There's almost a mini league forming of bottom 4 premiership and top 4 Championship driven by money earned through promotion and parachute payments. In reality we are pushing for position 5 and 6 play offs each season now. Autos is now well beyond us unless we get a massive cash injection.I mean this is the nail on the head. I would honestly choose to win the championship and then stay in it the season after. The gulf is ridiculous and causing a real problem. The premier league for the bottom six is just a dogfight with heavy defeat week after week. Not to mention you have VAR. I think it’ll be a matter of time before the top six join a super league and from my perspective, we’ll be better for it.
It depends what is actually meant by Prem standard, could some of them play for Southampton or Sheffield United last year and not look out of place with that level of player, probably.Yeah there's no way Rudoni's Prem standard ffs
A good example of that was with our local lads Evatt & McSheffrey.It depends what is actually meant by Prem standard, could some of them play for Southampton or Sheffield United last year and not look out of place with that level of player, probably.
Having a career and the ability to stay there is different
I don’t think many people would say Southampton or Sheffield United are PL standard either!It depends what is actually meant by Prem standard, could some of them play for Southampton or Sheffield United last year and not look out of place with that level of player, probably.
Agreed. The fact that clubs actively aim to become a yo-yo is understandable, but depressing.There's almost a mini league forming of bottom 4 premiership and top 4 Championship driven by money earned through promotion and parachute payments. In reality we are pushing for position 5 and 6 play offs each season now. Autos is now well beyond us unless we get a massive cash injection.
This is it exactly, I wish people wouldn't post rubbish as if we would win the league if we got promoted. A number of our players are as good or better than some of the recently promoted teams' squadIt depends what is actually meant by Prem standard, could some of them play for Southampton or Sheffield United last year and not look out of place with that level of player, probably.
Having a career and the ability to stay there is different, only a few have done that since we were relegated
A rhetorical question....but can we really say Ipswich are premier league standard? Were Luton and Sheffield United premier league standard last season? Most of the Luton side are the same side that played in the PL last season.
Re: Ipswich, they are probably too good for the championship but not good enough for the Premier league which is why they will drop straight back down.
Yes. By definition, if they’re too good for the Championship, then they are Premier league standard. Staying up is the real challenge, of course.
We’re not at full strength and haven’t been for a while now. When everyone is back, the team will look like a top 6 team in our division.
Yeah I was just carrying on with this debate.I don’t think many people would say Southampton or Sheffield United are PL standard either!
Haji Wright is the only player close at the moment.
Then surely, if a team is not good enough to survive in the Premier league and get relegated then by definition they are not premier league standard either.Yes. By definition, if they’re too good for the Championship, then they are Premier league standard. Staying up is the real challenge, of course.
We’re not at full strength and haven’t been for a while now. When everyone is back, the team will look like a top 6 team in our division.
I'm not even sure we can include Maddison or Wilson, neither were good enough to step straight into PL, which leaves only Dann.Yeah I was just carrying on with this debate.
In that case, we’ve had 3 PL standard players in the last 15 years: Dann, Wilson and Maddison
Then surely, if a team is not good enough to survive in the Premier league and get relegated then by definition they are not premier league standard either.
Yeah I was just carrying on with this debate.
In that case, we’ve had 3 PL standard players in the last 15 years: Dann, Wilson and Maddison
There's almost a mini league forming of bottom 4 premiership and top 4 Championship driven by money earned through promotion and parachute payments. In reality we are pushing for position 5 and 6 play offs each season now. Autos is now well beyond us unless we get a massive cash injection.
Agree a good manager has a major part to play, but both Brentford and Ipswich have a huge financial backing. Sunderland have done really well, this season fair play to them.Ipswich and Sunderland (and Brentford a few years ago) have demonstrated that you can get into that top 4 with very good management
We are 12th in the table and watch our poor defence, weak midfield and largely ineffectual strike force most weeks, that's how.
And yes we have players to come back, as do most teams, let's hope they spark into form quickly.
The bottom line is we bought quantity rather than quality and need major change in the summer before we can seriously challenge.
From the main guy who thought we were poor last night.100% agreed…
Goalkeeper = shit
Defence = shit
Midfield = shit
Strikers = shit
… Yet we stand 1 point from the playoffs.
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