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Shannerz

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  • Sunday at 2:27 PM
  • #36
SBT said:
Especially when the semi-finals in question were games that you made a huge song and dance about beforehand about how you were going to get totally battered
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And the club was one of the worst run in football, the manager is a joke and there aren't any depths the club has plummeted to.

Apparently football doesn't drop any lower than upper mid-table in the third tier.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Sunday at 5:14 PM
  • #37
Ccfcisparks said:
I think its a tactic easier to win cup competitions, or knockout formats, I think in the League more often than not to be succesful you need more of the ball.
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Parking the bus is the only way Sunderland are going to get any results next season.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sunday at 8:54 PM
  • #38
Rob Roy said:
Absolutely staggering that a message board with hundreds of members and not one of you has mentioned Catenaccio football - which is as old as the hills and finds its roots way back in the 1930's.

Catenaccio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defensive football with counter attacking intent was made famous by Helenio Herrera in the 1960's and using this tactic he won 2 x European cups and 3 x Italian league titles with Internazionale of Milan.

Le Bris and SUNDERLAND AFC essentially played a variation of catenaccio football against you - and for some reason ceding possession and territory was judged by you lot as "Coventry City being the better side over both games" - which tells me how little you understand the basics of the game of football.

It was as though this was some mysterious and tabooed tactic - and yet none of you, including your manager, understood what was going on.

In 210 minutes of football you scored just 2 goals and your famous heading exploits were all but nullified, to the extent that it was little old Sunderland who settled it with a header.

We gave you the ball, invited you to break us down, you basically failed miserably and were quite justly dumped out of the play offs. Mayenda and Wilson simply waited, in the first leg, for your mistake riddled defence to make even more mistakes and scored with a "thank you very much".

In the second leg you won the box to box play - which doesn't matter because there is no frigging goal in that area - yet in the area that mattered, the penalty box, you huffed and you puffed and we essentially won the box play, which is where it matters.

This is no revelation and the tactic is as old as the hills, but of course in football what goes around comes around and perhaps managers like Le Bris (continental europeans) are students of the game and as such are adaptable to the game their team is involved in.

Maybe defensive play - deliberate defensive displays with counter attacking intent is making a comeback (did it ever go away) and for "catenaccio" we now have given it a modern name.

Today it was a different tactic - we were poor in the first half but excellent in the second half and as a result Sheffield United lost control of the game and totally mismanaged it. We had far more possession than we had against your mob and ultimately won, again through mistakes - but then again aren't all goals borne out of footballing mistakes (if no one made a mistake every game would end up 0 v 0).

so we are up and we will now see if we can stay up. Difficult but not impossible and whatever happens we are now tens of millions of pounds richer; thanks in part to Catenaccio football and Le Bris modern interpretation of it.

thank you all, including your manager, for completely mis reading our game against you and the tactics we played. Please do it again. absolutely clueless. You were done like a kipper.
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you didn't play Catenaccio.

Herrera's had people like Facchetti who was a lb but scored 75 goals for them so while they were defensive the did attack more.

you parked the bus and won, go enjoy this
 

JAM See

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  • Monday at 4:11 PM
  • #39
Get it wide, sling the ball in, hard and low or high and central.

Big man, little man up top (think Keegan/Toshack or Wallace/Ferguson).

It'll come back into fashion.

Fuck parking the bus. Let's score more than them!
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Monday at 4:16 PM
  • #40
JAM See said:
Get it wide, sling the ball in, hard and low or high and central.

Big man, little man up top (think Keegan/Toshack or Wallace/Ferguson).

It'll come back into fashion.
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So we need a Wallace/Ferguson, are there any we could sign.
 

SkyblueTexan

Well-Known Member
  • Monday at 5:08 PM
  • #41
Rob Roy said:
Absolutely staggering that a message board with hundreds of members and not one of you has mentioned Catenaccio football - which is as old as the hills and finds its roots way back in the 1930's.

Catenaccio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defensive football with counter attacking intent was made famous by Helenio Herrera in the 1960's and using this tactic he won 2 x European cups and 3 x Italian league titles with Internazionale of Milan.

Le Bris and SUNDERLAND AFC essentially played a variation of catenaccio football against you - and for some reason ceding possession and territory was judged by you lot as "Coventry City being the better side over both games" - which tells me how little you understand the basics of the game of football.

It was as though this was some mysterious and tabooed tactic - and yet none of you, including your manager, understood what was going on.

In 210 minutes of football you scored just 2 goals and your famous heading exploits were all but nullified, to the extent that it was little old Sunderland who settled it with a header.

We gave you the ball, invited you to break us down, you basically failed miserably and were quite justly dumped out of the play offs. Mayenda and Wilson simply waited, in the first leg, for your mistake riddled defence to make even more mistakes and scored with a "thank you very much".

In the second leg you won the box to box play - which doesn't matter because there is no frigging goal in that area - yet in the area that mattered, the penalty box, you huffed and you puffed and we essentially won the box play, which is where it matters.

This is no revelation and the tactic is as old as the hills, but of course in football what goes around comes around and perhaps managers like Le Bris (continental europeans) are students of the game and as such are adaptable to the game their team is involved in.

Maybe defensive play - deliberate defensive displays with counter attacking intent is making a comeback (did it ever go away) and for "catenaccio" we now have given it a modern name.

Today it was a different tactic - we were poor in the first half but excellent in the second half and as a result Sheffield United lost control of the game and totally mismanaged it. We had far more possession than we had against your mob and ultimately won, again through mistakes - but then again aren't all goals borne out of footballing mistakes (if no one made a mistake every game would end up 0 v 0).

so we are up and we will now see if we can stay up. Difficult but not impossible and whatever happens we are now tens of millions of pounds richer; thanks in part to Catenaccio football and Le Bris modern interpretation of it.

thank you all, including your manager, for completely mis reading our game against you and the tactics we played. Please do it again. absolutely clueless. You were done like a kipper.
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Don’t understand why you feel a need to come back here after winning promotion to justify what your team did. Very strange behaviour. Write to Lampard and the EFL pundits if you want to as they certainly felt we were the better team over both legs against Sunderland. If not for Wright’s poor showing (which essentially felt like we played with 10 men over both legs) and MVE’s costly error it could’ve been a different outcome. Plus we sorely missed our first choice keeper and Torp who both played in our 3-0 victory over you. But I’m not not going to complain or dredge this up any more.

Good luck playing the low block or whatever you want to call it for 38 games next season.
 
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