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Police on stand By (8 Viewers)

  • Thread starter letsallsingtogether
  • Start date Jul 28, 2013
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #1
Have just been told by the police that they are on stand by for the Ricoh..................:claping hands::claping hands:
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #2
as in a match, or as in a protest ?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #3
As in a Match.
ccfcway said:
as in a match, or as in a protest ?
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #4
Alot of rumours saying we'll be playing at the ricoh can't all be wrong ?
 

ccfcdr

Active Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #5
Heard this bout 5 today off mates brother a copper didn't put it on didn't fancy the flack was told on standby for SAT 10th bristol city
 

SkyBlueUkeman

New Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #6
They've heard that I was plotting to set fire to Tim Fisher's shite jumpers.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #7
It might not be anything they would probably have to put them on standby just in case
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #8
Sure it isn't just standby to go to Northampton to do/bolster the Policing there?
 

ccfcdr

Active Member
  • Jul 28, 2013
  • #9
SAT 10th ricoh
NOT sun 11th nton
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #10
If this is true then what will Fisher say???
If he's still in the job I'd love to be there to hear him say it.
 

mattylad

Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #11
I have tended to ignore the weekend rumours as they rarely get backed up however it could be possible that if the CVA is not agreed and the club remains in administration that Appleton will have to pick up the Ricohs offer of playing for free as it is if better interest to the creditors than paying to play at Northampton.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #12
mattylad said:
I have tended to ignore the weekend rumours as they rarely get backed up however it could be possible that if the CVA is not agreed and the club remains in administration that Appleton will have to pick up the Ricohs offer of playing for free as it is if better interest to the creditors than paying to play at Northampton.
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When has Appleton done anything in the best interests of anyone other than SISU ?
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #13
ccfcway said:
When has Appleton done anything in the best interests of anyone other than SISU ?
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Which is what MattyLad is saying. Paying Northampton to play there, play for nothing at the Ricoh...hmm which is the best for the creditors???
The only difficulty there is that he has to do his best for the new business moving fwd & the Ricoh may still prove not to be the best thing in the longer term for the new business - all depends on the terms really.
 
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jesus-wept

New Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #14
I have been told over the weekend by two different sources that sisu or NTFC are struggling to get the nod from Northamptonshire police, one said the cost is astronomical. Think that was a big part in any matches going into the West Midlands area. Somebody somewhere must know if the local old bill have okayed this farce or not. Over to the local media to find out give them something to do on a boring Monday morning
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #15
surely they would have to give the police two or three weeks notice just in case ? Couldnt leave it to the last minute ie a couple days before. Does it mean there is a CCFC match there ? no it just means the police are prepared if there was, be no point ACL & SISU talking about it if the police were not able to cover it.

sorry not to be so positive
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #16
osb - cup replays are sometimes managed at 4 days notice if required

certainly 10 days - and we could be talking 70k people

2-3 weeks certainly not
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #17
Hope the police are at the ricoh, I love a message in the bottle
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #18
oldskyblue58 said:
surely they would have to give the police two or three weeks notice just in case ? Couldnt leave it to the last minute ie a couple days before. Does it mean there is a CCFC match there ? no it just means the police are prepared if there was, be no point ACL & SISU talking about it if the police were not able to cover it.

sorry not to be so positive
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Agreed.

Shows good planning to cover the possibility, doesn't mean it's an actuality.
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #19
deanocity3 said:
Hope the police are at the ricoh, I love a message in the bottle
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an SOS to the world.......so appropriate
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #20
jesus-wept said:
I have been told over the weekend by two different sources that sisu or NTFC are struggling to get the nod from Northamptonshire police, one said the cost is astronomical. Think that was a big part in any matches going into the West Midlands area. Somebody somewhere must know if the local old bill have okayed this farce or not. Over to the local media to find out give them something to do on a boring Monday morning
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I would imagine Northants police would ask West Mids for mutual aid, and WMP would send them a bill to provide additional officers. Don't know what percentage of the bill would then be charged to SISU, but maybe the police are worried the hounds won't pay up.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #21
RegTheDonk said:
I would imagine Northants police would ask West Mids for mutual aid, and WMP would send them a bill to provide additional officers. Don't know what percentage of the bill would then be charged to SISU, but maybe the police are worried the hounds won't pay up.
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Didn't Leeds recently win a court ruling the the club wasn't liable for costs away from the ground? This could be an issue as a lot of people will arrive by train which you would assume would mean extra policing away from the ground. If SISU are refusing to pay maybe Northants police are saying they won't cover it.
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #22
I would imagine only a couple of coppers would be needed to look after 20 cov fans.the others 280 tickets sold are for players families, club employees, visiting teams officials, and others clubs scouts etc.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #23
skybluesam66 said:
osb - cup replays are sometimes managed at 4 days notice if required

certainly 10 days - and we could be talking 70k people

2-3 weeks certainly not
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Difference here is that no one was expecting them to play at the Ricoh because they had moved to Sixfields apparently and anothers police force would be responsible.

Do you not think considering that the police have the final say it is not wise to give them an early heads up of the possibility?

Unless the Police are happy to have the game on there is not much point discussing the possibility is there. Also what if there was an alternative event going on ?

I would guess that the police are provided with the seasons fixture list so that would be what 9 months notice on some games?

All that is going on is good planning - far too early to read in to it that CCFC will be playing at the Ricoh on the 10th

It could be they are in which case I will be very happy but right now nothing really says they will be..............
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #24
oldskyblue58 said:
Difference here is that no one was expecting them to play at the Ricoh because they had moved to Sixfields apparently and anothers police force would be responsible.

Do you not think considering that the police have the final say it is not wise to give them an early heads up of the possibility?

Unless the Police are happy to have the game on there is not much point discussing the possibility is there. Also what if there was an alternative event going on ?

I would guess that the police are provided with the seasons fixture list so that would be what 9 months notice on some games?

All that is going on is good planning - far too early to read in to it that CCFC will be playing at the Ricoh on the 10th

It could be they are in which case I will be very happy but right now nothing really says they will be..............
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Do the police have the final say? The police commissioner of Northampton was on Cwr the other week and was not at all happy but said its out of police forces hands to veto any event. They just have to get on with it.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #25
Grendel said:
Do the police have the final say? The police commissioner of Northampton was on Cwr the other week and was not at all happy but said its out of police forces hands to veto any event. They just have to get on with it.
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I would guess if nobody will agree to cover the cost then they don't police it in which case the game will be called off due to safety concerns. Came close to happening at Pompey last season, police hadn't been paid and said if they didn't get what they were owed they wouldn't provide policing and games would have to be called off.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #26
chiefdave said:
I would guess if nobody will agree to cover the cost then they don't police it in which case the game will be called off due to safety concerns. Came close to happening at Pompey last season, police hadn't been paid and said if they didn't get what they were owed they wouldn't provide policing and games would have to be called off.
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The police costs will be paid why would there be any concern. Whatever you lay at sisu's door they pay bills. ACL are not paid as its a rent dispute.
 
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Matty_CCFC

New Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #27
jesus-wept said:
I have been told over the weekend by two different sources that sisu or NTFC are struggling to get the nod from Northamptonshire police, one said the cost is astronomical. Think that was a big part in any matches going into the West Midlands area. Somebody somewhere must know if the local old bill have okayed this farce or not. Over to the local media to find out give them something to do on a boring Monday morning
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Is there anything we can do to add to the concerns of the Police?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #28
Matty_CCFC said:
Is there anything we can do to add to the concerns of the Police?
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Take up drug dealing and pimping?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #29
Grendel said:
The police costs will be paid why would there be any concern. Whatever you lay at sisu's door they pay bills. ACL are not paid as its a rent dispute.
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They have not paid the Higgs centre either, plus I can remember a few other people that Ltd owed in administration.
Why are you so blinkered?

I would say that police costs away from the ground are covered in the general police costs.
Otherwise why should the club pay for police at the railway station.
Surely the railway station should pay as they are their customers. Could get so complicated.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #30
Grendel said:
Whatever you lay at sisu's door they pay bills.
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The proposed CVA shows an unpaid tax bill and they also haven't paid for their use of the Higgs Centre. Even ignoring that if they have only agreed to pay costs at the ground and the local police say there are further costs unless SISU agree to pay for it why would they pay any bill for it?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 29, 2013
  • #31
Grendel said:
The police costs will be paid why would there be any concern. Whatever you lay at sisu's door they pay bills. ACL are not paid as its a rent dispute.
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Looking at this again. You are very naïve.
 
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