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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Feb 1, 2025
  • #71
What’s great about the Grimes signing is that it’ll push Sheaf further up the pitch to where he’s most effective.

Put that together with Rudoni and our very potent front line (when fit) and we have a very difficult team to beat.


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mmttww

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  • Feb 1, 2025
  • #72
Fergusons_Beard said:
What’s great about the Grimes signing is that it’ll push Sheaf further up the pitch to where he’s most effective.
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Reading what Lampard said about Grimes, it sounds like he thinks Grimes can be effective further fwd so it might be the opposite.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Feb 1, 2025
  • #73
mmttww said:
Reading what Lampard said about Grimes, it sounds like he thinks Grimes can be effective further fwd so it might be the opposite.
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Agreed, Swansea this season have played him deeper, in front of the back 4, and it’s inevitably made his attacking output drop.

Sheaf will almost definitely play when he’s fit and available. The last spot will be between Rudoni and Torp. Though, I wouldn’t discount Rudoni playing a few games at RW to accommodate Wright and EMC in the team too.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 2, 2025
  • #74
There is absolutely no reason to change the current system - it works very well for the squad we have. If it means that talented players like EMC have to sit out then so be it.
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Feb 2, 2025
  • #75
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Away at home to top teams
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Great idea! Play our away games against the top teams at the CBS.

I like your thinking
 
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SkyB

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  • Feb 2, 2025
  • #76
Whilst on paper I really don’t like the look of this team, mainly because it doesn’t include 4 of our best players, it is so ruthlessly efficient at the minute.

I see where they come in like for like but ultimately the incumbents would be extremely hard done by to be dropped.

Doubt we’ll see anything different to a 5 back against Leeds to try and deal with there fire power. I can see Grimes starting ahead of Torp though
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 2, 2025
  • #77
Maybe we see a better version of Sheaf now he doesn't have to wet nurse his midfield partner with Grimes playing...fingers crossed
 

stevefloyd

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  • Feb 2, 2025
  • #78
torchomatic said:
"When fit". Who're going to play in the 15-20 games he misses season after season?
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You're not a fan Torch are you?
 

Boicey

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  • Feb 2, 2025
  • #79
You would be mad to change this winning team much.
Grimes after a week or two, ok.
Putting Sheaf in there as well. Absolutely not.
It would slow us down massively and take out some of the aggression we've been showing.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Feb 2, 2025
  • #80
stevefloyd said:
You're not a fan Torch are you?
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Steve, to be honest I actually don't mind Sheaf at all, but I don't get all the OTT adulation he gets.

The endless excuses too if he has bad games; "he has injections", "he's coming back from injury". On top of that the sheer amount of games he misses every season is unacceptable.

Then there are those who sayl the minute he's fit he should come straight back into the team without having to earn his place. No other player would get that kind of free hit.

If he stays injury free and ups his game, fine.

He shouldn't be captain either.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 2, 2025
  • #81
torchomatic said:
Steve, to be honest I actually don't mind Sheaf at all, but I don't get all the OTT adulation he gets.

The endless excuses too if he has bad games; "he has injections", "he's coming back from injury". On top of that the sheer amount of games he misses every season is unacceptable.

Then there are those who sayl the minute he's fit he should come straight back into the team without having to earn his place. No other player would get that kind of free hit.

If he stays injury free and ups his game, fine.

He shouldn't be captain either.
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Totally agree, you can be the best player in the world but if you're constantly injured its time to maybe look elsewhere and definitely have to fight your way back into a winning team !
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Feb 3, 2025
  • #82
Dovin
MVE Thomas Kitching Bidders
Grimes Rudoni
Torp
BTA Simms Wright
 
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Jcap

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  • Feb 3, 2025
  • #83
Hard to argue for a switch to 4 ATB on current form, but I wonder if FL will use the cup game as an opportunity to give it another go without risking league points?
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #84

3-4-1-2 Formation - Footballizer

The 3-4-1-2 formation is a 3-4-3-based formation setup in football that consists of three central defenders, five midfielders, and two forwards.
www.footballizer.com

Think this formation might suit the squad well for some matches this season.
 

rockwoodfleet

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #85
ccfc1234 said:

3-4-1-2 Formation - Footballizer

The 3-4-1-2 formation is a 3-4-3-based formation setup in football that consists of three central defenders, five midfielders, and two forwards.
www.footballizer.com

Think this formation might suit the squad well for some matches this season.
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This obsession with 4 at the back from some is odd considering we are looking so much better with 5 atm. Why change formation?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #86
rockwoodfleet said:
This obsession with 4 at the back from some is odd considering we are looking so much better with 5 atm. Why change formation?
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Because our two best players don’t fit in it
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #87
shmmeee said:
Because our two best players don’t fit in it
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1. Our two best players can easily fit into a 3ATB system
2. Do we get more points for fitting our best players in the team?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #88
SBT said:
1. Our two best players can easily fit into a 3ATB system
2. Do we get more points for fitting our best players in the team?
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How do you get Haji and EMC into it? Both up front? 343 with Grimes and Sheaf in midfield and drop Rudoni?
 

rockwoodfleet

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #89
shmmeee said:
Because our two best players don’t fit in it
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Fair point but who cares as long as we're winning and stopped shipping goals? EMC is really the only one. Haji can play up front and Sheaf when not injured can play in Allen's roll if he's not on his game. I also think Lampard may have plans to play Grimes in a bit more of an advanced position.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #90
shmmeee said:
How do you get Haji and EMC into it? Both up front? 343 with Grimes and Sheaf in midfield and drop Rudoni?
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I thought you meant Haji and Grimes
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #91
SBT said:
I thought you meant Haji and Grimes
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Grimes hasn’t played a game for us yet. He might end up being but I’ve not seen him in our system to know.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #92
shmmeee said:
Grimes hasn’t played a game for us yet. He might end up being but I’ve not seen him in our system to know.
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With all respect to EMC, I would be more inclined to change a winning lineup for a player who’s consistently played well in literally hundreds of games at this level over a player who’s had less than 10 good Championship games in their entire career.
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #93
SBT said:
I thought you meant Haji and Grimes
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Grimes is our 3rd best midfielder never mind best player
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #94
SBT said:
With all respect to EMC, I would be more inclined to change a winning lineup for a player who’s consistently played well in literally hundreds of games at this level over a player who’s had less than 10 good Championship games in their entire career.
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Him and Haji are our top goal contributors per minute despite their injuries. For me you’ve got to fit both in.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #95
shmmeee said:
Him and Haji are our top goal contributors per minute despite their injuries. For me you’ve got to fit both in.
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I love the idea, but until I see it work in reality then I’m worried it’s all getting a bit ‘Lampard and Gerrard in midfield’. I don’t want to interrupt this good run for any reason at the moment.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #96
SBT said:
I love the idea, but until I see it work in reality then I’m worried it’s all getting a bit ‘Lampard and Gerrard in midfield’. I don’t want to interrupt this good run for any reason at the moment.
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That's exactly the scenario I was just thinking about.
We all want a bigger squad with more quality, well a side effect of that is that good players have to miss out.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #97
SBT said:
I love the idea, but until I see it work in reality then I’m worried it’s all getting a bit ‘Lampard and Gerrard in midfield’. I don’t want to interrupt this good run for any reason at the moment.
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That’s fair. I’ve said I wouldn’t change it until the form drops or a player gets injured. But given a blank slate I think you’ve got to fit them in. I’m interested to see how we get on with it.
 

Nick

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #98
shmmeee said:
How do you get Haji and EMC into it? Both up front? 343 with Grimes and Sheaf in midfield and drop Rudoni?
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Why are you so desperate to change something that's working?
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #99
Nick said:
Why are you so desperate to change something that's working?
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shmmeee said:
. I’ve said I wouldn’t change it until the form drops or a player gets injured. But given a blank slate I think you’ve got to fit them in. I’m interested to see how we get on with it.
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ovduk78

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #100
shmmeee said:
Him and Haji are our top goal contributors per minute despite their injuries. For me you’ve got to fit both in.
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If their best position is the same position then you have to pick 1 and put the other on the bench. I am not convinced Haji is a central striker and would rather have Ellis there anyway. If Haji can play on the right then EMC can play on the left but I'm not sure if Haji has ever played there.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #101
ovduk78 said:
If their best position is the same position then you have to pick 1 and put the other on the bench. I am not convinced Haji is a central striker and would rather have Ellis there anyway. If Haji can play on the right then EMC can play on the left but I'm not sure if Haji has ever played there.
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He hadn’t really played on the left until we did it tbf. Haji is an interesting one because Simms and BTA are working well and he’s not really right for either the target man or second striker type roles. I’d expect him to come in for BTA, but I could see and argument you want him doing the Simms role and allowing BTA to drop deeper too.
 

JSL

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #102
Can someone please clarify with me what players you would expect a 433 to use. Middle 3 of a 6 and two 8s? Two 6s and one 8? Front 3 of a central striker and 2 wingers?

We are currently playing a 352 to good effect. Switching to 433 has alarm bells ringing for me that we would be too exposed, as was the case until recently hence why we were conceding so many goals.

Are we expecting that playing Grimes as a 6 is going to allow us to go back to a 433?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #103
JSL said:
Can someone please clarify with me what players you would expect a 433 use. Middle 3 of a 6 and two 8s? Two 6s and one 8? Front 3 of a central striker and 2 wingers?

We are currently playing a 352 to good effect. Switching to 433 has alarm bells ringing for me that we would be too exposed, as was the case until recently hence why we were conceding so may goals.

Are we expecting that playing Grimes as a 6 is going to allow us to go back to a 433?
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Its Lampards normal system so a 6 and two 8s and a central striker and two wide forwards. As for personnel that’s up for debate couple of options discussed:

Front 3:

EMC Wright Saka
Wright Simms Saka
EMC Simms Wright

Midfield 3:

Rudoni Grimes Torp
Rudoni Sheaf Grimes

Seems to be the main options.
 
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JSL

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #104
Yeah. Thats my thoughts, but the only difference is we now have Grimes instead of Eccles. Is changing one player going to make it work effectively?
 

torchomatic

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  • Feb 4, 2025
  • #105
shmmeee said:
How do you get Haji and EMC into it? Both up front? 343 with Grimes and Sheaf in midfield and drop Rudoni?
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Why drop Rudoni? Sheaf getting a free pass again?
 
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