PITTER PATTER FOOTBALL - Is it really that good ??? (3 Viewers)

johnniericoh · Jun 3, 2012

So Brendan Rodgers is going to revolutionise Liverpool's style of play by instilling the "passing game" so successfully practiced by Barcelona and mimicked occasionally by Arsenal.

Having watched Barca many times I was, at first, mesmerised by the length of possession, ball control, vision, overall skill etc but of late I just find it totally boring.

Yes there are occasions of absolute brilliance by Messi et al that defy football logic but for vast periods of the game it feels like "pitter patter" football with 50/60 passes strung together across the park and backwards before something interesting happens.

Having watched some of the English clubs in the Champions league, the Prem League and to a lesser extent the playoffs for sheer excitement and crowd pleasing enjoyment English style of play surely rivals or betters pitter patter football.

Yes it resembles 100 mph football at times but it is at least end to end, swift breakaways, shots pinging in from everywhere. Scores of 8-2, 6-1, 5-3, 4-4 abound in the Premiership with bottom teams beating top teams with regularity.

Yes Brendan you go ahead, pass the opposition to death but I'm looking forward to more of the "up and at 'em" English style of football next season and hope pitter patter doesn't take off here and is confined primarily to the Spanish leagues where it belongs.

PUSB

valiant15 · Jun 3, 2012

Give me la liga over the overated prem any day.

We'll_live_and_die · Jun 3, 2012

It seemed to work well for him at Swansea, who were above Arsenal on number of passes comgleted last season.

Otis · Jun 3, 2012

Pace I always find to be the most exciting football. You just can't beat having a team attack another team at pace.

The best football we have played over the past 12 years was under Eric Black and we played counter-attacking football at pace with very quick players.

Sky Blue Kid · Jun 3, 2012

There is a lot to be said for both styles. Football at pace is exciting to watch, but the "Barca" style, although slower can produce some fabulous goals. The perfect example is obviously Messi, He alone has scored as many goals in 2011-2012 (50) that CCFC as a team have scored in the same season. So the jury is out for me

Sky Blue Sheepy · Jun 3, 2012

I like the passing game but to properly enjoy it, I like it with the pace of the English game. As said, I would much rather see a finely threaded ball played through to a winger whos made a clever run than the 50/60 passes moving 1" at a time. Personally I think Rodgers did that with Swansea. It was.pass & move with a hint of flair at a speed that epitomised the best bits of the English game. Outside of Real Madrid, the Spanish league just doesn't do it for me.

Otis · Jun 3, 2012

You get the kind of feeling that Barcelona could have won games in the first 20-30 mins if they went for the throat a bit more.

They seem content to go a goal up and then just knock it about and keep possession. They certainly have the ability to play possession football and attack at pace.

diggerdaley · Jun 3, 2012

I was never impressed with the Keiron Westwood big hoof to Leon Best style.:thinking about:

Marty · Jun 3, 2012

What ever formation or style of play you choose, you need a system to suit the players that you have.

sky blue john · Jun 3, 2012

Your right JR i have found the Barca style of play boring. I do admire though what they have achieved with this style of play and can not knock it as a winning formula.

SkyBlueMania · Jun 3, 2012

johnniericoh said:
So Brendan Rodgers is going to revolutionise Liverpool's style of play by instilling the "passing game" so successfully practiced by Barcelona and mimicked occasionally by Arsenal.

Having watched Barca many times I was, at first, mesmerised by the length of possession, ball control, vision, overall skill etc but of late I just find it totally boring.

Yes there are occasions of absolute brilliance by Messi et al that defy football logic but for vast periods of the game it feels like "pitter patter" football with 50/60 passes strung together across the park and backwards before something interesting happens.

Having watched some of the English clubs in the Champions league, the Prem League and to a lesser extent the playoffs for sheer excitement and crowd pleasing enjoyment English style of play surely rivals or betters pitter patter football.

Yes it resembles 100 mph football at times but it is at least end to end, swift breakaways, shots pinging in from everywhere. Scores of 8-2, 6-1, 5-3, 4-4 abound in the Premiership with bottom teams beating top teams with regularity.

Yes Brendan you go ahead, pass the opposition to death but I'm looking forward to more of the "up and at 'em" English style of football next season and hope pitter patter doesn't take off here and is confined primarily to the Spanish leagues where it belongs.

PUSB

Thank the lord I am not the only one. I have gotten in to some serious arguments over this. Generally people laugh at you when you tell them THAT YOU THINK Barca play predominantly boring football interspersed with moments of magic. The key point being this is my opinion of which everyone is permitted to have. Generally the responses I get are to be ridiculed as i obviously know nothing at all about football as everyone knows Barcelona are just the dogs bollocks and anyone who disagrees is a total moron. Watching Barca play a standard league match against mid table opposition is beyond dull.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jun 3, 2012

Depends how it is played, Spain in the world cup where they won nearly every game 1-0 were very boring to watch however I normally like to watch Barcelona. For me the Arsenal of old with Henry, Pires, Bergkamp were for me the best side to watch.

stupot07 · Jun 3, 2012

I enjoy passing football, but pacy counter attacks mixed in with passing football is what I like.

As much as the PL and English football is exciting, the 100 mph open football hinders the national team. More of our top England players need to move abroad and experience different ways of playing.

pusbccfc · Jun 3, 2012

Barcelona have flopped over the last few months.

Against Chelsea and many of times when taking on Real, they flopped due to the lack of plan b.
Chelsea had a fantastic game plan of having 6 behind the ball and 3 just in front with a lone striker. This made it very hard for the Barca players including Messi to break through. This meant their wing backs began pushing forward leaving a gap for Torres.

I believe Barca wouldn't be as rated in the prem.
For a start the more physical teams would batter them, causing confidence to drop.

For Coventry?

Well we mostly disliked the long ball football, but it did work well before Christmas? No one was bothered then?

We lacked a Plan B, when many teams found us out, with a Plan B, we would of looked very hopeful for promotion that year.

When Thorn came along he brought in passing football that seen wins many weeks.

But then once again we lacked a Plan B, which is why we struggled to go forward!

stupot07 · Jun 3, 2012

To be honest pusbccfc Barca have struggled since David Villa's injury. Had some of the Barca chances have fallen to him, instead of cesc and Busquets Chelsea would have been knocked out in the semi. He's the other main goal threat, but with him injured it was all down to Messi to score the goals.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jun 3, 2012

pusbccfc said:
I believe Barca wouldn't be as rated in the prem.
For a start the more physical teams would batter them, causing confidence to drop.

Apart from this season, Barcelona have won the league many times over the last few seasons and they have a fantastic H2H record vs Real Madrid under Guardiola. Real Madrid under Mourinho are as physical as any side in the premierleague.

Chipfat · Jun 3, 2012

Most of the world do love the pace and excitment of the Premiership, but the way they educate the youth footballers is completely different to this country. Abroad they except at an early age that control and possesion of the ball is the most important thing, until they are old enough to be shown the next step. The UK put all the assets like Pace ,Power, Size and winning before technique, hoping we can then teach technique after you have found your monster, horse before the cart, if you ask me.

I do however think in the game you have enough room for both style's and by each taking bits from each others games we would see the best in the football. The problem is the FA have only just caught on and we have been educated a different way, but in 20 years our kids will see Barca as or hear of Barca being one of the best teams to ever play the game.....

Nonleagueherewecome · Jun 3, 2012

I love the passing style- I loved it when Liverpool did it in the 80's, and even when they were slaughtering us, I couldn't help but admire it. I loved the great Holland and Brazil sides that played that way, and you had to admire the way Wenger got that Arsenal side playing. Swansea were the most enjoyable side to watch in the Premiership last season. As Clough said, "If God had intended us to play football in the sky, he'd have put grass up there!".

Macca · Jun 3, 2012

Yes but there is productive passing mixed with tempo lIke Liverpool played and then the modern day boring chess like football played at snails pace

stupot07 · Jun 3, 2012

To be fair Macca, that's because Chelsea defended very deep with everyone behind the ball. That worked for them, but that is why it looked so boring. There was nothing boring about last seasons champions league win v united.

LeamingtonBootBoy · Jun 3, 2012

johnniericoh said:
So Brendan Rodgers is going to revolutionise Liverpool's style of play by instilling the "passing game" so successfully practiced by Barcelona and mimicked occasionally by Arsenal.

Having watched Barca many times I was, at first, mesmerised by the length of possession, ball control, vision, overall skill etc but of late I just find it totally boring.

Yes there are occasions of absolute brilliance by Messi et al that defy football logic but for vast periods of the game it feels like "pitter patter" football with 50/60 passes strung together across the park and backwards before something interesting happens.

Having watched some of the English clubs in the Champions league, the Prem League and to a lesser extent the playoffs for sheer excitement and crowd pleasing enjoyment English style of play surely rivals or betters pitter patter football.

Yes it resembles 100 mph football at times but it is at least end to end, swift breakaways, shots pinging in from everywhere. Scores of 8-2, 6-1, 5-3, 4-4 abound in the Premiership with bottom teams beating top teams with regularity.

Yes Brendan you go ahead, pass the opposition to death but I'm looking forward to more of the "up and at 'em" English style of football next season and hope pitter patter doesn't take off here and is confined primarily to the Spanish leagues where it belongs.

PUSB

We play the beautiful game....and look what we have achieved using this system....:facepalm:

Coventry La La La · Jun 3, 2012

LeamingtonBootBoy said:
We play the beautiful game....and look what we have achieved using this system....:facepalm:

Any system requires financial backing to be success-full. :facepalm:

SkyBlueArmy · Jun 3, 2012

Aslong as you play to your players strenghs, play to your opisitions weakness's and keep your defence solid at the back then you should succseed

ccfcway · Jun 3, 2012

Marty said:
What ever formation or style of play you choose, you need a system to suit the players that you have.

is there such a thing as the happy meal system

cloughie · Jun 3, 2012

Rich said:
It seemed to work well for him at Swansea, who were above Arsenal on number of passes comgleted last season.

And where did arsenal finish in the PL .........well above swansea

cloughie · Jun 3, 2012

LeamingtonBootBoy said:
We play the beautiful game....and look what we have achieved using this system....:facepalm:

If you are referring to England , then I beleive the problem has been we try to play a europian style game that we aren;t used to instead of playing to our strengths

Even as far back as the hand of god goal we tried to play argentina at their own game until we went behind , then we upt the tempo and played our natural game

we had them all over the place they couldn't handle it at pace

Yes I know you will say we lost ........but undeserverdly

LeamingtonBootBoy · Jun 4, 2012

Coventry La La La said:
Any system requires financial backing to be success-full. :facepalm:

Or some coaching and tactical/motivational nous....???:thinking about:

LeamingtonBootBoy · Jun 4, 2012

cloughie said:
If you are referring to England , then I beleive the problem has been we try to play a europian style game that we aren;t used to instead of playing to our strengths

Even as far back as the hand of god goal we tried to play argentina at their own game until we went behind , then we upt the tempo and played our natural game

we had them all over the place they couldn't handle it at pace

Yes I know you will say we lost ........but undeserverdly

I was referring to the Godfathers of the Beautiful Game....Andy 'Total Football' Thorn, and Steve 'one-touch' Harrison.....:facepalm:

Nick · Jun 4, 2012

Why are people so impressed by pass stats? It should be goals surely?

Who cares if a team has 90% possession if they lose 1-0

Grendel · Jun 4, 2012

LeamingtonBootBoy said:
I was referring to the Godfathers of the Beautiful Game....Andy 'Total Football' Thorn, and Steve 'one-touch' Harrison.....:facepalm:

It does seem rather ironic that now ticket staff are sacked, mediocre players are rejecting contracts the one who will stay regardless is our manager. I wonder why?

cornoccfc · Jun 4, 2012

johnniericoh said:
Yes Brendan you go ahead, pass the opposition to death but I'm looking forward to more of the "up and at 'em" English style of football next season and hope pitter patter doesn't take off here and is confined primarily to the Spanish leagues where it belongs.
PUSB

:claping hands::claping hands::claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

Nick · Jun 4, 2012

kduffy said:
It does seem rather ironic that now ticket staff are sacked, mediocre players are rejecting contracts the one who will stay regardless is our manager. I wonder why?

Because fans love him because he is a nice bloke!

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