The fascist party in Italy is a recognised political party - you are saying he should not be manager because you disagree with his views ?
The fascist party in Italy is a recognised political party - you are saying he should not be manager because you disagree with his views ?
If the media didn't bring up any of his political views then nobody would hear about it. Football is for watching, playing, enjoying. Not politics.
Bollox - just count yourself lucky that you believe that.....a direct consequence of sacrifices made on your behalf.
Completely different situations.
Sunderland are answerable to their fans.
Politics is bigger than Sport.
Di Canio has never renounced Italian Fascism. He should and in unequivocal terms.
The fact that he hasn't - indeed he frequently ducks the issue - shows that he should not be in public life....let alone the manager of a F.C.
Completely different situations.
Sunderland are answerable to their fans.
Politics is bigger than Sport.
Di Canio has never renounced Italian Fascism. He should and in unequivocal terms.
The fact that he hasn't - indeed he frequently ducks the issue - shows that he should not be in public life....let alone the manager of a F.C.
Has he renounced Communism?
Don't think anyone is saying that, its the idea of a "manager" being prejudice towards "his players", that has people worried - the Nazi salute to the Lazio fans doesn't help either.
All of this is just further indication that the BBC doesn't care about football outside the Premiership and top European levels - he was the same manager at Swindon, with the same "ideals" he hasn't overnight become this Mussolini supporting, neolithic controversial character!
Has he ever said he's a communist? No, but he's said "I'm a fascist, not a racist" and said of Mussolini "He was basically a very principled individual. Yet he turned against his sense of right and wrong. He compromised his ethics".
Communism if you look at the doctrine teaches equality despite nationality, age, disability, religion, sex, sexual orientation etc. what's offensive about that? Fascism teaches intolerance of: other nationalities, homosexuals, ethnic minorities (blacks, Jews etc.), religion (Jews and Muslims etc.), immigrants, disability and somewhat sex, what isn't offensive here?! Fascism shouldn't be tolerated in a modern society and anyone who is a fascist should be challenged, regardless of occupation.
And another thing...I'll bet more people could tell you who the Manager of England (football, rugby, cricket & provably a fair few other sports too)is than who is the minister for sport - so IS politics bigger than sport? It may be more important for economic reasons...but it has a much lower perceived impact & importance in daily life.
Has he ever said he's a communist? No, but he's said "I'm a fascist, not a racist" and said of Mussolini "He was basically a very principled individual. Yet he turned against his sense of right and wrong. He compromised his ethics".
Communism if you look at the doctrine teaches equality despite nationality, age, disability, religion, sex, sexual orientation etc. what's offensive about that? Fascism teaches intolerance of: other nationalities, homosexuals, ethnic minorities (blacks, Jews etc.), religion (Jews and Muslims etc.), immigrants, disability and somewhat sex, what isn't offensive here?! Fascism shouldn't be tolerated in a modern society and anyone who is a fascist should be challenged, regardless of occupation.
That - (your take on what I mean by politics) is, well, slightly superficial....dare I add, simplistic.
All our actions are to a greater or lesser extent, political.
Buying a pint of milk, crossing the road, posting on the Internet...all these simple actions have a political dimension whether we like it or not. The things we take for granted are a consequence of our political freedom which is upheld and defined by our values, culture, laws and traditions.
Sport (such as it is) is an activity which is defined by all of the above....not the other way round.
I agree the press/media are inconsistent re the Di Canio stuff but the higher the profile the more people will feel obliged to comment, hand in their season tickets, etc.
I'll be surprised if Di Canio is still there in a month tbh let alone next season.
He's a breath of fresh air in the stultifying and moronic world of professional football but to survive in this game you have to be able to be a bit cynical and play along. Di Canio isn't capable of this, he's a loose cannon, about to go off.
Precisely. It beggars belief that anybody could think any differently. The evidence of just why this is so critical is evidenced by how riven Italian politics is, by prejudice and racism. Berlusconi instigated a house to house search for immigrants a few years ago code named "a white Christmas".
This in part was to appease the fascists.
Unbelievable.
That's the thing see? We agree on pretty much all points really. There's a difference between tolerance & appeasement. I disapprove of what I think we agree are extreme views. We have to be careful though because its easy to start mud-slinging. A Tory voter doesn't necessarily agree with IDS benefits changes - but might agree entirely with the Tory stance on the EU. That is tolerated...accepted as a different opinion. Di Canio IF he is a sympathiser or indeed hardened facist can be tolerated - as long as he doesn't start actually "living" the doctrine.
Assuming you agree with Real's post on pg1 of this thread about freedom of speech...you cannot then shoot someone like Di Canio (or me!) down (i.e. persecute them) just because you don't like their views.
Di Canio is also quoted as saying "Yet he turned against his sense of right and wrong. He compromised his ethics" of Mussolini - so may only be sympathetic to some facist views & not the more extreme persecution type ones.
Lets face it - not so long ago people in the UK were hounded/forced to resign from certain roles because they were gay (i.e. persecuted). We have also seen abuse of power, expense fiddling, corrupt banks, immoral businessmen so even our society in some ways is not too far removed from the Italian one.
I too dislike very extreme left & right politics but there is a big difference between tolerating & appeasing those that hold such leanings IMO.
I notice that today Di Canio has officially renounced fascism. Finalmente, the penny's dropped.
Belatedly realised that he's had to compromise like the rest of us....become a boring twat......utter a few perfunctory grunts and drop in the odd cliche......there you go.
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