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Planning application for Higgs submitted by Wasps (1 Viewer)

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italiahorse

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #211
Monners said:
I buy a ticket from CCFC for a CCFC game at the Ricoh, I don't buy anything there. The bar shutters are pulled down after and hour and out we all we all had to shuffle. As you appear simple as well as selfish, here goes: - I personally didn't buy anything from the bar. Others did, which is their choice of course.

You are an embarrassment to our club (just to clarify, that's Cov City, not Wasps)
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People who are embarrassment to the club are those that insult fellow fans.
What in your opinion have I done wrong ? ......................
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #212
Those attending Wasps are worse than those who attended Northampton imo
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #213
 
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Monners

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #214
italiahorse said:
People who are embarrassment to the club are those that insult fellow fans.
What in your opinion have I done wrong ? ......................
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I don't insult fellow fans - just one fan, you.
What have you done wrong? Well, when our club dies, I suspect you will just shrug shoulders and think " Hey ho, I'm alright Jack, at least I've got Wasps to go and watch. And I'm making a few quid too!"
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #215
italiahorse said:
People who are embarrassment to the club are those that insult fellow fans.
What in your opinion have I done wrong ? ......................
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You are contributing financially to an organisation who seeks to remove this football club out of its city or at the very least marginalise it permanently.

By refusing to acknowledge your error and boycotting this threat in the future you are endorsing the threat. You can't really have any affinity for the football club at all.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #216
Monners said:
I don't insult fellow fans - just one fan, you.
What have you done wrong? Well, when our club dies, I suspect you will just shrug shoulders and think " Hey ho, I'm alright Jack, at least I've got Wasps to go and watch. And I'm making a few quid too!"
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So it's because I go to Wasps matches and also make money from Wasps fans ?
If I stay away and close my business how will that help ?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #217
Grendel said:
You are contributing financially to an organisation who seeks to remove this football club out of its city or at the very least marginalise it permanently.
By refusing to acknowledge your error and boycotting this threat in the future you are endorsing the threat. You can't really have any affinity for the football club at all.
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But how will it help the situation if I stay away ?
The threat has happened the question is how we make the best of it.
We can try and bring Wasps down to our level or bring ourselves up to their level.
I suggest a lot on here would sooner we both fail. Highlighted by people effectively saying we should ignore the Wasps olive branch in regards the Higgs.
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #218
italiahorse said:
So it's because I go to Wasps matches and also make money from Wasps fans ?
If I stay away and close my business how will that help ?
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You need to pick a side Italia. You can't have it both ways.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #219
italiahorse said:
But how will it help the situation if I stay away ?
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Frankly is that a serious response.

It will help as it shows CCFC fans are united against Wasps and agree the untold damage they are doing to the club.

You boycott something if you find it morally reprehensible.

Didn't you once say on here that you could hold your head high as you never went to Sixfields?

Ok so now start a thread saying you can hold your head high as you will not be attending wasps next season and have thrown your season ticket renewal form in the bin.
 
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #220
fernandopartridge said:
Those attending Wasps are worse than those who attended Northampton imo
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There was nothing wrong with attending Northampton !!
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #221
Grendel said:
Frankly is that a serious response.

It will help as it shows CCFC fans are united against Wasps and agree the untold damage they are doing to the club.

You boycott something if you find it morally reprehensible.

Didn't you once say on here that you could hold your head high as you never went to Sixfields?

Ok so now start a thread saying you can hold your head high as you will not be attending wasps next season and have thrown your season ticket renewal form in the bin.
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How will Wasps know I'm not attending ?
I quite enjoy watching it. Firm in the knowledge that the damage was done long before they arrived.
Never had a go at Sixfields attendees but did advise them of Sisu plan they were supporting.
I've already renewed. Same as my CCFC ticket. That's 49 years now !!
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #222
italiahorse said:
But still pursue it.
Armstrong has offered to help so lets get all the details.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/wasps-offer-help-coventry-city-11416081
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It is an empty offer, it doesn't meet Cat 2 academy regulations, more over, they are taking 2 of the remaining 4 outdoor pitch's for sole use, will use a third for 1/2 the time so that leaves just one public pitch. There is no way the academy will be able to stay at the higgs.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/were-delighted-choice-wasps-chief-11417729

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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #223
italiahorse said:
How will Wasps know I'm not attending ?
I quite enjoy watching it. Firm in the knowledge that the damage was done long before they arrived.
Never had a go at Sixfields attendees but did advise them of Sisu plan they were supporting.
I've already renewed. Same as my CCFC ticket. That's 49 years now !!
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Just like to say you're even getting on my nerves now!
 
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #224
stupot07 said:
It is an empty offer, it doesn't meet Cat 2 academy regulations, more over, they are taking 2 of the remaining 4 outdoor pitch's for sole use, will use a third for 1/2 the time so that leaves just one public pitch. There is no way the academy will be able to stay at the higgs.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/were-delighted-choice-wasps-chief-11417729

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There's Six outdoor pitches if you count the Astro turf one.
I go twice a week and I have never seen the top 3 pitches used.
The indoor pitch will be available to the academy. It will even have fitness monitoring which is a requirement of Cat 1 !!
I don't know whether the academy can still meet Cat 2, all I'm saying is that CCFC should pursue it.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #225
italiahorse said:
There's Six outdoor pitches if you count the Astro turf one.
I go twice a week and I have never seen the top 3 pitches used.
The indoor pitch will be available to the academy. It will even have fitness monitoring which is a requirement of Cat 1 !!
I don't know whether the academy can still meet Cat 2, all I'm saying is that CCFC should pursue it.
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You need primacy to have a cat 2 academy, I posted a screen shot of the rules.



I go every Saturday and most Saturdays all of the pitches are being used

3 hours in the evening and access to 1.5 pitches is not enough.

And actually excluding the astro, there are 4 pitches actually.



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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #226
Grendel said:
You are contributing financially to an organisation who seeks to remove this football club out of its city or at the very least marginalise it permanently.
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Wasn't that the argument for all those who paid to see CCFC at Northampton?
 
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #227
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Just like to say you're even getting on my nerves now!
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I don't care as long as it makes people think of solutions rather than problems.
Just throwing a few ideas out there, but being challenged on my attendance and business, because of it.
It's not me bringing my personal situation up but I reserve the right to respond.
Bullies always tackle the easy targets rather than the actual problem.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #228
stupot07 said:
You need primacy to have a cat 2 academy, I posted a screen shot of the rules.



I go every Saturday and most Saturdays all of the pitches are being used

3 hours in the evening and access to 1.5 pitches is not enough.

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There is scope within that document, surely ?
The current indoor pitch is not exclusively used by the academy at the moment.
All I'm saying is pursue it !!
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #229
italiahorse said:
I don't care as long as it makes people think of solutions rather than problems.
Just throwing a few ideas out there, but being challenged on my attendance and business, because of it.
It's not me bringing my personal situation up but I reserve the right to respond.
Bullies always tackle the easy targets rather than the actual problem.
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I'm in Llandudno and I can still smell your bullshit from here.

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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #230
italiahorse said:
There is scope within that document, surely ?
The current indoor pitch is not exclusively used by the academy at the moment.
All I'm saying is pursue it !!
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The academy gets primacy - if they need it, they get it.

Oh and you've missed the bit about there only being 4 grass pitches.....



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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #231
is it even practical? I assume that Wasps will have several age group sides playing at weekends so using the pitches anyway. how many teams does a Premiership rugby club have?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #232
tisza said:
is it even practical? I assume that Wasps will have several age group sides playing at weekends so using the pitches anyway. how many teams does a Premiership rugby club have?
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No, but it doesn't matter. It sounds good as a headline and reading a headline is about the limit of capability for many.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #233
stupot07 said:
You need primacy to have a cat 2 academy, I posted a screen shot of the rules.



I go every Saturday and most Saturdays all of the pitches are being used

3 hours in the evening and access to 1.5 pitches is not enough.

And actually excluding the astro, there are 4 pitches actually.



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I can see 5 grass pitches there and one astro turf.
Wasp are having the main outdoor pitch next to the Higgs for their indoor pitch and the first pitch next to the astro as there outdoor pitch.
 

King of the Lesbians

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #234
italiahorse said:
Just throwing a few ideas out there, but being challenged on my attendance and business, because of it..
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Just a though, but maybe that's because yesterday you said would stop attending if any new staduim capacity was 15k or less with no chance of expansion. Or couldn't walk to it. Or some other bollocks...
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #235
italiahorse said:
I can see 5 grass pitches there and one astro turf.
Wasp are having the main outdoor pitch next to the Higgs for their indoor pitch and the first pitch next to the astro as there outdoor pitch.
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The one adjacent to the higgs (top right under the compass sign) is the one that is being replaced by the 'kicking barn', that leaves 4 + the astro.

Out of the 4, was get sole access to 2, and use a third half of the time.

That leaves 1 for public use and 1 that can be used half the time when wasps aren't using it.

Plus the astro.




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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #236
tisza said:
is it even practical? I assume that Wasps will have several age group sides playing at weekends so using the pitches anyway. how many teams does a Premiership rugby club have?
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Exactly what I said yesterday, even if Wasps offer does meat cat 2 facilities requirement. I'd question whether simply there is enough space for two massive sports academy to both be there.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #237
fernandopartridge said:
No, but it doesn't matter. It sounds good as a headline and reading a headline is about the limit of capability for many.
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The headline is the start, the art is to pursue it and see if it's feasible and within the academy rules which apparently can be stretched.
King of the Lesbians said:
Just a though, but maybe that's because yesterday you said would stop attending if any new staduim capacity was 15k or less with no chance of expansion. Or couldn't walk to it. Or some other bollocks...
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Nothing wrong in telling Sisu I wont be attending if the stadium is stuck at 15,000..
Helps them make the right decision.
The walk up bit is one of the reasons I like the Ricoh. But feel free to quote it at any opportunity.
For the record I would attend a stadium anywhere in the Coventry area providing it can be expanded to PL capacity when required.
I would also attend a smaller (non expandable) stadium if it was shown, without doubt, that the club needed to do it to survive.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #238
italiahorse said:
I don't care as long as it makes people think of solutions rather than problems.
Just throwing a few ideas out there, but being challenged on my attendance and business, because of it.
It's not me bringing my personal situation up but I reserve the right to respond.
Bullies always tackle the easy targets rather than the actual problem.
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Of course you don't care. Did the foundation say to the club look Wasps want to build their academy here do you want it we will give you time to sell Ryton and you buy it and move everything here? If the club said no then that would be a level playing field and we would be entitled to blame the club. But no they know that after June 17 the academy has nowhere to go,and that this will probably hasten the demise of the club. So you enjoy watching the Wasps because you won't be watching the City for much longer. Myself I'll be watching the real Coventry rugby club but you carry on taking your 30 pieces
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #239
italiahorse said:
There was nothing wrong with attending Northampton !!
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I was just about to stick up for you, before I read this !!!
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #240
What is italia's asset at the Ricoh? Is it a car park?
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #241
torchomatic said:
I'm in Llandudno and I can still smell your bullshit from here.

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Go and have a pint you're on holiday I assume !?
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #242
fernandopartridge said:
What is italia's asset at the Ricoh? Is it a car park?
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Err yes, everyone knows that don't they ?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #243
Ashdown said:
Err yes, everyone knows that don't they ?
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I've got him on ignore. I am just wondering which one it is so I can arrange a few concrete blocks to be dropped at the entrance.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #244
armybike said:
I fear I'll be shouted down for the above and not being passionate or caring about the club or predicament we face but this is totally misplaced - I'm simply hoping to offer people an overview of the position we find ourselves in.
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So in your view, objections to the site are ultimately futile to get any application rejected (there are no grounds that could be used for that) but may at least make some noise?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jun 2, 2016
  • #245
Deleted member 5849 said:
So in your view, objections to the site are ultimately futile to get any application rejected (there are no grounds that could be used for that) but may at least make some noise?
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You want noise
 
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