There was a article I read a few months back about most electric cars today including the tesla, and you would have to drive a new vw golf petrol blue motion for 70k miles to create the same levels of pollution just to build the batteries required in electric cars. Its was to do with the mining of the metals needed etc, so in theory for the first 70k miles you are still more pollutant in a electric car, and that didn't include energy used when charging cars once you own them
no idea. It was a few months back when I read it so I cant remember all the details, just that you had to drive 70k miles in a new car today to have the same carbon footprint as it takes just to build the batteries in the electric cars today.That's crazy, but I suppose if it's cleaner energy, then better?
no idea. It was a few months back when I read it so I cant remember all the details, just that you had to drive 70k miles in a new car today to have the same carbon footprint as it takes just to build the batteries in the electric cars today.
They'll have to start making enough electric cars first wont they? Unless the supply of electric cars is enough to meet the demand, this won't happen.
In any case, this applies to 'new' vehicles only. Older petrol-powered vehicles will still be on the road for 20-30 years after that.
Petrol-powered vehicles will only disappear when petrol stations disappear.
i am currently working on an electric vehicle (HGV) and the amount of batteries that are required and the weight plus charging time make them completely pointless as they will never be cost efficient for companies and until people HAVE to buy them by law the best thing to do is steer clear of any electric vehicle imho. The batteries have to be replaced after 3 years as they start degrading and at 3-5 grand a time its just a ludicrous amount of money to have to pay to keep the same car and replace them!!
The batteries still degrade quickly so someone is left with a massive bill, are service and replacement parts significantly cheaper? Without sounding cynical I would bet that the free road tax you get now won't exsist if everyone has a electric car, that's a huge hole in tax income if it was abolished.Regarding cars the battery will be covered by a warranty period and also will pay for itself by fuel savings, road tax savings and significantly reduced service costs and replacement parts volume
The batteries still degrade quickly so someone is left with a massive bill, are service and replacement parts significantly cheaper? Without sounding cynical I would bet that the free road tax you get now won't exsist if everyone has a electric car, that's a huge hole in tax income if it was abolished.
if you say so :happy:
Maybe, but the pollutants are not in the City. Hey if this happens maybe sperm counts will return to 1970's levels!
Diesels are finished VAG saw to thatWell I can assure you most manufacturers will not be building conventional fuel injection vehicles well before 2040
Fly.4. What will we do with all the oil?
The life of a battery is 8-10 years or 80-100k miles. The average price of a new battery is £8-10k on a cheaper electric car, tesla up to 20k once you pay for fitting and recycling of the old battery. So in less than 8 years the car is worthless, as whoever has it has a bill of anywhere of £8-20k. Can see this one working.
I find the occasional top-up of distilled water is all my Midland Electric B25 has ever needed and as such I am sure the electric car power plants of the future will benefit from exactly the same? My only worry is, what will this do to the price of distilled water in the future?..... it will be worth more than gold by weight I can tell you, stock up!Battery life depends on a few things. Firstly the depth of discharge you take it to. All batteries have a limited number of cycles and the number of available cycles correlates to the depth of discharge. Basically the more energy you take out of a battery in a single discharge the fewer cycles it will give you. The other big thing in increasing/reducing a batteries life expectancy is the charging. If you don't recharge a battery correctly you can greatly reduce it's life.
The 8-10year or 80-100k will be under certain conditions. Human nature is that alot of people will take every last amp out the battery before putting it on recharge taking it to a deep depth of discharge and then take it of charge before the recharge cycle has finished because they've run out of milk and want to go to Tesco's.
I find the occasional top-up of distilled water is all my Midland Electric B25 has ever needed and as such I am sure the electric car power plants of the future will benefit from exactly the same? My only worry is, what will this do to the price of distilled water in the future?..... it will be worth more than gold by weight I can tell you, stock up!
The life of a battery is 8-10 years or 80-100k miles. The average price of a new battery is £8-10k on a cheaper electric car, tesla up to 20k once you pay for fitting and recycling of the old battery. So in less than 8 years the car is worthless, as whoever has it has a bill of anywhere of £8-20k. Can see this one working.
The lifetime ownership cost of an electric vehicle will be greater than that for a petrol-powered vehicle.Servicing will be around 50% cheaper. The forecast on battery life is it will significantly improve in the next decade.
The lifetime ownership cost of an electric vehicle will be greater than that for a petrol-powered vehicle.
They will have to be much lighter and thus much less durable.
The auto industry will ensure that maintenance costs equal or exceed that of petrol-powered vehicles. Whatever few parts need replacement will be exceedingly expensive.
How will these vehicles batteries hold up when someone is driving in the rain with their wipers, headlamps and air-conditioning on and listening to their car stereo?
You've got good old fashioned British engineered deep cycle wet lead acid batteries that you can maintain yourself. The batteries that are in modern electric cars are all dry cell and "maintenance" free batteries. I think you're safe on the cost of distilled water
Your batteries are also greener as they're 100% recyclable unlike lithium derived batteries.
I'm glad you mentioned recycling, I tend to recycle my old batteries by placing them atop a pile of old tyres and setting fire to it, are the new batteries fireproof or could they be recycled using this method?You've got good old fashioned British engineered deep cycle wet lead acid batteries that you can maintain yourself. The batteries that are in modern electric cars are all dry cell and "maintenance" free batteries. I think you're safe on the cost of distilled water
Your batteries are also greener as they're 100% recyclable unlike lithium derived batteries.
I'm glad you mentioned recycling, I tend to recycle my old batteries by placing them atop a pile of old tyres and setting fire to it, are the new batteries fireproof or could they be recycled using this method?
Also, if I find myself short of old tyres I recycle them by throwing them over my fence into the neighbours fish pond.
And how do we produce the electricity to charge the batteries?Many many things have to be sorted out. Electric isn't the future imo. How long will the charge last and where do you charge it? How much is it?
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