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luwalla

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  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #176
coop said:
SISU turned down a good deal they are the only ones to blame for the mess we are in.
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The club turned down A DEAL.. weather it was a GOOD DEAL, or the RIGHT DEAL , none of us really know... we can all throw our opinions around , like they are fact , and blame one side or the other for this mess but none of us really know

My suspicion is that ACL simply werent in a position to offer the deal that the club needed due to their historical deal with compass
 
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Matty_CCFC

New Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #177
luwalla said:
The club turned down A DEAL.. weather it was a GOOD DEAL, or the RIGHT DEAL , none of us really know... we can all throw our opinions around , like they are fact , and blame one side or the other for this mess but none of us really know

My suspicion is that ACL simply werent in a position to offer the deal that the club needed due to their historical deal with compass
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I think your suspicions maybe correct.!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #178
stupot07 said:
Surely that's changing the goalposts from the original agreement that the club gets first refusal to buy back its share in ACL?
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That isn't what the club gets.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #179
torchomatic said:
Does BSB give you a tenner for every time you say that?

Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2
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Sorry to say Torch I'm in no way affiliated to Dongo Enterprises. You can have £1 though:

'Contracts are there to be broken'
 
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SkyBlueSwiss

New Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #180
dongonzalos said:
Sounds familiar
No investor in the world would want to buy CCFC.....
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Grenduffy still refuses to accept he was wrong about this.
The fool says we don't know what the bids contained, so there is no proof that there really were any other bids.
The guy is a fool and is incapable of seeing reality when it slaps him in the face.

HEY GRENDEL: DID ANYONE ELSE BID FOR CCFC? WERE THERE OTHER BIDDERS? Honest answer please!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #181
He has a point however that one of the bidders had doubt cast on his ability to purchase club and ground, along with being backed in his consortium by one (two) of the dismal failures of past regimes, who also contributed to where we are now.

Meanwhile the other two bids may as well have been me, and a Deleted member 5849 affiliated company, for all we know about them. They might have been the real deal, might have been Spencer Trethewy.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #182
Deleted member 5849 said:
He has a point however that one of the bidders had doubt cast on his ability to purchase club and ground, along with being backed in his consortium by one (two) of the dismal failures of past regimes, who also contributed to where we are now.

Meanwhile the other two bids may as well have been me, and a Deleted member 5849 affiliated company, for all we know about them. They might have been the real deal, might have been Spencer Trethewy.
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There are none so blind...............
 
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SkyBlueSwiss

New Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #183
luwalla said:
The club turned down A DEAL.. weather it was a GOOD DEAL, or the RIGHT DEAL , none of us really know... we can all throw our opinions around , like they are fact , and blame one side or the other for this mess but none of us really know

My suspicion is that ACL simply werent in a position to offer the deal that the club needed due to their historical deal with compass
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If my memory serves me well (which it may not - I am not the youngest around here!), Mr Tim Fisher said that it was a good deal, and then Joy told him it was not acceptable.
Please let me know if this is correct or not.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #184
SkyBlueSwiss said:
If my memory serves me well (which it may not - I am not the youngest around here!), Mr Tim Fisher said that it was a good deal, and then Joy told him it was not acceptable.
Please let me know if this is correct or not.
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TF was under instruction to not accept any deal which would still require SISU's investment next season.
 
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SkyBlueSwiss

New Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #185
Deleted member 5849 said:
He has a point however that one of the bidders had doubt cast on his ability to purchase club and ground, along with being backed in his consortium by one (two) of the dismal failures of past regimes, who also contributed to where we are now.

Meanwhile the other two bids may as well have been me, and a Deleted member 5849 affiliated company, for all we know about them. They might have been the real deal, might have been Spencer Trethewy.
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That is a truly pathetic response North and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting such utter nonsense.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #186
SkyBlueSwiss said:
That is a truly pathetic response North and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting such utter nonsense.
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So just what bit of what I wrote is wrong then?
 
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SkyBlueSwiss

New Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #187
Deleted member 5849 said:
So just what bit of what I wrote is wrong then?
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I refuse to get involved in such a stupid discussion. You know damn well what utter tripe you are posting, and if that is genuinely your stance rather than you just being a WUM, then you just went down immensely in my estimation of your intelligence.
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #188
Deleted member 5849 said:
So just what bit of what I wrote is wrong then?
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You make yourself a bit obvious discrediting anything non sisu !!!!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #189
SkyBlueSwiss said:
I refuse to get involved in such a stupid discussion. You know damn well what utter tripe you are posting, and if that is genuinely your stance rather than you just being a WUM, then you just went down immensely in my estimation of your intelligence.
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So basically, nothing of what I wrote is wrong, then.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #190
SkyBlueSwiss said:
That is a truly pathetic response North and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting such utter nonsense.
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I can't see what is wrong with it?

If we don't know about 2 of the bidders then they could have been anybody surely?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #191
sky blue john said:
You make yourself a bit obvious discrediting anything non sisu !!!!
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Obvious in what way? About what?
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #192
SkyBlueSwiss said:
If my memory serves me well (which it may not - I am not the youngest around here!), Mr Tim Fisher said that it was a good deal, and then Joy told him it was not acceptable.
Please let me know if this is correct or not.
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
TF was under instruction to not accept any deal which would still require SISU's investment next season.
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im not aware of either of those being the case.... i have, however, heard / seen numerous times that Tim Fisher say that the deal offered by ACL was very generous in terms of the rent reduction & that the club were grateful for that offer.. however it would not have given them the match day food & beverage income which they felt they needed to raise their turnover, to meet FFP rules.. so overall the deal still wasnt going to work for them
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #193
Nick said:
I can't see what is wrong with it?

If we don't know about 2 of the bidders then they could have been anybody surely?
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It's where this forum gets laughable with its leaps of logic.

By pointing that out (and also suggesting they might have been the real deal, but we don't know) somehow this makes me pro SISU.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #194
Can someone summarise the point of this thread I have just spent twenty minutes of my life (Which I will never recoup) trying to understand what was said and I still don't
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #195
RoboCCFC90 said:
Can someone summarise the point of this thread I have just spent twenty minutes of my life (Which I will never recoup) trying to understand what was said and I still don't
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PWKH went to Trust AGM, go to CJ's Twitter to find out more.

Summerisle and Nonleagueherewecome have a lovers' tiff, Swiss is disappointed with me and won't be going on a third date.
 
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SkyBlueSwiss

New Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #196
Nick said:
I can't see what is wrong with it?

If we don't know about 2 of the bidders then they could have been anybody surely?
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My last comment on this: Nick, are you actually trying to say that PH4 was not a genuine bid?
This is nonsense and you know it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #197
SkyBlueSwiss said:
Grenduffy still refuses to accept he was wrong about this.
The fool says we don't know what the bids contained, so there is no proof that there really were any other bids.
The guy is a fool and is incapable of seeing reality when it slaps him in the face.

HEY GRENDEL: DID ANYONE ELSE BID FOR CCFC? WERE THERE OTHER BIDDERS? Honest answer please!
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When jo dinsah wanted to buy the club would you have termed him a bidder?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #198
luwalla said:
im not aware of either of those being the case.... i have, however, heard / seen numerous times that Tim Fisher say that the deal offered by ACL was very generous in terms of the rent reduction & that the club were grateful for that offer.. however it would not have given them the match day food & beverage income which they felt they needed to raise their turnover, to meet FFP rules.. so overall the deal still wasnt going to work for them
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The bit about not accepting anything which would still give the club a loss was mentioned in the answers given to the Trust a while back.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #199
Grendel said:
When jo dinsah wanted to buy the club would you have termed him a bidder?
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Did he ever formally bid?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #200
SkyBlueSwiss said:
My last comment on this: Nick, are you actually trying to say that PH4 was not a genuine bid?
This is nonsense and you know it.
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I repeat, what bit of what I put is wrong?

Did ACL's preferred choice of admi9nistrator cast doubt on his ability to buy both club and ground, or not?

Is he backed by two of the failures of the past (one, in Elliott, being particularly impressive in backing hopeless cases and enthusing about them as they destroy the fabric of our club).
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #201
SkyBlueSwiss said:
My last comment on this: Nick, are you actually trying to say that PH4 was not a genuine bid?
This is nonsense and you know it.
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Guilfoyle almost laughed out loud when he was asked if Haskell was a serious contender and given he dealt with him at Leeds he should have some insight.
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #202
Grendel said:
When jo dinsah wanted to buy the club would you have termed him a bidder?
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You seem to be getting further out of date with your comments surely dinsah gate was nearly 10 years ago !!!
Can you not come up with something new current ?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #203
SkyBlueSwiss said:
My last comment on this: Nick, are you actually trying to say that PH4 was not a genuine bid?
This is nonsense and you know it.
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I don't know do I, I haven't seen the paperwork so I can't comment on what was bid or what was proposed.

To be fair, Joe Elliott did help get SISU in didn't he? I have never met him, so I am not saying anything bad against him. Just trying to see both sides

"This is a very exciting day in the long, proud history of Coventry City Football Club and I am positive that will be reflected in the attendance for Saturday's game against Southampton," said Elliott.

"I am sure that Ray Ranson and Sisu Capital will help drive Coventry City forward into a brand new era for the club.
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #204
Deleted member 5849 said:
PWKH went to Trust AGM, go to CJ's Twitter to find out more.

Summerisle and Nonleagueherewecome have a lovers' tiff, Swiss is disappointed with me and won't be going on a third date.
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Sorry to hear that for you mate, but you never know plenty more fish and all that..
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #205
Nick said:
I don't know do I, I haven't seen the paperwork so I can't comment on what was bid or what was proposed.

To be fair, Joe Elliott did help get SISU in didn't he? I have never met him, so I am not saying anything bad against him. Just trying to see both sides
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Well, they sure have led us into a brand new era alright.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #206
Grendel said:
Guilfoyle almost laughed out loud when he was asked if Haskell was a serious contender and given he dealt with him at Leeds he should have some insight.
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"Guilfoyle almost laughed out loud" - were you there or was it televised?

Given that Guilfoyle also made some unflattering comments about Appleton's performance, we can assume that you agree with those.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #207
sky blue john said:
You make yourself a bit obvious discrediting anything non sisu !!!!
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As you do which isn't praising ACL.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #208
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
"Guilfoyle almost laughed out loud" - were you there or was it televised?

Given that Guilfoyle also made some unflattering comments about Appleton's performance, we can assume that you agree with those.
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It was a radio interview, just prior to the last game of the season.
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #209
dongonzalos said:
Maybe you will still be dining of this in six and half years as well
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At least he has something worth dining out on
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2013
  • #210
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
"Guilfoyle almost laughed out loud" - were you there or was it televised?

Given that Guilfoyle also made some unflattering comments about Appleton's performance, we can assume that you agree with those.
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No sour grapes there though eh?
 
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