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Pistorious (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Nick
  • Start date Sep 11, 2014
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #1
Not guilty of murder..
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #2
Utter shite......
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #3
predictable but will culpable homicide stick
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #4
Think all she has said so far is that he didn't plan it and wont call it murder

"It follows that the accused's erroneous belief that his life was in danger excludes dolus. The accused therefore cannot be found guilty of murder, dolus eventualis. That however is not the end of the matter, as culpable homicide is a competent verdict," said Judge Masipa

The final judgement could take a while to come out yet. He hasn't been found not guilty as yet
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #5
This is why before I kill my wife I intend to be famous first.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #6
And rich !
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #7
It's absolutely crazy to me to suggest that upon firing 4 shots through a door you did not foresee that the person on the other side would be killed.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #8
It's a farce, he's an actor. He may not have premeditated this murder for days but I'm pretty sure he pre meditated it long enough for it to be premeditated !
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Sep 11, 2014
  • #9
I said he was guilty from the start. The bloke is a loose cannon. A nutter where guns are concerned. They had an arguement, he threatened her, she ran to the bathroom to lock herself away from his temper. He picked up his gun, went to the bathroom and shot through the door at her. Case closed M'Lud!
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 12, 2014
  • #10
Agree wiv houchey, Its crazy, course its murder, im sorry but how can any judge justify who eva was behind the bathroom door, wouldnt be dead, reeva ør an intruder op fired 4 shots intending to kill the person. In my opinion
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 12, 2014
  • #11
This is where people get confused with the law. There was not enough proof to categorically state it was murder. Whether you think it was or it wasn't is irrelevant.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 12, 2014
  • #12
Guilty of manslaughter though, will he pass go?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 12, 2014
  • #13
There will be some loophole he will exploit, clearly he has a cracking legal team. He was guilty as sin and amazed he got off with murder but he certainly cannot get away from manslaughter (but to what degree!)
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 12, 2014
  • #14
Not a chance he'll do any jail now I don't think......
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 12, 2014
  • #15
That judge looks like the little old lady that lived next door to my Nan
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #16
lewys33 said:
This is where people get confused with the law. There was not enough proof to categorically state it was murder. Whether you think it was or it wasn't is irrelevant.
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And yet the three men who "accidentally" shot Sabrina Moss to death in London were sentenced to 37 years each for 'murder'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...7-years-street-gun-death-innocent-mother.html

How was Pistorious any less guilty than they were?
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #17
They'll probably put an ankle tag on him so they know where he is at all times :thinking about:
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #18
dutchman said:
And yet the three men who "accidentally" shot Sabrina Moss to death in London were sentenced to 37 years each for 'murder'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...7-years-street-gun-death-innocent-mother.html

How was Pistorious any less guilty than they were?
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......... Are you serious?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #19
LastGarrison said:
Not a chance he'll do any jail now I don't think......
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Of course he will. He can still get up to 15 years.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #20
He has said in his defence that "it was my first offence". Yeah, right. It was Hitlers first offence, it was the Yorkshire Rippers first offence, it was Idi Amin's first offence. Now don't get me wrong, but this was murder/manslaughter - not nicking a Mars bar from a shop!
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #21
Houchens Head said:
They'll probably put an ankle tag on him so they know where he is at all times :thinking about:
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:laugh:
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #22
He had one intention; to kill that person behind the door, whom ever it may have been. Wife, intruder, it doesn't matter; the intention was there. Why else would he have gone with that weapon otherwise, and why fire it so many times? Was always going to do more than just scare them off!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #23
lewys33 said:
Of course he will. He can still get up to 15 years.
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There is every possibility that it will be significantly less than that.

Its a case I'm afraid of a white celebrity receiving significantly favourable treatment in South Africa. Hopefully if the sentence is low then the prosecutors will lodge an appeal.
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #24
lewys33 said:
......... Are you serious?
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Totally.

Sabrina was not the gang's "intended" victim in the same way that Pistorious claims* that Reeva was not his intended victim.

*Not that i believe him.
 
Last edited: Sep 13, 2014

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #25
It's difficult for us in the UK to be objective, we don't understand their culture or gun laws, which like America are very different to ours. They way they think when someone breaks into their house if different to us.

For us owning a gun is alien, let alone firing one in your own home.

Whether he had intensions to kill her or not, it's down to the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did. His version of events were feasible, even though he was found to be an unreliable witness, it cast doubt. It didn't help that the prosecution witness were equally unreliable and inconsistent.

We will never know the real truth.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
 
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turlykerd

New Member
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #26
I don't understand all the accusations on here after he was found not guilty of murder ??

There is nothing wrong at all with firing off a few at a bathroom door ?

It's was just a terrible accident that his gf was holding it closed behind her.not expecting ol stubsy to be playing bam Bam with his toys
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 13, 2014
  • #27
stupot07 said:
It's difficult for us in the UK to be objective, we don't understand their culture or gun laws, which like America are very different to ours. They way they think when someone breaks into their house if different to us.
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Except there were no signs of any break in.

stupot07 said:
Whether he had intensions to kill her or not, it's down to the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did.
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So it's 'reasonable' to assume that - when sharing a house with someone else - if woken by someone using the bathroom in the middle of the night they must be an intruder who is armed and likely to inflict immediate serious injury on its occupants?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 15, 2014
  • #28
Grendel said:
There is every possibility that it will be significantly less than that.

Its a case I'm afraid of a white celebrity receiving significantly favourable treatment in South Africa. Hopefully if the sentence is low then the prosecutors will lodge an appeal.
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I know, hence why I said up to. Although it is ridiculous that he has been bailed. Hopefully that is the last of his freedom! Unfortunately I think you may be right about favourable treatment though.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 15, 2014
  • #29
dutchman said:
Totally.

Sabrina was not the gang's "intended" victim in the same way that Pistorious claims* that Reeva was not his intended victim.

*Not that i believe him.
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Yes but they DID plan on murdering the intended victim. It has not been proven that Pistorious planned to murder the so called "intruder". The 2 stories have no similarities what so ever.
 
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