Well it doesn't really given Max Biamou has made 10 appearances in 3.5 years since leaving.The players of a couple of years ago put in effort, despite being less technically gifted.
Effort beats ability every time
Ah yes, thought it was time for another “players bad” post.
Well it doesn't really given Max Biamou has made 10 appearances in 3.5 years since leaving.
This team is performing below the levels of the Biamou / Walker / Shipley team
how can that be
Are they poor players
Do they not care
I am hoping that Frank can sort them out, and irrespective of taking a loss on them, if they dont want to play - ship them out
agree as individuals, and that tells you how badly the current squad is performing (albeit Gus and Hyam are the exceptions)None of those players would get in this squad, nowhere near it.
I agree. But there was a serious lack of effort closing the lad down 30 yards from goal…giving him all the time in world to shoot. Aren’t protecting the goal well enough which comes down to all those things you’ve mentioned.I don't think there is a lack of effort. There is a lack of confidence, some poor decisions, some poor organisation.
Watch it back. Both Binks and Rudoni start closing him down as soon as he receives the ball. Effort is not the problem, the issue was our midfield getting bypassed completely by two simple passes.I agree. But there was a serious lack of effort closing the lad down 30 yards from goal…giving him all the time in world to shoot. Aren’t protecting the goal well enough which comes down to all those things you’ve mentioned.
Rudoni didn't see the scorer behind him and rushed towards the ball carrier rather than blocking his pass or closely marking the scorer.Watch it back. Both Binks and Rudoni start closing him down as soon as he receives the ball. Effort is not the problem, the issue was our midfield getting bypassed completely by two simple passes.
It’s not even some glaring chance we’ve given up, 9/10 times he doesn’t score that.
Great goal but you can’t be giving him that space. Yes it’s organisation but sometimes it’s the effort to be organised as well. Same as when the ball comes in the box, don’t wait for it…make the effort to meet it and not let a man run free. Protect the goal ffs.Watch it back. Both Binks and Rudoni start closing him down as soon as he receives the ball. Effort is not the problem, the issue was our midfield getting bypassed completely by two simple passes.
It’s not even some glaring chance we’ve given up, 9/10 times he doesn’t score that.
This team is performing below the levels of the Biamou / Walker / Shipley team
how can that be
Are they poor players
Do they not care
I am hoping that Frank can sort them out, and irrespective of taking a loss on them, if they dont want to play - ship them out
I don't think they are. They are performing at Championship levels for starters.This team is performing below the levels of the Biamou / Walker / Shipley team
how can that be
Are they poor players
Do they not care
I am hoping that Frank can sort them out, and irrespective of taking a loss on them, if they dont want to play - ship them out
Unless you have Collins in goal when he'd score10 out of 10 times.It’s not even some glaring chance we’ve given up, 9/10 times he doesn’t score that.
And biamou walker and Shipley didn’t play for us in the championship?? Confused !!I don't think they are. They are performing at Championship levels for starters.
If you are going to rant at least think it through.
We have to countenance the idea that Robins caused this because of the coaching structure. At the time, even McSheffrey outlined his concerns with replacing Viveash with someone like Delaney. This was something I dismissed at the time but with hindsight, it’s possible Robins exposed himself tactically and as a coach.Will preface this with Robins being an amazing manager.
But Robins was never a coach and left that to Adi and Dennis, he would support but wouldn’t lead it. Think there’s a lot to be said about how you train leading to how you play and don’t think from what I’ve seen the coaching has been good enough.
Thought the warm up on Saturday was light years ahead of what we’ve seen before and hope with more time levels will rise
Will preface this with Robins being an amazing manager.
But Robins was never a coach and left that to Adi and Dennis, he would support but wouldn’t lead it. Think there’s a lot to be said about how you train leading to how you play and don’t think from what I’ve seen the coaching has been good enough.
Thought the warm up on Saturday was light years ahead of what we’ve seen before and hope with more time levels will rise
This is my mindset as well.I am coming to terms with King’s decision and feel if overall our whole coaching staff improve then having Lampard as the face we will be better off. Especially if long term we can bring in more coaches, scouts etc that he knows if he gets a say on the decision to get rid of people like Austin, Williams etc.
A lot of the Chelsea kids that have all come through in recent years is down to Lampard so fingers crossed his ability to work with younger players shows. He might be able to get Torp & Rudoni to become better attacking midfielders.
I loved Robins and didn’t want him to get sacked but I’m trying to now look forward at the positives this fresh face can bring. Onwards and upwards
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I didn’t realise Joe Edwards worked under Tuchel and the best part is that he left to rejoin Lampard at Everton. Which means Tuchel certainly rated him as his number 2.This is my mindset as well.
Think there’s coaching is already at higher standard with the two who came in alongside Lampard ( Can’t get over we have an assistant who won the champions league in that role).
Assume that will only keep developing with time with a couple people hinting at new coaches. End of the day, I do think the squad is good enough but something behind the scenes wasn’t working, living in hope we see a better display at Millwall
Will preface this with Robins being an amazing manager.
But Robins was never a coach and left that to Adi and Dennis, he would support but wouldn’t lead it. Think there’s a lot to be said about how you train leading to how you play and don’t think from what I’ve seen the coaching has been good enough.
Thought the warm up on Saturday was light years ahead of what we’ve seen before and hope with more time levels will rise
exactly, players are on their 3rd manager,and new coaching staff, it’ll take time to settle down, the only thing that worried me was the effort in the 2nd half, maybe Lampard asking them to do different things, but like you say can’t blame the manager and coaches anymore, we’ve got top quality ones, hope to see a big difference in effort on Saturday.I didn’t realise Joe Edwards worked under Tuchel and the best part is that he left to rejoin Lampard at Everton. Which means Tuchel certainly rated him as his number 2.
The players will surely respond to such high level coaches.
Just the work required seemed to be higher intensity and related to the tactics. Recently when I’ve seen us warm up we plod along and do a pressing drill, we seemingly did a lot more to suit the tactic this week.Missed the warm up. What was so good about it?
Rhys Carr’s tenure would very much be a continuation of Robins’ ideas and tactics. Lampard and his team to make some changes and that’ll take a few weeks. Given the ‘diffculty’ of fixtures, we need to picking up points right away and by Jan the team should be well integrated into FL’s tactics and methods.exactly, players are on their 3rd manager,and new coaching staff, it’ll take time to settle down, the only thing that worried me was the effort in the 2nd half, maybe Lampard asking them to do different things, but like you say can’t blame the manager and coaches anymore, we’ve got top quality ones, hope to see a big difference in effort on Saturday.
To be fair I don’t think the squad depth is as bad as we think at times.I don’t think it’s a question of effort or ability. There are two problems. The squad balance is wrong. We’ve got good options in the forward positions but only 1 right sided option. We’ve got two good players in Rudoni and Torp who don’t fit the system. We have 1 right back who has to play every game. And we have three very average centre halves with little experience or leadership. The other problem is confidence which is caused by the first issue.
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