job isn't just choosing players, picking which players play and what formation is used. A major part is keeping morale as good as you can. Some players need a quiet word. Some need a boot up their arse. Team building helps. Having a go at players in public is bad though. Are you saying SP was good at this?
One more thing. If his squad was so poor how did TM turn things around and save us from relegation?
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