Nick
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I am not sure he has said he goes to Wasps has he, unless I missed it?
I'm interested to know why, when all sides are to blame, you are boycotting CCFC but attending Wasps? Surely you would boycott both.
My mistake, thought he had said he sat with Wasps season ticket holders.I am not sure he has said he goes to Wasps has he, unless I missed it?
The 90% on the extreme end is very high
I'm not surprised, given the sample audience.
Out of interest, are these polls going to be run on Twitter/FB forums to get a rounded view? To your point, it would be interesting to see the comparisons between this forum against FB results and Twitter results.
Weren't wasps involved before any litigation? Don't you find it strange they were involved with Hoffman as well?
Obviously sisu are at fault but you can always tell when people aren't really that bothered or following it closely they only really know what the telegraph tells them. It's why others have got away with things for years, even pre wasps move.
Ha well the twitter poll on confidence regarding the trust was about the same
This will be an argument against this but Facebook and Twitter are not forums and use the existing platform and user ids
If as a business you are looking to launch something with a community angle the big advantages a forum offers is its targeted and you need to create an ID to join it.
In that sense I’d argue it’s more likely to have views representative to the fan base that attends and have a specific view on a subject
Yes there were weren't they? Didn't the council approach and speak to Wasps before all this started?Were Wasps involved when SISU started telling the council that they were leaving the Ricoh, building a stadium on a cloud and basically playing chicken with the club on the M6?
Were Wasps involved when SISU started telling the council that they were leaving the Ricoh, building a stadium on a cloud and basically playing chicken with the club on the M6? That's where this started Nick. I don't need the Telegraph, nor the Observer to tell me that. SISU started this downward spiral, I saw them drag us to the lowest tier of football over their own personal greed without a care for the fans. We're their last thought. Seppala couldn't give a shit about us.
Devils advocate here....If it hadn't come out that Wasps were behind Hoffman and his consortium, and SISU had accepted his bid and sold the club to him I'd imagine a deal would have been cut for CCFC to have an equal part of the income at the Ricoh, a permanent home and allow us to fund the team better. Serious question, would our fans care? Of course they wouldn't (well maybe some on here would be F*CK WASPS etc etc).
Our fans want CCFC at the Ricoh and more money invested in the side with security of knowing that we'll be at the Ricoh for the foreseeable.
That could have happened and we'd all have been non the wiser about who the consortium was other than having Hoffman as the face of it. Plus all of those fans who have stayed away because of SISU would come back, wouldn't they? Wouldn't that have been nice? 15K+ fans again in the Ricoh and a team that isn't worried about selling it's star youngster every year to still be able to invest?
I've never been to a Wasps game. I mentioned that I sat around plenty of CCFC fans that were also Wasps ST holders.I'm interested to know why, when all sides are to blame, you are boycotting CCFC but attending Wasps? Surely you would boycott both.
But had SISU announced that they were off building their new stadium?Wasps were approached before the rent was stopped being paid
But had SISU announced that they were off building their new stadium?
I hate them being here because I support CCFC and because I have empathy with people like this fella.
'By moving to Coventry, Wasps have told their fans they don't matter'
In that article, written in 2014, it says they planned to be in profit in 3/4 years. 4 years down the line they're losing £10m a year.And another opportunity to post this eye-opening article.
Hugh Godwin: Wasps didn't have to send themselves to Coventry
Amazon TV money will cover a chunk of that won't it in the short term? Rest of the TV coverage deal to be sorted by 2021 and an expected increase again on current tv deal (£200M). If that's the case then it looks like Richardson's gamble might pan out.In that article, written in 2014, it says they planned to be in profit in 3/4 years. 4 years down the line they're losing £10m a year.
The Premiership Rugby website has attendance stats and shows Wasps only having the 5th highest attendances in the league let alone the whole of Europe.
When did Amazon win the rights? Can't find anything about that online.Amazon TV money will cover a chunk of that won't it in the short term? Rest of the TV coverage deal to be sorted by 2021 and an expected increase again on current tv deal (£200M). If that's the case then it looks like Richardson's gamble might pan out.
Amazon TV money will cover a chunk of that won't it in the short term? Rest of the TV coverage deal to be sorted by 2021 and an expected increase again on current tv deal (£200M). If that's the case then it looks like Richardson's gamble might pan out.
You’re banking on two deals, one rumoured and one two years away. In the meantime they have a short terms cash injection that won’t even cover their bonds a loss of £2m a year from us not being there. Rumours of sponsorship money dwindling, poorly managed events likely to lead to less profitable ones coming in the future and rumours of casino closing. They have also given up a quarter of any league revenue (which includes tv money) so that will have to have a significant increase before they even look at the same coming in let alone chipping away on current losses and what is expected to get worse. This all going on when they can’t afford training facilities, are losing their best players and failed to qualify for premier European competition meaning another drop in income, quality and likely punters.Amazon TV money will cover a chunk of that won't it in the short term? Rest of the TV coverage deal to be sorted by 2021 and an expected increase again on current tv deal (£200M). If that's the case then it looks like Richardson's gamble might pan out.
Amazon TV money will cover a chunk of that won't it in the short term? Rest of the TV coverage deal to be sorted by 2021 and an expected increase again on current tv deal (£200M). If that's the case then it looks like Richardson's gamble might pan out.
That's where we are with them now. People who are more supportive of the move are clinging on to things like money from amazon who have only expressed a vague interest.When did Amazon win the rights? Can't find anything about that online.
The effect of any TV deal, unless it reaches Premier League football proportions or is a lower value than previously, is surely negligible as all clubs will get the same and therefore for Wasps to remain at the same level they are now will need to increase their spending in line with any increase.
But had SISU announced that they were off building their new stadium?
Wouldn't that have seen CCFC owning a half share in Wasps, if everything had panned out?No, get with the timeline. It was in March 2012 (conversations between ACL and Wasps had clearly been taking place for a while). This was at the same time as ACL apparently negotiating in good faith with CCFC for the Higgs' Share in ACL.
No, get with the timeline. It was in March 2012 (conversations between ACL and Wasps had clearly been taking place for a while). This was at the same time as ACL apparently negotiating in good faith with CCFC for the Higgs' Share in ACL.
They're also now in debt to JP McManus who loaned them a load of cash recently.
Wasn't that an emergency thing to get the wages paid?
Didn't know that. That can't be a good sign.Yeah, £5 million at the end of last month.
You almost sound happy.Amazon TV money will cover a chunk of that won't it in the short term? Rest of the TV coverage deal to be sorted by 2021 and an expected increase again on current tv deal (£200M). If that's the case then it looks like Richardson's gamble might pan out.
Cool story bro, needs more dragons though. Sibollocks more likeThis is just horse shit. I sat around plenty of CCFC season ticket holders at the Ricoh last year that are also Wasps season ticket holders. To think that people in Coventry don't want to watch premiership rugby on their doorstep is ridiculously blinkered.
Of course not, how realistically would that have worked?Wouldn't that have seen CCFC owning a half share in Wasps, if everything had panned out?
If ACL wanted to buy Wasps, and wecwanted to buy half of ACLOf course not, how realistically would that have worked?
Think Haskell...If ACL wanted to buy Wasps, and wecwanted to buy half of ACL
This is just horse shit. I sat around plenty of CCFC season ticket holders at the Ricoh last year that are also Wasps season ticket holders. To think that people in Coventry don't want to watch premiership rugby on their doorstep is ridiculously blinkered.
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