Pressley has to go now (1 Viewer)

Grendel · Nov 29, 2014

This can't carry on. The Swanson 15 cameo aside that was dire. Walsall are a team on a shoestring budget and would only dream of having players like nouble Madine Johnson O Brian and Swanson.

There is zero intensity no width no movement no obvious set piece routines just turgid football.

This seriously can't carry on. I don't care about entertainment if we are succesful but this is dire and we can't win.

Put him out of out misery now

Jack Griffin · Nov 29, 2014

Grendel said:
This can't carry on. The Swanson 15 cameo aside that was dire. Walsall are a team on a shoestring budget and would only dream of having players like nouble Madine Johnson O Brian and Swanson.

There is zero intensity no width no movement no obvious set piece routines just turgid football.

This seriously can't carry on. I don't care about entertainment if we are succesful but this is dire and we can't win.

Put him out of out misery now

Agreeing with Paul Marston finally.

lewys33 · Nov 29, 2014

I keep trying to tell myself "things won't change, who would do better? Who would want to come?" but I'm struggling to find excuses now. 2nd half was alright but generally it was woeful.

KarmicChris · Nov 29, 2014

Walsall are on a shoestring budget, fair enough. But I wouldn't say we are exactly splashing the cash ourselves. Youth players and loan players everywhere

ecky · Nov 29, 2014

Grendel said:
This can't carry on. The Swanson 15 cameo aside that was dire. Walsall are a team on a shoestring budget and would only dream of having players like nouble Madine Johnson O Brian and Swanson.

There is zero intensity no width no movement no obvious set piece routines just turgid football.

This seriously can't carry on. I don't care about entertainment if we are succesful but this is dire and we can't win.

Put him out of out misery now

Wow Grendel, i have to agree with you.. its like a long slow form of torture watching this crap, like you say we have some average to good players which could be better if we had a half decent manager in charge..

Evo1883 · Nov 29, 2014

The worrying thing is there seems like there is no game plan , no drive to go forward , and it feels as if the players are out there playing because they have to not because they want to .
the footBall im watching is some of the worst i have seen for many a years and i just dont see it improving , yes we have picked up a couple of points lately but its still utter dross

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 29, 2014

Agreed, unfortunately I don't think he will.

I think his job is safe as long as we don't relegated, which as poor as we are I don't think they will.

skybluetony176 · Nov 29, 2014

What a load of bollox. No manager is ever going to succeed as long as SISU are here.

ccfcway · Nov 29, 2014

in the 1st half i found myself deleting emails and reading the news on my phone.

There was a time i wouldnt even go to the toilet in case i missed something, now i am tidying up my inbox mid game.

It really isnt pretty to watch..........this could be excused if it was vaguely effective, but its not.

wingy · Nov 29, 2014

No one understands the strategy ,unfortunately I think I do and that Is " game management ",IE whatever Is required to stop the other side ,,Waste 90 mins a week away.

Evo1883 · Nov 29, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
What a load of bollox. No manager is ever going to succeed as long as SISU are here.

Strange . I seem to remember us looking pretty good under mark robins

Rusty Trombone · Nov 29, 2014

we were chasing shadows for the first half, they made passing look easy on the pitch, there looked a gulf in class and I imagine our team is costing more each week, Pressley doesn't seem capable of turning it around.

ecky · Nov 29, 2014

"we were unfortunate not to win the game"

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 29, 2014

CraigSBA said:
Strange . I seem to remember us looking pretty good under mark robins

Just ignore these idiots and their delusions.

shy_tall_knight · Nov 29, 2014

I think playing Haynes & Reda playing out of position is crazy. What also concerned me especially the first half was when we win the ball our first thought is to go backwards killing any chance of an effective counter attack and allowing the opposition a chance to reorganise. I don't think its just a lack of confidence its a lack of ability also.

Grendel · Nov 29, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
What a load of bollox. No manager is ever going to succeed as long as SISU are here.

Robbins had a 50% win ratio - Walsall have Bonsor as their owner who they despise and the manager works in very restricted circumstances but he deals with it.

Jack Griffin · Nov 29, 2014

CraigSBA said:
Strange . I seem to remember us looking pretty good under mark robins

Scunthorpe just won again.

ccfc unlimited · Nov 29, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
Agreeing with Paul Marston finally.

Paul is a prick with personal grudges

Evo1883 · Nov 29, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
Scunthorpe just won again.

I genuinely believe if we would be in a better position now had robins never left , the team had discipline , bit of swagger and people didnt want to play us ..cantimagine they are too worried about us atm

Grendel · Nov 29, 2014

CraigSBA said:
I genuinely believe if we would be in a better position now had robins never left , the team had discipline , bit of swagger and people didnt want to play us ..cantimagine they are too worried about us atm

Under robins it was starting to work - we'd have been in a far better place.

skybluetony176 · Nov 29, 2014

CraigSBA said:
Strange . I seem to remember us looking pretty good under mark robins

Robbins wasnt here as long as SP thats why. SP had us playing good football for a longer period than Robbins was here last seaon. If Robbins had have been here as long as SP people would have been calling for his head too.

Noggin · Nov 29, 2014

CraigSBA said:
Strange . I seem to remember us looking pretty good under mark robins

Robins was only here for the very beginning of operation devastation before it started to really pay fruit and turn us into a club with no assets, no fans and no hope.

Nonleagueherewecome · Nov 29, 2014

This City side reminds me a bit of the Gary McAllister Leeds side in L1, who were summed up by their defeat to Histon Town on a muddy pitch. Leeds had Snodgrass and Delph in their side, Histon had John Beck as Assistant Manager.

Leeds stuck to their tippy-tappy passing game, mostly side-to-side and in their own half. Histon looked better organised and better motivated, as, judging by results, were the majority of other L1 sides with much smaller budgets that Leeds encountered most weeks in L1. McAllister was sacked just before Christmas and Grayson came in and took them to the play-offs and promotion the following season playing a much tougher, better organised and direct brand of football (witness Preston now-3rd and probably with a not much bigger budget than us; a nasty side to play). Another example is Robins after Thorn and Shaw. We need a manager who organises and demands respect from his players, who knows how to get results in this division, not an ideologue.

I like Pressley as a man, love his passion for the club and I do like passing football, but this is League 1. We need to play effective football-which we often did last season, having Wilson's pace as an outlet for longer balls and counter attacks. The side being so devoid of pace now removes that dimension, and you cannot be an effective side in this division without pace. Or without grit and muscle.

Pressley has had to recruit in horrendous circumstances, but whatever his "miss" rate (and it's high), you have to say that this squad should be performing better than it is-and under a Robins, would probably be 10 places higher in the league, at least. Sadly, I am just about moving around to the view that Pressley does have to go. I probably would still give him until Christmas given that results have picked up slightly, but he has to actually look like he's capable of turning this squar around. At the moment, I don't see how he can be.

Evo1883 · Nov 29, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
Robbins wasnt here as long as SP thats why. SP had us playing good football for a longer period than Robbins was here last seaon. If Robbins had have been here as long as SP people would have been calling for his head too.

Wasnt he playing good football with robins team , we were woeful at the back last season and that hasnt changed much in all fairness , again 13 league wins in 48

Kingokings204 · Nov 29, 2014

Grendel said:
This can't carry on. The Swanson 15 cameo aside that was dire. Walsall are a team on a shoestring budget and would only dream of having players like nouble Madine Johnson O Brian and Swanson.

There is zero intensity no width no movement no obvious set piece routines just turgid football.

This seriously can't carry on. I don't care about entertainment if we are succesful but this is dire and we can't win.

Put him out of out misery now

Grendel I may only ever say this once but I 100% agree with this post so thanks. Saved me doing it.

italiahorse · Nov 29, 2014

I think we have too many loanees which stops our above average players performing as a team.
Sisu's fault not Pressleys as we know he doesn't want them.

wozey · Nov 29, 2014

I have to agree it's time he went I'm struggling to see how he's managed to keep his job this long, his record is appalling and his loans useless to the point he needs to explode into a fit of rage on the radio just to try and get a reaction out of them.

WestEndAgro · Nov 29, 2014

shy_tall_knight said:
I think playing Haynes & Reda playing out of position is crazy. What also concerned me especially the first half was when we win the ball our first thought is to go backwards killing any chance of an effective counter attack and allowing the opposition a chance to reorganise. I don't think its just a lack of confidence its a lack of ability also.

Lack of ability ? "some of theese players have more ability than many in the premiership "

Evo1883 · Nov 29, 2014

I wouldnt even trust pressley with money though , the bloke would buy 11 freddy eastwoods

Grendel · Nov 29, 2014

italiahorse said:
I think we have too many loanees which stops our above average players performing as a team.
Sisu's fault not Pressleys as we know he doesn't want them.

Who were the best players today?

skybluetony176 · Nov 29, 2014

Grendel said:
Robbins had a 50% win ratio - Walsall have Bonsor as their owner who they despise and the manager works in very restricted circumstances but he deals with it.

And if he'd been here as long as SP his record would have been very different .

Kingokings204 · Nov 29, 2014

It all boils down to who for the same money can come in and do a better job? Is there anyone and is it worth it?

Got to say most of our players are championship loaned. Nouble, Madine, Jackson mcquiod, tudgay? All championships players or from those clubs. Most clubs in the division would love these players but they are crap? Why? Is it actually this is their level or lower or don't they care and SP isn't doing the business?

Evo1883 · Nov 29, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
And if he'd been here as long as SP his record would have been very different .

Come on pressley won 3 in the last 11 of the season after robins left

Nonleagueherewecome · Nov 29, 2014

CCFC said:
Agreed, unfortunately I don't think he will.

I think his job is safe as long as we don't relegated, which as poor as we are I don't think they will.

4 year contract means that you're probably right. It's effectively as bad as giving David Bell one

covmark · Nov 29, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
And if he'd been here as long as SP his record would have been very different .

You forgot to put FACT at the end of your post.

How the fuck can you possibly know that.

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