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Speng

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #106
He don't live to far away from me , I'll go and have a chat with him ...
 

higgs

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #107
Speng said:
He don't live to far away from me , I'll go and have a chat with him ...
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Have a word mate

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skybluedan

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #108
Speng said:
He don't live to far away from me , I'll go and have a chat with him ...
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Good if he does leave you can shit on his doorstep
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #109
Would be better off going down the route Wilson did. Get games in and start scoring at this level then move up to the Championship as a potential starter rather than going now to some PL side where his chances are low of breaking through.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #110
chiefdave said:
Would be better off going down the route Wilson did. Get games in and start scoring at this level then move up to the Championship as a potential starter rather than going now to some PL side where his chances are low of breaking through.
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agreed. apart from Wilson got the games at League One, so if taking your advice, he should move up a league
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #111
ccfcway said:
agreed. apart from Wilson got the games at League One, so if taking your advice, he should move up a league
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Not sure at this stage L1 or L2 makes a huge difference.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #112
chiefdave said:
Not sure at this stage L1 or L2 makes a huge difference.
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really ?, in which case we are going down to the conference
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #113
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Anyway to me the story reads like his agent has been in touch with The Sun (most transfer stories happen this way). Trying to get his name out there more & hype him up.
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I think clubs like Everton and Lesta will have had scouts at most U23 games, and will already know about him. Proper football scouts, unlike our sad set-up
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #114
robbiethemole said:
Proper football scouts, unlike our sad set-up
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which has already identified and signed 6 players ?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #115
ccfcway said:
really ?, in which case we are going down to the conference
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Not in terms of a young player getting some game time under his belt.
 

steve82

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #116
robbiethemole said:
I think clubs like Everton and Lesta will have had scouts at most U23 games, and will already know about him. Proper football scouts, unlike our sad set-up
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ccfcway

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #117
chiefdave said:
Not in terms of a young player getting some game time under his belt.
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like Haynes who got games for Cambridge ?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #118
I think he has a good chance of playing some games for us next season. In youth football you get them players who can dominate at youth level because of sheer strength & size compared to opponents but Ponticelli isn't of them. Ones that come to mind are Shaun Jeffers and Nathan Cameron, they both struggled when they weren't the strongest players on the pitch and everyone else had nearly catched up.

He seems a late developer like Addmola Lookman who didn't join Charlton until 17.
 
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ptr

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #119
If I were him there is no way I'd stay. He was banging in goals last year yet we chose to give chances to an LA galaxy reserve, a derby u18, a Watford u18 and a West Brom u18!

Exactly the same situation as Sambou last year. Didn't give him a chance, so he left for more money and fair play to him. People will say that JP isnt ready but how would anyone know that if he weren't given a chance. I watched Tudgay a lot last year and he weren't ready.

I hope I am wrong but he will leave for a pittance to go to a PL club. The club will then turn around and say that we offered him a very good deal for an 18yr old.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #120
ptr said:
If I were him there is no way I'd stay. He was banging in goals last year yet we chose to give chances to an LA galaxy reserve, a derby u18, a Watford u18 and a West Brom u18!

Exactly the same situation as Sambou last year. Didn't give him a chance, so he left for more money and fair play to him. People will say that JP isnt ready but how would anyone know that if he weren't given a chance. I watched Tudgay a lot last year and he weren't ready.

I hope I am wrong but he will leave for a pittance to go to a PL club. The club will then turn around and say that we offered him a very good deal for an 18yr old.
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Thanks for cheering me up ptr :emoji_bear:
 
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ptr

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #121
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Thanks for cheering me up ptr :emoji_bear:
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Apologies, just fuming if we lose another natural goal scorer for nothing 2 years in a row.
 

Samo

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #122
ptr said:
If I were him there is no way I'd stay. He was banging in goals last year yet we chose to give chances to an LA galaxy reserve, a derby u18, a Watford u18 and a West Brom u18!

Exactly the same situation as Sambou last year. Didn't give him a chance, so he left for more money and fair play to him. People will say that JP isnt ready but how would anyone know that if he weren't given a chance. I watched Tudgay a lot last year and he weren't ready.

I hope I am wrong but he will leave for a pittance to go to a PL club. The club will then turn around and say that we offered him a very good deal for an 18yr old.
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Good points well made. But on a point of order; why do people turn around before they say stuff?
 
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Gazolba

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #123
Samo said:
Good points well made. But on a point of order; why do people turn around before they say stuff?
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I've always wondered why people who commit suicide 'turn the gun on themselves', why don't they just shoot themself?
 
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shelby76

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #124
Play the fucking lad top player. Maybe because he aint been at club since he was 8... yawn someone has got an axe to grind against the lad, throw him in.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #125
shelby76 said:
Play the fucking lad top player. Maybe because he aint been at club since he was 8... yawn someone has got an axe to grind against the lad, throw him in.
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I'd be surprised if any of the managers would even know what age a young player joined a club, be that U8 or U17. He'll play if the manager thinks he's good enough
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #126
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I'd be surprised if any of the managers would even know what age a young player joined a club, be that U8 or U17. He'll play if the manager thinks he's good enough
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I think that's what people miss.
 

shelby76

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #127
Nick said:
I think that's what people miss.
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Ok tell me why a player like andre wright gets a run out and ponticelli didnt?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #128
Because they obviously felt he wasn't quite ready to be thrown in yet.
 

Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #129
chiefdave said:
Would be better off going down the route Wilson did. Get games in and start scoring at this level then move up to the Championship as a potential starter rather than going now to some PL side where his chances are low of breaking through.
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The lad was approached by a few premier clubs who offered him good money to join their youth set ups ( far more than we pay him). He turned them all down for a chance to play 1st team football with us. So lets hope he is still thinking that way.
But if someone like Leicester offer him a small fortune to go there, can you really blame him for setting himself up ?
 

better days

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #130
Warwickshire lad said:
The lad was approached by a few premier clubs who offered him good money to join their youth set ups ( far more than we pay him). He turned them all down for a chance to play 1st team football with us. So lets hope he is still thinking that way.
But if someone like Leicester offer him a small fortune to go there, can you really blame him for setting himself up ?
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Sounds like a sensible lad. From reports he is outstanding at U18 level but didn't make an immediate impact in games he played for the U23's
We all like to see young home grown players given a chance at first team level but part of a managers job is to protect young players
As we all know there are plenty of posters on this forum and twitter who would be only too quick to denounce a young lad as 'useless, doesn't care, clueless' and so on if they have a bad game no matter how young they are
 
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steve82

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #131
shelby76 said:
Ok tell me why a player like andre wright gets a run out and ponticelli didnt?
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Ponticelli has only been here just over a year and has really started to flourish in the U18's and is still new to the step up to academy level.
Why would you want to throw him in the first team to dent his confidence in a poor side what created little, when he's developing into a decent prospect in a exciting youth side.

Just because he's scoring for fun in a u18 league doesn't mean he's gonna do the same for the first team. He'd not be playing against similar size kids in league one, and he'd likely of been put out wide too like Andre Wright was and we'd all label him crap.

Let him develop be confident, replicate that in the u23's and his place in the match day 18 will come.
He'd of learned a lot from last season so hopefully this year we will see him if we can hold on to him and he wants to stay.

At the time Andre wright came in he would of been seen to be closer to the first team having had previous loan spells and is physically more developed.


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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 12, 2017
  • #132
 
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IrishSkyBlue

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  • Jul 12, 2017
  • #133
he def knows where the goal is, always in the right place at the right time really hope it gets plenty of chances in pre season and pushes fort starting spot.
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Jul 12, 2017
  • #134
IrishSkyBlue said:
he def knows where the goal is, always in the right place at the right time really hope it gets plenty of chances in pre season and pushes fort starting spot.
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[The old Ndlovu adoption]
Ponti, Ponti
Ponti scores and we want some more,
Not one, not two, not three, not four
Ponti scores and we want some more
 
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SkyBlue79

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  • Jul 14, 2017
  • #135
He has got bags of potential, but not proven as yet. I hope he stays so that he can improve under Robins and show what quality he really has.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 14, 2017
  • #136
I've heard he's not very good.

This has come from a load of mates who watch the youth matches.
 
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better days

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  • Jul 14, 2017
  • #137
SkyBlue79 said:
He has got bags of potential, but not proven as yet. I hope he stays so that he can improve under Robins and show what quality he really has.
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I guess the perfect place for MR to look at him is in the Checkatrade group matches
 

Adge

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  • Jul 14, 2017
  • #138
I hope he isn't thrown under the bus too early as we have seen too many times with others in the recent past.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 15, 2017
  • #139
ptr said:
If I were him there is no way I'd stay. He was banging in goals last year yet we chose to give chances to an LA galaxy reserve, a derby u18, a Watford u18 and a West Brom u18!

Exactly the same situation as Sambou last year. Didn't give him a chance, so he left for more money and fair play to him. People will say that JP isnt ready but how would anyone know that if he weren't given a chance. I watched Tudgay a lot last year and he weren't ready.

I hope I am wrong but he will leave for a pittance to go to a PL club. The club will then turn around and say that we offered him a very good deal for an 18yr old.
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I'd stay 100% and fully trust management in not playing him last season.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #140
Thought his movement was great last night. Reminded me of the way Armstrong moved when he was here, always looking for space. Would love to see a bit more of him.
 
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