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  • Thread starter Seaside-Skyblue
  • Start date Oct 11, 2014
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Seaside-Skyblue

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...uis-van-gaal-jose-mourinho-coventry-city.html probably should have posted here instead. Again sorry if you've already seen this.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #2
All This is all good and well , but im not concerned who he has been studying , im concerned about 10 wins in the last 42 league games whilst our supporters still see this bloke as a messiah .
i suppose its a point of how far the club has fallen
 

mrtrench

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #3
CraigSBA said:
All This is all good and well , but im not concerned who he has been studying , im concerned about 10 wins in the last 42 league games whilst our supporters still see this bloke as a messiah .
i suppose its a point of how far the club has fallen
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I'm pleased that he is doing this. Becoming excellent at your job is not something that happens by accident. It happens because you think, study and try to learn from others and your own experiences. I have a theory that 90% of people are pretty dumb. Pressley sounds like he's is in the 10% and thus he is almost guaranteed to flourish.

As for the results, who is to say that with any other manager it would only be 5 wins in 42 league games? We aren't really throwing money at him are we?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #4
mrtrench said:
I'm pleased that he is doing this. Becoming excellent at your job is not something that happens by accident. It happens because you think, study and try to learn from others and your own experiences. I have a theory that 90% of people are pretty dumb. Pressley sounds like he's is in the 10% and thus he is almost guaranteed to flourish.

As for the results, who is to say that with any other manager it would only be 5 wins in 42 league games? We aren't really throwing money at him are we?
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Well we will use mark robins as a pointer , had no money either but a 51% win ratio
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #5
He had a better squad full stop cannot really compare the two.

Unfortunately since Mark Robbins left we as a club have only gone backwards when all around us have got stronger.

So when the Messiah went to Huddersfield why did he not turn around there fortunes, surly as a better manager he would have managed that easily oh and he spent plenty of money there.

CraigSBA said:
Well we will use mark robins as a pointer , had no money either but a 51% win ratio
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #6
CraigSBA said:
Well we will use mark robins as a pointer , had no money either but a 51% win ratio
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Myth. Robins had far greater resource.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #7
letsallsingtogether said:
He had a better squad full stop cannot really compare the two.

Unfortunately since Mark Robbins left we as a club have only gone backwards when all around us have got stronger.

So when the Messiah went to Huddersfield why did he not turn around there fortunes, surly as a better manager he would have managed that easily oh and he spent plenty of money there.
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He did well for us , thats all i care about really , and pressley isnt
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #8
fernandopartridge said:
Myth. Robins had far greater resource.
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Where , im guessing that andy thorn had these recources too then as at that time we were in a higher league
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #9
If he's a fan of Strachan and wants to emulate him, then we're f**ked! Nuff said!
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #10
CraigSBA said:
Where , im guessing that andy thorn had these recources too then as at that time we were in a higher league
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It's relative. Robins had decent resource for League One. Thorn had poor resources for Championship standard.


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letsallsingtogether

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #11
Utter bullshit were we promoted under him????
If not he is no better then the rest. Sorry but nearly there is not good enough.
You might as well be 15th as 7th you get the same nothing.


CraigSBA said:
He did well for us , thats all i care about really , and pressley isnt
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #12
letsallsingtogether said:
Utter bullshit were we promoted under him????
If not he is no better then the rest. Sorry but nearly there is not good enough.
You might as well be 15th as 7th you get the same nothing.
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What are you talking about , he had a better record than pressley . We were doing pretty well . Or are you just bothered that i am showing my dislike of steven pressley 10 league wins in 42 , lets suggest thats a season ... Would we be on the verge of relegation on 44 points that we have picked up in the last 42 games .
 

Otis

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #13
letsallsingtogether said:
He had a better squad full stop cannot really compare the two.

Unfortunately since Mark Robbins left we as a club have only gone backwards when all around us have got stronger.

So when the Messiah went to Huddersfield why did he not turn around there fortunes, surly as a better manager he would have managed that easily oh and he spent plenty of money there.
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I am of the opinion that sometimes it is all about being a good fit, same as some players do well at some clubs and at others they don't. McGoldrick for instance.

Sometimes players take to a manager and sometimes they don't. They have to be onboard with the ethic and there needs to be trust and respect.

I think at Huddersfield Robins had a disgruntled dressing room. After Thorn here and his lackadaisical, old pals act. think the players here pretty much all responded well to a strong, disciplined manager and we had more unity as a result.

Look at Gary Johnson. Usually has very good success, but has also had some abject failure on the way too.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #14
Robins took over in september left in february ...won 14 league games .
prelley took over in february until season end ...won 4 in 13

With the same team ?
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #15
Just saying I remember when Gregory was at the Vile,he hailed as the best young manager in football ,yet one season later he disappeared?


So people go on about players being one season wonders the same can be said for managers.

Mind you we ha a cracking record against he Villa while he was there.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #16
letsallsingtogether said:
Just saying I remember when Gregory was at the Vile,he hailed as the best young manager in football ,yet one season later he disappeared?


So people go on about players being one season wonders the same can be said for managers.

Mind you we ha a cracking record against he Villa while he was there.
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We actually did lol , good times
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #17
I think you'll find he never took over until March...
CraigSBA said:
Robins took over in september left in february ...won 14 league games .
prelley took over in february until season end ...won 4 in 13

With the same team ?
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #18
letsallsingtogether said:
I think you'll find he never took over until March...
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Ok , he won 3 in 11 then
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #19
That's better
CraigSBA said:
Ok , he won 3 in 11 then
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stupot07

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #20
CraigSBA said:
Ok , he won 3 in 11 then
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And was missing Clarke for what 7-8 of those games so same team but no striker. Robins had mcgoldrick in his pomp, and then Clarke bang on form. And the 10 point deduction.


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Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #21
stupot07 said:
And was missing Clarke for what 7-8 of those games so same team but no striker. Robins had mcgoldrick in his pomp, and then Clarke bang on form. And the 10 point deduction.


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Had mcgoldrick yes , got the best out of him .. And he bought clarke in on a free .
you would imagine that with the amount of freebies and loans pressley has in he could bring in a striker that could atleast give us half of what clarke mcgoldrick and wilson did .
i mean its not like hes been here 2 years to do what robins did in 2 weeks
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #22
CraigSBA said:
Had mcgoldrick yes , got the best out of him .. And he bought clarke in on a free .
you would imagine that with the amount of freebies and loans pressley has in he could bring in a striker that could atleast give us half of what clarke mcgoldrick and wilson did .
i mean its not like hes been here 2 years to do what robins did in 2 weeks
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Robins wage bill was far higher than Pressley's, he also had more money for signing on bonus's, wages, loan fees as well as taking on higher % of loanees wages, agents fees. I think you're being a bit niaive


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Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #23
stupot07 said:
Robins wage bill was far higher than Pressley's, he also had more money for signing on bonus's, wages, loan fees as well as taking on higher % of loanees wages, agents fees. I think you're being a bit niaive


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Pressley has bought in 9 strikers in his time at the club , that have a collective goal tally of 15 goals combined to date , why on earth do people keep finding an excuse for pressley , his transfer record is abysmal , barring 1 or 2 players .
his lack of plan B is obvious , his inability to change games is for all to be seen . Like i said ...andy thorn (who was terrible ) was given nothing in that final championship season , and he actually did have kids on the bench , some coventry fans are still saying we have a side full of kids ....where ? .
the pressley excuse train will run on and on , granted we may not do better with somebody else , but lets not make out he is the worse off manager in league 1 , when swindon town who look very strong have a 1 million pound less playing budget than us . The pressley love in is tiresome , even if we win todayits to be expected ...its crewe
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #24
Pressley's record is simply not good enough, not only have we not won enough matches the product on the pitch, the home games I have seen is dire, so much so my two grandsons aged 7 & 9, don't want to go anymore.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #25
rupert_bear said:
Pressley's record is simply not good enough, not only have we not won enough matches the product on the pitch, the home games I have seen is dire, so much so my two grandsons aged 7 & 9, don't want to go anymore.
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T....h....a....n....k....y.....o...u
finally
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #26
CraigSBA said:
Pressley has bought in 9 strikers in his time at the club , that have a collective goal tally of 15 goals combined to date , why on earth do people keep finding an excuse for pressley , his transfer record is abysmal , barring 1 or 2 players .
his lack of plan B is obvious , his inability to change games is for all to be seen . Like i said ...andy thorn (who was terrible ) was given nothing in that final championship season , and he actually did have kids on the bench , some coventry fans are still saying we have a side full of kids ....where ? .
the pressley excuse train will run on and on , granted we may not do better with somebody else , but lets not make out he is the worse off manager in league 1 , when swindon town who look very strong have a 1 million pound less playing budget than us . The pressley love in is tiresome , even if we win todayits to be expected ...its crewe
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Depends what you class a kid?

I don't think he's the messiah, his transfers have been largely poor, which you can almost forgive last season as it was clear there was no money and what money there was was being spent on baker, murphy and Clarkes high wages, but to say he hasn't been dealt a shit hand is disingenuous - administration, 2x 10 point deductions, transfer embargo's, playing in front of 2k fans 35 miles away, uncertainty of the clubs long term future, selling his best player in jan and not being replace him.

He's also doing a lot of restructuring behind the scenes for player development.

Interesting Swindon are doing so well and punching above their weight - let's see where they are in April, but if we have a midtable wage budget, we're not miles away from where we should be in the league.

We need to get used to it, because that's pretty much all we have to look forward to for the foreseeable future.


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Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #27
stupot07 said:
Depends what you class a kid?

I don't think he's the messiah, his transfers have been largely poor, which you can almost forgive last season as it was clear there was no money and what money there was was being spent on baker, murphy and Clarkes high wages, but to say he hasn't been dealt a shit hand is disingenuous - administration, 2x 10 point deductions, transfer embargo's, playing in front of 2k fans 35 miles away, uncertainty of the clubs long term future, selling his best player in jan and not being replace him.

He's also doing a lot of restructuring behind the scenes for player development.

Interesting Swindon are doing so well and punching above their weight - let's see where they are in April, but if we have a midtable wage budget, we're not miles away from where we should be in the league.

We need to get used to it, because that's pretty much all we have to look forward to for the foreseeable future.


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swindon finished 6th last season , anyways what will be will be , its clear we are stuck with pressley for a while yet.
edit.they finished 8th
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #28
Can't see Pressley being fired unless there is a change of ownership, then he could be if we don't improve. IMO he needs to get away from this high pressing tactic he seems fixated on, it simply is not working results wise or entertainment wise.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #29
rupert_bear said:
Can't see Pressley being fired unless there is a change of ownership, then he could be if we don't improve. IMO he needs to get away from this high pressing tactic he seems fixated on, it simply is not working results wise or entertainment wise.
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it might not be working , but atleast we were terrific and playing the coventry city way eh
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #30
If it don't improve the fans will get rid of him they always do, 7000 for the Crawley game shows that.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #31
rupert_bear said:
If it don't improve the fans will get rid of him they always do, 7000 for the Crawley game shows that.
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fans are not always wrong though
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #32
CraigSBA said:
fans are not always wrong though
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True, they're not always right either. And despite the low attendance against Crawley we have seen plenty other excuses...sorry I meant reasons () for not going - our owners, the cost and crawley not being a 'big' draw.


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rupert_bear

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #33
We have to give Pressley a bit of slack, he has lost 3 players in 6 months who between them scored over 60 goals always going to be hard to replace.
 
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hill83

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  • Oct 11, 2014
  • #34
The football is shit and it has already made me regret getting a season ticket. Will we come good? Who knows. I'm not slagging Pressley off just yet. But that path for me usually starts with me being annoyed at the managers interviews and I'm already there.
 
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