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  • Thread starter dongonzalos
  • Start date Nov 19, 2012
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #36
They have won 4 out of their last 5 home games and lost one.

I would definitely take draw.
 

Black6Osprey

New Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #37
If you look at the stats for the whole of October we are 14th in the form table. 3 games later we've beaten the bottom team are up to 16th in the league and people are starting to book hotels for our qualification in to Europe. If you look at the last 9 games Colchester are 3rd in the form guide and we are 12th but the season isn't over 1 game, 6 or 10. If we win tomorrow the excitement level for some may be just too much. Imagine the heady heights of 13th in the table which will surely mean we are on track for automatic promotion or even the title could be on the cards. We can all revel in another graph to prove it and of course if we lose then I'm afraid it's the conference and maybe liquidation or even worse a starting slot for Barton in the next game.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #38
Such is the length of time with no success that we will rave over any scrap of it.
 
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georgehudson

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #39
beware their midfield, strong & competitive,
3 ex=sky blue types on their books,
hope MR has got the team fired up for it
 

kg82

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  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #40
Grendel said:
But factually accurate and it was 5449 when you posted that.
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Well, you stated earlier it was 11 games when it was 10 being talked about. Not factually accurate. I'm guessing there's a fair few others.
 

skybluelee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #41
kg82 said:
Well, you stated earlier it was 11 games when it was 10 being talked about. Not factually accurate. I'm guessing there's a fair few others.
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As much as it pains me to say it, he was right as we lost the game prior to this 10 game period (v carlisle).
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #42
All we are interested in now though is play-off form from this point forwards.

Tonight and Saturday are now very key games. If we can get 4 points from these 2 we will be heading in the right direction ... and that is up the table!!
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #43
skybluelee said:
As much as it pains me to say it, he was right as we lost the game prior to this 10 game period (v carlisle).
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Be in pain no more, the games the op was talking about was after the 5 game losing streak! This included Carlisle!
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #44
Otis said:
All we are interested in now though is play-off form from this point forwards.

Tonight and Saturday are now very key games. If we can get 4 points from these 2 we will be heading in the right direction ... and that is up the table!!
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exactly. Show me 4 points from the next 2 games and I'll start to believe
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #45
dongonzalos said:
1 Sheffield United 10 2.10
2 Bournemouth 10 1.90
3 Colchester United 10 1.90
4 Doncaster Rovers 10 1.90
5 Swindon Town 10 1.80
6 Crawley Town 10 1.80
7 Milton Keynes Dons 10 1.80
8 Coventry City 10 1.70
9 Tranmere Rovers 10 1.70
10 Brentford 10 1.70
11 Preston North End 10 1.60
12 Stevenage 10 1.60
13 Yeovil Town 10 1.50
14 Notts County 10 1.30
15 Portsmouth 10 1.30
16 Crewe Alexandra 10 1.30
17 Bury 10 1.20
18 Oldham Athletic 10 1.10
19 Leyton Orient 11 1.09
20 Sc-unithorpe United 10 0.90
21 Shrewsbury Town 10 0.80
22 Carlisle United 10 0.80
23 Walsall 10 0.60
24 Hartlepool United
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If you extrapolate that form over the rest of the season and add it to the current points table, the final table will be....

1. Sheff 93.8 pts
2. Doncaster 85.1
3. Tranmere 84.6
4. Swindon 82.4
5. Mk dons 82.4
6. Crawley 81.4
7. Bournemouth 80.2
8. Stevenage 76.8
9. Brentford 76.6
10. Colchester 76.2
11. PNE 71.8
12. Coventry 67.6
13. Yeovil 67
14. Notts county 66.4
15. Crewe 56.6
16. Portsmouth 54.4
17. Leyton orient 52.8
18. Oldham 48.9
19. Bury 48.6
20. Carlisle 42.4
21. Scunthorpe 42.2
22. Shrewsbury 39.4
23. Walsall 36.8
24. Hartlepool 13.6

There's a couple of points.

1) if we had won 2 and drawn 1 of that 5 loss run we would only be predicted to be 1 place higher in this prediction table.

2) form is a moveable feast, the last 3 games we are 6th? The last 6 games we are 11th, last 10 games we are 8th.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #46
stupot07 said:
If you extrapolate that form over the rest of the season and add it to the current points table, the final table will be....

1. Sheff 93.8 pts
2. Doncaster 85.1
3. Tranmere 84.6
4. Swindon 82.4
5. Mk dons 82.4
6. Crawley 81.4
7. Bournemouth 80.2
8. Stevenage 76.8
9. Brentford 76.6
10. Colchester 76.2
11. PNE 71.8
12. Coventry 67.6
13. Yeovil 67
14. Notts county 66.4
15. Crewe 56.6
16. Portsmouth 54.4
17. Leyton orient 52.8
18. Oldham 48.9
19. Bury 48.6
20. Carlisle 42.4
21. Scunthorpe 42.2
22. Shrewsbury 39.4
23. Walsall 36.8
24. Hartlepool 13.6

There's a couple of points.

1) if we had won 2 and drawn 1 of that 5 loss run we would only be predicted to be 1 place higher in this prediction table.

2) form is a moveable feast, the last 3 games we are 6th? The last 6 games we are 11th, last 10 games we are 8th.
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As I say, despite people seemingly being baffled by it, I would be happy with 12th.

Next season will be the one where Robins can have all his own players and not everyone else's cast-offs.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #47
kg82 said:
Yeah, sorry Don it's actually W-5, D-2, L-3. 17 points in 10 games.

EDIT: On a positive note though, not far off 1.79!
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And IMO is a good solid start to the Robins era...ship I's steadying on & possibly off the field, financially speaking. The latter will take longer to come to fruition than on-pitch matters I think though...so much more complicated
 

Diehard Si

New Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #48
It's clear Robins is improving us. We're still far from there as those defeats have shown, but it's better.

I really feel the Shaw era has massively damaged us though. 12 points against relatively weak opposition LOST.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #49
Diehard Si said:
It's clear Robins is improving us. We're still far from there as those defeats have shown, but it's better.

I really feel the Shaw era has massively damaged us though. 12 points against relatively weak opposition LOST.
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Shaw era is probably overstating it a bit.

The Shaw error would be more like it.
 

Blue Maniac

Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #50
Can someone do a table showing what would happen if you win all your games 5-0 from last Saturday onwards?
 

skyblueman

New Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #51
Macca said:
exactly. Show me 4 points from the next 2 games and I'll start to believe
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Show me six!!!
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #52
Blue Maniac said:
Can someone do a table showing what would happen if you win all your games 5-0 from last Saturday onwards?
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Dongle is doing one now.

It also has every team in the top six losing all their games 5-0.

We finish 8th.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #53
lordsummerisle said:
Dongle is doing one now.

It also has every team in the top six losing all their games 5-0.

We finish 8th.
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What about when 2 teams in the top 6 plat each other??????

That could push us down to 9th or 10th
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #54
kg82 said:
Be in pain no more, the games the op was talking about was after the 5 game losing streak! This included Carlisle!
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This is a based off everything Don says - 5 games. The 5th game was Robins first in charge and if we had won the game it sure would be included.

We have had 11 games with the new manager in charge. You can't just expunge the game as it was a defeat.

It's 17 points from 11 games.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #55
Grendel said:
This is a based off everything Don says - 5 games. The 5th game was Robins first in charge and if we had won the game it sure would be included.

We have had 11 games with the new manager in charge. You can't just expunge the game as it was a defeat.

It's 17 points from 11 games.
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Look, the op said in the very first post of the thread that he was on about games SINCE the 5 game losing streak. Count the games since then, it's 10 games. What I have said us factually correct to what the op has stated. How about standing down for once and admitting you were wrong to something so minor.
 

skybluelee

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  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #56
Grendel said:
This is a based off everything Don says - 5 games. The 5th game was Robins first in charge and if we had won the game it sure would be included.

We have had 11 games with the new manager in charge. You can't just expunge the game as it was a defeat.

It's 17 points from 11 games.
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No, but you can ignore its relevance to how we have performed under robins as he had been in charge for one training session prior to the carlisle game.
 
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CTID

New Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #57
Grendel said:
This is a based off everything Don says - 5 games. The 5th game was Robins first in charge and if we had won the game it sure would be included.

We have had 11 games with the new manager in charge. You can't just expunge the game as it was a defeat.

It's 17 points from 11 games.
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And you can "expunge" what you like in a statement of your own opinion. If he choses not to include this game, that game then so be it!

I am kind of sitting in the "lets not get too excited" camp, but i also believe that if a city fan has something to be possitive about then let him enjoy it. We dont get alot to enjoy so why shoot him down?
 
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ricohman

New Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #58
Theres alot of bullshit being talked in this thread
 

1nilandwe...

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  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #59
ricohman said:
Theres alot of bullshit being talked in this thread
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Correction: A lot of boring bullshit.

We should be allowed to be optimistic after a 5-0 win surely? Could everyone just let people be happy for a bit for a change instead of shouting them down?
Wouldn't it be nice if more people up the Ricoh were optimistic? What a nicer atmosphere that would be, instead of flipping between an angry mob and a funeral procession.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #60
Ahh, but to be fair, people were just happy and keen to talk about the win, but a whole rash of threads started to come out to start talking about the play-offs. I wanted to talk about the win but it was all awash with top 6 talk.

At the end of the day it was just one game and we should have celebrated it as such. It will stand in isolation unless we can follow it up with further decent results.

No doubt if we lose tonight there will be loads of threads on how we're going to be relegated again. :facepalm:

Let's just enjoy each win as it comes. It we start winning a few in a row then we can start getting our hopes up and if we lose a few in a row then we can start looking over our shoulders a bit more.
 

skyblueman

New Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #61
1nilandwe... said:
Correction: A lot of boring bullshit.

We should be allowed to be optimistic after a 5-0 win surely? Could everyone just let people be happy for a bit for a change instead of shouting them down?
Wouldn't it be nice if more people up the Ricoh were optimistic? What a nicer atmosphere that would be, instead of flipping between an angry mob and a funeral procession.
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You HAVE to be an OPTIMIST to support CCFC - FACT - if you weren't you've done yourself in years ago.. although thinking about it maybe that's why our gates are down so much

We win 5 bloody nil away and I'm the biggest optimist going - going win every game from now on in my mind ... deluded .. of course ... happy? hell yes when we're winning

That's football that why you love your team - if your'e going to get all scientific and analytical over it you're in the wrong sport
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #62
skyblueman said:
You HAVE to be an OPTIMIST to support CCFC - FACT - if you weren't you've done yourself in years ago.. although thinking about it maybe that's why our gates are down so much

We win 5 bloody nil away and I'm the biggest optimist going - going win every game from now on in my mind ... deluded .. of course ... happy? hell yes when we're winning

That's football that why you love your team - if your'e going to get all scientific and analytical over it you're in the wrong sport
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As many have said though it's one 5-0 win, Otis said more than happy to say how pleased he is with a 5-0 win away, just not going to say it means play-offs.

It's the overly-optimistic who are getting all scientific and analytical over it by somehow extrapolating one 5-0 win away to Hartlepool to a top 6 finish.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #63
Right, there's only one way to settle this... Please can whoever is currently winning the Prediction League, predict the result of every game from the BBC Predictor here -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/predictor/default.stm

and post a screengrab of the final table. Ta
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #64
Usually do it with about 12 games to go ..... not 28!!!

Haven't got that much time on my hands.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #65
Otis said:
Usually do it with about 12 games to go ..... not 28!!!

Haven't got that much time on my hands.
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Says Mr 9,747 posts...
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #66
MusicDating said:
Says Mr 9,747 posts...
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I do have to eat and breathe in and out you know!
 

sky_blue_up_north

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #67
dongonzalos said:
1 Sheffield United 10 2.10
2 Bournemouth 10 1.90
3 Colchester United 10 1.90
4 Doncaster Rovers 10 1.90
5 Swindon Town 10 1.80
6 Crawley Town 10 1.80
7 Milton Keynes Dons 10 1.80
8 Coventry City 10 1.70
9 Tranmere Rovers 10 1.70
10 Brentford 10 1.70
11 Preston North End 10 1.60
12 Stevenage 10 1.60
13 Yeovil Town 10 1.50
14 Notts County 10 1.30
15 Portsmouth 10 1.30
16 Crewe Alexandra 10 1.30
17 Bury 10 1.20
18 Oldham Athletic 10 1.10
19 Leyton Orient 11 1.09
20 Scunthorpe United 10 0.90
21 Shrewsbury Town 10 0.80
22 Carlisle United 10 0.80
23 Walsall 10 0.60
24 Hartlepool United
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Interesting if everyone thinks the game against Colchester will be easy
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #68
kg82 said:
Be in pain no more, the games the op was talking about was after the 5 game losing streak! This included Carlisle!
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That is is exactly what I meant. Personally I think those 5 defeats were as a direct result of off field matters.

I am not saying we would have won five matches.

I just don't think we would have lost all 5.

Maybe a mixture of wins draws and defeats.

I find it hard to include those results when we look at our form and some suggest we are in a relegation battle.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #69
Grendel said:
This is a based off everything Don says - 5 games. The 5th game was Robins first in charge and if we had won the game it sure would be included.

We have had 11 games with the new manager in charge. You can't just expunge the game as it was a defeat.

It's 17 points from 11 games.
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am excluding it as it is a defeat?
or because the bloke is likely to have had one training session with the players. I find it very harsh to attribute that defeat to him.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2012
  • #70
Grendel said:
This is a based off everything Don says - 5 games. The 5th game was Robins first in charge and if we had won the game it sure would be included.

We have had 11 games with the new manager in charge. You can't just expunge the game as it was a defeat.

It's 17 points from 11 games.
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Also I include it in a period of unsettlement that affected namby pamby players
 
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