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Poll - Who is to blame? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter mark_ccfc
  • Start date Dec 4, 2013
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Who carries the most blame for our current problems

  • SISU 100% CCC/ACL 0%

    Votes: 73 56.6%
  • SISU 75% CCC/ACL 25%

    Votes: 33 25.6%
  • SISU 50% CCC/ACL 50%

    Votes: 16 12.4%
  • SISU 25% CCC/ACL 75%

    Votes: 5 3.9%
  • SISU 0% CCC/ACL 100%

    Votes: 2 1.6%

  • Total voters
    129
  • Poll closed Dec 18, 2013.
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mark_ccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #1
Who is to blame for this mess? - please no multiple votes, would be nice to get a genuine result.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #2
Could do with a 99% Sisu 1% ACL
 
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RFC

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #3
I'll be most generous and say equal!

The truth however may be very different?

We'll just have to wait and see.
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #4
SISU are 100% to blame for where we are now..playing 35 miles away from our city at the lowest level for half a century....as WGS used to say everything else is just propoganda....
 
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simple_simon

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #5
Fl 10 %
acl. 10%
ccc. 10%
sisu 70%
 
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RFC

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #6
italiahorse said:
Could do with a 99% Sisu 1% ACL
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You obviously forgot the main protagonists manipulating ACL, Coventry City Council!
 
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skybluetom

Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #7
This is bull shit anyway. It ain't as simple as ASL/council or Sisu. Those who sold Highfield Road in '95 are as much to blame, as are those who sold all our income streams at the Ricoh for 6 million quid.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #8
RFC said:
You obviously forgot the main protagonists manipulating ACL, Coventry City Council!
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Ok just for you 98% Sisu 1% ACL 1% CCC better? Glad to help.
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #9
How can anyone blame ACL? They are a business just like any other. If idiots accept their terms ie rent then they must live by that decision. The fact that they did not do so their own fault! To then move the club 35 miles away and say that they had no other choice is churlish at best.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #10
Err....how do you create a poll?

Cheers,

Wee (technophobe) Man
 
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skybluetom

Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #11
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Ok just for you 98% Sisu 1% ACL 1% CCC better? Glad to help.
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How can you say Sisu are 98% at fault for all our problems? They came in when the club was on its absolute arse. The players were not being paid, they'd had their wages deferred for 2 months; debts had got to the point the club couldn't finanace them anymore and we were about in get a 10 point penalty for going into administration.

Sisu are guilty of being as clueless of all those who went before them and for that they have to take a part of the blame for where we are now, to say they are solely repsonsible though lets off so many many people in the history of this club who have contributed to being where we are now.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #12
skybluetom said:
How can you say Sisu are 98% at fault for all our problems? They came in when the club was on its absolute arse. The players were not being paid, they'd had their wages deferred for 2 months; debts had got to the point the club couldn't finanace them anymore and we were about in get a 10 point penalty for going into administration.

Sisu are guilty of being as clueless of all those who went before them and for that they have to take a part of the blame for where we are now, to say they are solely repsonsible though lets off so many many people in the history of this club who have contributed to being where we are now.
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Can I ask why you're picking on me after all I said Sisu were only 98% at fault others if you check the voting have said they are 100% to blame
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #13
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Can I ask why you're picking on me after all I said Sisu were only 98% at fault others if you check the voting have said they are 100% to blame
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I said they're 100% to blame for us playing 35 miles away from our home city....might be a strategy of theirs to get the Ricoh but that is their call and no one elses. Also said they're responsible for us playing at the lowest level for half a century...not filing accounts resulting in transfer embargos resulting in us having to play young players clearly not ready being managed by clueless chief scouts resulted in us getting relegated. ACL/CCC/BR/MM/Uncletomcobley had no influence on that....that was all about SISU.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #14
Delboycov said:
I said they're 100% to blame for us playing 35 miles away from our home city....might be a strategy of theirs to get the Ricoh but that is their call and no one elses. Also said they're responsible for us playing at the lowest level for half a century...not filing accounts resulting in transfer embargos resulting in us having to play young players clearly not ready being managed by clueless chief scouts resulted in us getting relegated. ACL/CCC/BR/MM/Uncletomcobley had no influence on that....that was all about SISU.
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Actually using football terminology I blame them 110%
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #15
I voted sisu 100% as that is the closest to what I feel from your choices, however something like Sisu 70, Football league 15, Paul Appleton 10, Coventry Telegraph/CWR 4, ACL/CCC 1. would be my vote.

Sisu are the architects of the villany but the FL, PA and the CT have all allowed it to happen or have assisted in one way or another. The rent was too high to start with and I dislike the council but I don't feel any of this has had anything to do with the rent and I don't see that the council or acl could have prevented it in anyway other than capitulation and I wouldn't want that either.
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #16
Oh and the disgraceful insolvency laws in this country had a big part to play too. What has happened should never be possible.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #17
50% sisu, 30% Richardson et al, 20% ACL.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2013
  • #18
skybluetom said:
How can you say Sisu are 98% at fault for all our problems? They came in when the club was on its absolute arse.
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I am glad for you that we are in a much better place than when they took us over.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #19
I voted 100/0 but really I think nearer 90% SISU/10% ACL/CCC. As far as us being in Northampton and in L1, 100% SISU.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #20
SISU own us and in charge for 6 years so 100 per cent.
Factor in shit rental deal before their time and ACL not wanting to relinquish it minus 10 per cent. SISU shit negotiation skills plus 10 percent.....and so it goes on and on.

But SISU are our owners so the buck stops with them.

No transparency, no clear business plan, no future vision, PR contradictory and unprofessional, eroded their own reputation to the point where trust has broken down between other parties and also with fans.

I can only put it down to their stubbornness and arrogance!
 

mrtickle

Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #21
Robinson, mcguinity et al
 
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Colin1883

Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #22
In no particular order
Sky
Previous regimes
ACL
Sisu
CCC
Appleton
Fl
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #23
skybluetom said:
How can you say Sisu are 98% at fault for all our problems? They came in when the club was on its absolute arse. The players were not being paid, they'd had their wages deferred for 2 months; debts had got to the point the club couldn't finanace them anymore and we were about in get a 10 point penalty for going into administration.

Sisu are guilty of being as clueless of all those who went before them and for that they have to take a part of the blame for where we are now, to say they are solely repsonsible though lets off so many many people in the history of this club who have contributed to being where we are now.
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The last lot may have been financial basket cases, and a few other things as well but they didn't move us 35 miles away from our city, our home, to Northampton.
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #24
Hobo said:
SISU own us and in charge for 6 years so 100 per cent.
Factor in shit rental deal before their time and ACL not wanting to relinquish it minus 10 per cent. SISU shit negotiation skills plus 10 percent.....and so it goes on and on.

But SISU are our owners so the buck stops with them.

No transparency, no clear business plan, no future vision, PR contradictory and unprofessional, eroded their own reputation to the point where trust has broken down between other parties and also with fans.

I can only put it down to their stubbornness and arrogance!
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No new stadium plans.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #25
Should have been
Grendel 50%
RFC 25%
Andreas 25%

:guitar2:
 
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The Gentleman

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #26
RFC said:
You obviously forgot the main protagonists manipulating ACL, Coventry City Council!
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So you obviously forgot your first post when you said 50-50, cannot be taken seriously if you keep tripping over your own tongue.

Before I would have said 80% Sisu and 20% ACL/CCC. After the recent events about new offers I will change it to 95% Sisu and 5% ACL/CCC. At least it seems like ACL/CCC are trying to make the effort of helping us back to Cov, it is just the unbelievable arrogance, stupidity, stubborness and complete and utter disregard for us the fans that that fucks me off.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #27
mark_ccfc said:
Who is to blame for this mess? - please no multiple votes, would be nice to get a genuine result.
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What happens if you think multiple people are to blame?
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #28
Nick said:
What happens if you think multiple people are to blame?
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I think he meant one post each?
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #29
Colin1883 said:
In no particular order
Sky
Previous regimes
ACL
Sisu
CCC
Appleton
Fl
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Agree with this. Unfortunately I'd also add our lack of paying fans.
If we are also doing a 'who is most to blame' award, that has to go to Sisu. No doubt they are in a tricky situation but they have handled our club like a failing factory/shop. A football club isn't like Woolworths where you can pile in and do whatever is necessary, a football club has supporters who will be deeply affected. A football club is part of the community. And regardless of what they say, I don't believe they have grasped this or give a shit.
 

SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #30
I hold the Football League 100% responsible for our current position.

They have failed pathetically to implement their own rules and regulations which exist to prevent unfit owners from running football clubs.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #31
Why is it when I read the posts of SISU sympathisers I hear "Duelling Banjos" from the film Deliverance playing in my head?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #32
Sky Blue Kid said:
Why is it when I read the posts of SISU sympathisers I hear "Duelling Banjos" from the film Deliverance playing in my head?
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they must all be from Beduff me bab
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #33
There isn't enough options on the poll of the list of people to blame for our mess:

Sisu
Richardson
CCCouncil
ACL
Robinson/McGinnity
Gordan Strachan
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #34
I blame the Romans! What did they ever do for us?
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2013
  • #35
Houchens Head said:
I blame the Romans! What did they ever do for us?
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I missed out the Baby Jesus!!
 
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