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mark82

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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This group of players just don't seem that bothered. No-one is fighting for the cause. We need 3 or 4 big signings in January/Summer if we aren't going to drift into obscurity.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #2
mark82 said:
This group of players just don't seem that bothered. No-one is fighting for the cause. We need 3 or 4 big signings in January/Summer if we aren't going to drift into obscurity.
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I don't agree mark that the players don't care , we've not played at all badly tonight
 
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mark82

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #3
Evo1883 said:
I don't agree mark that the players don't care , we've not played at all badly tonight
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Maybe just not good enough then.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #4
mark82 said:
Maybe just not good enough then.
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Well I think tonight there's genuinley been a bit of misfortune
 
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mark82

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #5
Evo1883 said:
Well I think tonight there's genuinley been a bit of misfortune
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And a lot of passing backwards.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #6
mark82 said:
And a lot of passing backwards.
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Because Torp can't head a ball with an open goal in front of him.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #7
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Because Torp can't head a ball with an open goal in front of him.
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He was stretching. It appears Rudoni didn’t give him a shout. Rudoni had a tap in.
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #8
WBA not even out of first gear.
 
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Robinshio

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #9
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Because Torp can't head a ball with an open goal in front of him.
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Nor can sheaf
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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Wrong leadership on the pitch.
 
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hinckley cov

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
I don't agree mark that the players don't care , we've not played at all badly tonight
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We’ve played ok but we move the ball way to slowly, but we should have scored and Rudoni should have been shouting at torp to leave that cross .
 
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ptr

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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They care but Lampard needs to be strong now and drop a few that are nowhere near it atm.

Collins, Milan and Rudoni. Embarrassing.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #13
Evo1883 said:
I don't agree mark that the players don't care , we've not played at all badly tonight
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We're going through the motions, there is very little will in what we're doing. Hence the slow play, the turning back, the lack of movement.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #14
fernandopartridge said:
We're going through the motions, there is very little will in what we're doing. Hence the slow play, the turning back, the lack of movement.
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…the moment when EMC stopped chasing a ball that it looked like he could’ve kept in.
 
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SkyBlueAussie

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #15
Bassette only had to lob the Goalie in the first half, and why didn't he just bloody shoot in that second half chance.
And why take Tats off when he's the only one crossing into the box?
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #16
Lampard doesn't have a lot of options, Sheaf isn't a leader , Eccles is just not good enough and Torp is a luxury player at absolute best Rudoni at least can control the ball but does fuck all with it, we played ok tonight but playing Bassette from the start was a mistake but again Lampards only option is Simms who is just not looking great at all
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #17
Mowatt taking the piss now just said its not the first time he's scored against Brad used to do it all the time in training
 
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Shannerz

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #18
I don't believe they don't care, but some of the recruitment has been very poor, and Sheaf and MvE don't even look half the players they were last year. I don't know what's going on with those two.
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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I said it on the other thread; pisses me right off when we lose and then see the players stand laughing and joking with the opposition.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #20
Nah not for me, it's not the issue. a couple just aren't good enough yet, a few are knackered (MvE poor bloke has no back up).

I think they lack belief. The defence are shaky and nerves get to them all. That first goal was such bad luck. But we looked ok when we got our tails up for a bit in the second half.

2nd goal was a shambles and highlights the problem we have at the back. Would love an older head to come in and be a calming influence. I actually don't think we are far off being very competitive. A few good bits of business and we'll look a lot better
 
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bazza16

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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ptr said:
They care but Lampard needs to be strong now and drop a few that are nowhere near it atm.

Collins, Milan and Rudoni.
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Dovin and Kitching need to come into the team
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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stevefloyd said:
Lampard doesn't have a lot of options, Sheaf isn't a leader , Eccles is just not good enough and Torp is a luxury player at absolute best Rudoni at least can control the ball but does fuck all with it, we played ok tonight but playing Bassette from the start was a mistake but again Lampards only option is Simms who is just not looking great at all
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Sheaf looks out of sorts , EMC very disappointing tonight , hope Wright is fit asap.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #23
Shannerz said:
I don't believe they don't care, but some of the recruitment has been very poor, and Sheaf and MvE don't even look half the players they were last year. I don't know what's going on with those two.
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I think we failed hard not getting in back ups for both Sheaf and MvE. We just can't afford to drop either or give them a rest.

Would have been ideal to try get in some succession planning in and use this season to rotate and bed in a youngster
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #24
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Sheaf looks out of sorts , EMC very disappointing tonight , hope Wright is fit asap.
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Just think you stayed up late to watch that
 
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SeshMouseSkyBlue

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #25
mark82 said:
And a lot of passing backwards.
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Brings back the Sammy Clingan days
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #26
I think they care. They are just “nice”. We need some unfettered aggression.
 
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junglej13

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #27
That is classed as an ok performance yet we still gifted them a goal, showed no courage on the ball and repeatedly hesitated on the ball. We're just so weak all over the pitch. I've said repeatedly you can't trust one of them. An awful quality in a footballer. I really can't stand some of them.
 
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fatso

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #28
mark82 said:
Maybe just not good enough then.
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We havnt adequately replaced Gyokeres, Hamer and O'hare, we've brought in too many young players too soon, and too many league 1 players.

Realistically this seasons over (as long as we don't get dragged into a relegation scrap) so we need to be looking at a mini re-build for next season. 2 transfer windows could make a massive difference, we're 3 experienced players away from being challenging again.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #29
ptr said:
They care but Lampard needs to be strong now and drop a few that are nowhere near it atm.

Collins, Milan and Rudoni. Embarrassing.
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MVE is being flogged to death. We do not have cover for him. He is quality. Played the lovely cross in that should have resulted in the equaliser.
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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MVE has needed dropping for a while imo. I take the point that he's tired with no backup but he has been poor so far this season.

I like him as a player and personality but he has been really unimpressive this season

I'd be playing Eccles at RB which frees up Torp to start in the middle
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #31
Think they all try and care, just very average footballers.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #32
SkyBlueSam01 said:
MVE needs dropping for a while imo

I like him as a player and personality but he has been really unimpressive all season

I'd be playing Eccles at RB which frees up Torp to start in the middle
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He's been one of the better players but just looks fucked
 
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Shannerz

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #33
fatso said:
We havnt adequately replaced Gyokeres,
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Actually, with Vik at least, we did.

Obviously there was zero chance of getting a player of the same quality, we're not in the market for £20-30m strikers, but in Wright, we absolutely got as good a replacement as we could have.
 
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False9

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  • Dec 11, 2024
  • #34
mark82 said:
This group of players just don't seem that bothered. No-one is fighting for the cause. We need 3 or 4 big signings in January/Summer if we aren't going to drift into obscurity.
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That's such a lazy criticism. I was there tonight and could see they were busting their bollocks tonight.

A fair few not good enough on the night but they were trying.
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • Dec 11, 2024
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mark82 said:
This group of players just don't seem that bothered. No-one is fighting for the cause. We need 3 or 4 big signings in January/Summer if we aren't going to drift into obscurity.
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I agree we need a new left back, 2 centre backs and a number 10 that links midfielder and attack.

It must be incredibly frustrating for the likes of MVE, Torp, Sheaf, Sakamoto, Mason Clarke, Wright and I would go as far as including Simms, it's got to be frustrating for this group of lads when they are having to play alongside Joel, Bobby, Binks, Kitching, BTA, Rudoni.

There's a group of lads that are absolutely good enough and then there is a group of lads that simply aren't good enough and it never ends well.

Gyok, Hamer, O'Hare have all moved on and It won't be long until the cycle continues and MVE, Sheaf and Wright follow suit, purely because, as a club we always have had this habit of having 3 or 4 top talents and then 4 or 5 that are dreadful and are consistently putting our club in a position we shouldn't be in.

Recruitment needs to be looked at, we didn't need BTA, he cost us 2 million quid, he hasn't got a first touch, no ball control, he runs for the sake of running, without cause, he is a league 1 footballer. The 4 centre backs, all of them are not good enough. Rudoni, playing where O'Hare did last season, it's honestly a far cry when you compare the 2 players talent wise.

We need 4 players bringing in, 2 new centre backs a left back and a number 10 to link the midfield and forwards.
 
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