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pastythegreat · Jan 30, 2021

So not so much a concern about how many we've given away (although it is still a massive concern, we've been dreadful for it all season with no signs AT ALL that it will stop any time soon) but more about the goalkeepers.
In a season and a half since our goalkeeping overhaul and bringing in a completely fresh GK set up, we haven't saved a single penalty. Between Wilson and Marosi we haven't saved a single penalty, not even in cup shoot outs. I get that its more luck with penalty saves and the striker will always be favourite to score, but not a single save, given how many we continue to give away is a huge cause for concern.

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kg82 · Jan 30, 2021

pastythegreat said:
So not so much a concern about how many we've given away (although it is still a massive concern, we've been dreadful for it all season with no signs AT ALL that it will stop any time soon) but more about the goalkeepers.
In a season and a half since our goalkeeping overhaul amd bringing in a completely fresh GK set up, we haven't saved a single penalty. Between Wilson and Marosi we haven't saved a single penalty, not even in cup shoot outs. I get that its more luck with penalty saves amd the striker will always be favourite to score, but not a single save, given how many we continue to give away is a huge cause for concern.

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If the penalties are too good what can you do?! No chance Wilson’s saving that today. Best way to stop penalties going in... stop giving them away!

Wyken Sky Blue · Jan 30, 2021

We're got to be top of the list for most pens given away this season in the league

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Kilclines curly mullet · Jan 30, 2021

I made this point a couple of months ago and got dogs abuse

Adge · Jan 30, 2021

What is a penalty? It’s a free shot at goal from 12 yards so obviously the odds are always stacked against the keeper.
I’d be interested to see the percentage of penalties that are scored-must be 95% surely?

superskyblue · Jan 30, 2021

I'm getting so fucking fed up of conceding them. It's ridiculous now.

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2021

Adge said:
What is a penalty? It’s a free shot at goal from 12 yards so obviously the odds are always stacked against the keeper.
I’d be interested to see the percentage of penalties that are scored-must be 95% surely?

75% apparently.

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2021

This says we’re joint 4th: Championship - Penalties conceded

mrtrench · Jan 30, 2021

So many of them naïve and foolhardy, including today's. I don't blame the keepers - a penalty is only saved if the taker fucks up. I blame the defenders giving them away.

And yet, even if some of them have been grifted by the opposition, we don't seem to have learned anything in the opposite box either: drawing the clumsy tackle or going down in the box when fouled. From a moral perspective I appreciate and applaud our honesty - but it's a part of the modern game it seems and we are green as grass.

kg82 · Jan 30, 2021

mrtrench said:
So many of them naïve and foolhardy, including today's. I don't blame the keepers - a penalty is only saved if the taker fucks up. I blame the defenders giving them away.

And yet, even if some of them have been grifted by the opposition, we don't seem to have learned anything in the opposite box either: drawing the clumsy tackle or going down in the box when fouled. From a moral perspective I appreciate and applaud our honesty - but it's a part of the modern game it seems and we are green as grass.

Can agree with that. There was one today where I was screaming at Biamou to go down.

speedie87 · Jan 30, 2021

Saved a pen in cup this season against mk dons

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jan 30, 2021

Didn’t we save one agaisnt MK Dons?

Johhny Blue · Jan 30, 2021

Adge said:
What is a penalty? It’s a free shot at goal from 12 yards so obviously the odds are always stacked against the keeper.
I’d be interested to see the percentage of penalties that are scored-must be 95% surely?

Probably 96 if it wasn’t for Gary Breen

Skybluefaz · Jan 30, 2021

Naivety and lower quality decision making sprinkled with a bit of bad luck = our penalties conceded this season.

Magwitch · Jan 30, 2021

Don’t even know who our penalty taker is with Godden out.

play_in_skyblue_stripes · Jan 30, 2021

Seems a certainty any penalty we concede will be a goal. Over time there was an outside chance for a save one and great celebration when it happened. However with us this year, a save, or total miss (next time please), seems a very remote possibility worryingly.
No factual evidence though for this but get impression penalty taking skills have improved in English game.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 30, 2021

Magwitch said:
Don’t even know who our penalty taker is with Godden out.

Would back Gus to be fair

Skybluefaz · Jan 30, 2021

Magwitch said:
Don’t even know who our penalty taker is with Godden out.

Hamer has to be with the way he strikes a ball.

Frank Sidebottom · Jan 30, 2021

Must be a lot easier to take penalties with no crowd though. No fans there to give the taker dogs abuse, Far less pressure.

capel & collindridge · Jan 30, 2021

Wasn't there once a season we got penalties in consecutive games. And scored them both.

No. on reflection, I don't think so. Must have been a dream.

skyblues83 · Jan 30, 2021

Conceded 11 in all competitions

Rose, McFadzean, Wilson x2
Drysdale, O'Hare, Sheaf, Hyam, McCallum x1

stupot07 · Jan 30, 2021

skyblues83 said:
Conceded 11 in all competitions

Rose, McFadzean, Wilson x2
Drysdale, O'Hare, Sheaf, Hyam, McCallum x1

11 pens in 29 games (38%) must be some kind of record?

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play_in_skyblue_stripes · Jan 30, 2021

Timperley said:
Must be a lot easier to take penalties with no crowd though. No fans there to give the taker dogs abuse, Far less pressure.

good point.

Adge · Jan 30, 2021

shmmeee said:
75% apparently.

As low as that? Wow!

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2021

Adge said:
As low as that? Wow!

Soccer: Penalty Kick Percentage across Leagues

Not surprisingly, penalty kick percentage varies very little across leagues: Don't be fooled – Spanish players are no more likely to miss a PK. It's just a small sample size issue. Here'

www.arcticicehockey.com

clint van damme · Jan 30, 2021

pastythegreat said:
So not so much a concern about how many we've given away (although it is still a massive concern, we've been dreadful for it all season with no signs AT ALL that it will stop any time soon) but more about the goalkeepers.
In a season and a half since our goalkeeping overhaul and bringing in a completely fresh GK set up, we haven't saved a single penalty. Between Wilson and Marosi we haven't saved a single penalty, not even in cup shoot outs. I get that its more luck with penalty saves and the striker will always be favourite to score, but not a single save, given how many we continue to give away is a huge cause for concern.

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I think Robins should get the keepers in for extra penalty training and then encourage the outfield players to give more penalties away so we can really try and remedy the root of the problem.

Mild-Mannered Janitor · Jan 30, 2021

Promotions and being the newcomers in the league always makes it difficult with the pace of the game will always put us higher in the errors/penalties given away, would be nice for less but probably a reality this season

higgs · Jan 30, 2021

We could do with winning a few ourselves

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Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 30, 2021

Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
Promotions and being the newcomers in the league always makes it difficult with the pace of the game will always put us higher in the errors/penalties given away, would be nice for less but probably a reality this season

True but today you just saw it happening for an eternity before he dived in, give the keeper more of a chance and keep yourself on the pitch in the process

Legia Sky Blue · Jan 31, 2021

The thing that's been most frustrating is that hardly any of the penalties conceded have been made preventing almost certain goals. With all the ones I can remember the opposition still had a lot to do to score and were certainly in more difficult positions to do so than from the resultant penalty kick.

SBAndy · Jan 31, 2021

Have to remember that the laws have been adjusted to make it harder for keepers to save penalties. It’s noticeable.

thekidfromstrettoncamp · Jan 31, 2021

Stats. in Premier since inception are slightly higher 83% although 4% have missed the target which I think is a bad stat. I think 13% saved is a good one.

stupot07 · Jan 31, 2021

shmmeee said:
Soccer: Penalty Kick Percentage across Leagues

Not surprisingly, penalty kick percentage varies very little across leagues: Don't be fooled – Spanish players are no more likely to miss a PK. It's just a small sample size issue. Here'

www.arcticicehockey.com

No knocking it but that analysis is from 2010, it would be interesting to see what the % is now as the laws have been changed and are enforced to make it harder for the keeper, with them having to stay on the line now.

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Frank Sidebottom · Jan 31, 2021

Championship penalty scored and missed this season.

Championship - Penalty statistics: Missed 24/25

This Championship-statistic provides an overview of scored and missed penalties during the 24/25 season.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

66 scored and 13 missed I think.
Which I think is about 16/17% of penalties missed.... So statistically speaking the next one conceded should be missed.

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