Parking the bus...... (2 Viewers)

clint van damme said:

Or the low block as its now called.

Are we entering an era of more and more teams deploying this tactic?

Big games won by teams with low posseion stats in the last few weeks:

Sunderland - play off semi 1st leg.
Palace - FA cup final
Spurs - Euopa league
Aberdeen - Scottish Cup final

This follows on from some of the relegation threatened teams having success with it in the Championship in the latter part of the season, or maybe this is the reason I'm noticing it and it's no more prevalent than usual?

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clint van damme said:

We didn't have much choice against Luton to be fair.

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clint van damme said:

Or the low block as its now called.

Are we entering an era of more and more teams deploying this tactic?

Big games won by teams with low posseion stats in the last few weeks:

Sunderland - play off semi 1st leg.
Palace - FA cup final
Spurs - Euopa league
Aberdeen - Scottish Cup final

This follows on from some of the relegation threatened teams having success with it in the Championship in the latter part of the season, or maybe this is the reason I'm noticing it and it's no more prevalent than usual?

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clint van damme said:

Or the low block as its now called.

Are we entering an era of more and more teams deploying this tactic?

Big games won by teams with low posseion stats in the last few weeks:

Sunderland - play off semi 1st leg.
Palace - FA cup final
Spurs - Euopa league
Aberdeen - Scottish Cup final

This follows on from some of the relegation threatened teams having success with it in the Championship in the latter part of the season, or maybe this is the reason I'm noticing it and it's no more prevalent than usual?

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clint van damme said:

Or the low block as its now called.

Are we entering an era of more and more teams deploying this tactic?

Big games won by teams with low posseion stats in the last few weeks:

Sunderland - play off semi 1st leg.
Palace - FA cup final
Spurs - Euopa league
Aberdeen - Scottish Cup final

This follows on from some of the relegation threatened teams having success with it in the Championship in the latter part of the season, or maybe this is the reason I'm noticing it and it's no more prevalent than usual?

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stupot07 said:

You could argue that's how we played to an extent when we got to the play off final. The back 3 defended deep, we had the box in midfield, and played on the counter attack with Hamer and Gyokeres. We kept a ridiculous amount of cleansheets that season.

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shmmeee said:

Absolutely this and the joint loss of someone who can quickly pick and execute a forward pass and someone who can hold the ball up (let alone beat the entire defence and score) still hasn’t been even attempted to be replaced.

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Shannerz said:

We were never going to be able to replace those players, they had both significantly outgrown the level we're at.

We did the most sensible thing; invest in a squad that was under contract to us, not half a team of loanees.

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shmmeee said:

We didn’t replace the parts that made the team work as a counter attacking unit.

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Shannerz said:

There was a deliberate attempt to move away from that style of football. Part of the reason we set up like that in the first place was because the bottom fell out of Simon Moore's form, so there was need to protect the goal more.

We do miss Hamer's vision and ability to drive forward more than anything, I agree on this, but I don't think it's through lack of trying; it's going to be very hard to find a player in the transfer bracket we operate in who can replicate it.

Whether the decision to attempt a more possession based approach was wise is moot, of course.

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clint van damme said:

Or the low block as its now called.

Are we entering an era of more and more teams deploying this tactic?

Big games won by teams with low posseion stats in the last few weeks:

Sunderland - play off semi 1st leg.
Palace - FA cup final
Spurs - Euopa league
Aberdeen - Scottish Cup final

This follows on from some of the relegation threatened teams having success with it in the Championship in the latter part of the season, or maybe this is the reason I'm noticing it and it's no more prevalent than usual?

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David O'Day said:

nah, it's okay for one off games vs better teams but you need too much luck over season for it too work

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Rob Roy said:

Absolutely staggering that a message board with hundreds of members and not one of you has mentioned Catenaccio football - which is as old as the hills and finds its roots way back in the 1930's.

Catenaccio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defensive football with counter attacking intent was made famous by Helenio Herrera in the 1960's and using this tactic he won 2 x European cups and 3 x Italian league titles with Internazionale of Milan.

Le Bris and SUNDERLAND AFC essentially played a variation of catenaccio football against you - and for some reason ceding possession and territory was judged by you lot as "Coventry City being the better side over both games" - which tells me how little you understand the basics of the game of football.

It was as though this was some mysterious and tabooed tactic - and yet none of you, including your manager, understood what was going on.

In 210 minutes of football you scored just 2 goals and your famous heading exploits were all but nullified, to the extent that it was little old Sunderland who settled it with a header.

We gave you the ball, invited you to break us down, you basically failed miserably and were quite justly dumped out of the play offs. Mayenda and Wilson simply waited, in the first leg, for your mistake riddled defence to make even more mistakes and scored with a "thank you very much".

In the second leg you won the box to box play - which doesn't matter because there is no frigging goal in that area - yet in the area that mattered, the penalty box, you huffed and you puffed and we essentially won the box play, which is where it matters.

This is no revelation and the tactic is as old as the hills, but of course in football what goes around comes around and perhaps managers like Le Bris (continental europeans) are students of the game and as such are adaptable to the game their team is involved in.

Maybe defensive play - deliberate defensive displays with counter attacking intent is making a comeback and for "catenaccio" we now have given it a modern name.

Today it was a different tactic - we were poor in the first half but excellent in the second half and as a result Sheffield United lost control of the game and totally mismanaged it. We had far more possession than we had against your mob and ultimately won, again through mistakes - but then again aren't all goals borne out of footballing mistakes (if no one made a mistake every game would end up 0 v 0).

so we are up and we will now see if we can stay up. Difficult but not impossible and whatever happens we are now tens of millions of pounds richer; thanks in part to Catenaccio football and Le Bris modern interpretation of it.

thank you all, including your manager, for completely mis reading our game against you and the tactics we played. Please do it again. absolutely clueless.

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Rob Roy said:

Absolutely staggering that a message board with hundreds of members and not one of you has mentioned Catenaccio football - which is as old as the hills and finds its roots way back in the 1930's.

Catenaccio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defensive football with counter attacking intent was made famous by Helenio Herrera in the 1960's and using this tactic he won 2 x European cups and 3 x Italian league titles with Internazionale of Milan.

Le Bris and SUNDERLAND AFC essentially played a variation of catenaccio football against you - and for some reason ceding possession and territory was judged by you lot as "Coventry City being the better side over both games" - which tells me how little you understand the basics of the game of football.

It was as though this was some mysterious and tabooed tactic - and yet none of you, including your manager, understood what was going on.

In 210 minutes of football you scored just 2 goals and your famous heading exploits were all but nullified, to the extent that it was little old Sunderland who settled it with a header.

We gave you the ball, invited you to break us down, you basically failed miserably and were quite justly dumped out of the play offs. Mayenda and Wilson simply waited, in the first leg, for your mistake riddled defence to make even more mistakes and scored with a "thank you very much".

In the second leg you won the box to box play - which doesn't matter because there is no frigging goal in that area - yet in the area that mattered, the penalty box, you huffed and you puffed and we essentially won the box play, which is where it matters.

This is no revelation and the tactic is as old as the hills, but of course in football what goes around comes around and perhaps managers like Le Bris (continental europeans) are students of the game and as such are adaptable to the game their team is involved in.

Maybe defensive play - deliberate defensive displays with counter attacking intent is making a comeback (did it ever go away) and for "catenaccio" we now have given it a modern name.

Today it was a different tactic - we were poor in the first half but excellent in the second half and as a result Sheffield United lost control of the game and totally mismanaged it. We had far more possession than we had against your mob and ultimately won, again through mistakes - but then again aren't all goals borne out of footballing mistakes (if no one made a mistake every game would end up 0 v 0).

so we are up and we will now see if we can stay up. Difficult but not impossible and whatever happens we are now tens of millions of pounds richer; thanks in part to Catenaccio football and Le Bris modern interpretation of it.

thank you all, including your manager, for completely mis reading our game against you and the tactics we played. Please do it again. absolutely clueless. You were done like a kipper.

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Rob Roy said:

Absolutely staggering that a message board with hundreds of members and not one of you has mentioned Catenaccio football - which is as old as the hills and finds its roots way back in the 1930's.

Catenaccio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defensive football with counter attacking intent was made famous by Helenio Herrera in the 1960's and using this tactic he won 2 x European cups and 3 x Italian league titles with Internazionale of Milan.

Le Bris and SUNDERLAND AFC essentially played a variation of catenaccio football against you - and for some reason ceding possession and territory was judged by you lot as "Coventry City being the better side over both games" - which tells me how little you understand the basics of the game of football.

It was as though this was some mysterious and tabooed tactic - and yet none of you, including your manager, understood what was going on.

In 210 minutes of football you scored just 2 goals and your famous heading exploits were all but nullified, to the extent that it was little old Sunderland who settled it with a header.

We gave you the ball, invited you to break us down, you basically failed miserably and were quite justly dumped out of the play offs. Mayenda and Wilson simply waited, in the first leg, for your mistake riddled defence to make even more mistakes and scored with a "thank you very much".

In the second leg you won the box to box play - which doesn't matter because there is no frigging goal in that area - yet in the area that mattered, the penalty box, you huffed and you puffed and we essentially won the box play, which is where it matters.

This is no revelation and the tactic is as old as the hills, but of course in football what goes around comes around and perhaps managers like Le Bris (continental europeans) are students of the game and as such are adaptable to the game their team is involved in.

Maybe defensive play - deliberate defensive displays with counter attacking intent is making a comeback (did it ever go away) and for "catenaccio" we now have given it a modern name.

Today it was a different tactic - we were poor in the first half but excellent in the second half and as a result Sheffield United lost control of the game and totally mismanaged it. We had far more possession than we had against your mob and ultimately won, again through mistakes - but then again aren't all goals borne out of footballing mistakes (if no one made a mistake every game would end up 0 v 0).

so we are up and we will now see if we can stay up. Difficult but not impossible and whatever happens we are now tens of millions of pounds richer; thanks in part to Catenaccio football and Le Bris modern interpretation of it.

thank you all, including your manager, for completely mis reading our game against you and the tactics we played. Please do it again. absolutely clueless. You were done like a kipper.

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Rob Roy said:

Absolutely staggering that a message board with hundreds of members and not one of you has mentioned Catenaccio football - which is as old as the hills and finds its roots way back in the 1930's.

Catenaccio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defensive football with counter attacking intent was made famous by Helenio Herrera in the 1960's and using this tactic he won 2 x European cups and 3 x Italian league titles with Internazionale of Milan.

Le Bris and SUNDERLAND AFC essentially played a variation of catenaccio football against you - and for some reason ceding possession and territory was judged by you lot as "Coventry City being the better side over both games" - which tells me how little you understand the basics of the game of football.

It was as though this was some mysterious and tabooed tactic - and yet none of you, including your manager, understood what was going on.

In 210 minutes of football you scored just 2 goals and your famous heading exploits were all but nullified, to the extent that it was little old Sunderland who settled it with a header.

We gave you the ball, invited you to break us down, you basically failed miserably and were quite justly dumped out of the play offs. Mayenda and Wilson simply waited, in the first leg, for your mistake riddled defence to make even more mistakes and scored with a "thank you very much".

In the second leg you won the box to box play - which doesn't matter because there is no frigging goal in that area - yet in the area that mattered, the penalty box, you huffed and you puffed and we essentially won the box play, which is where it matters.

This is no revelation and the tactic is as old as the hills, but of course in football what goes around comes around and perhaps managers like Le Bris (continental europeans) are students of the game and as such are adaptable to the game their team is involved in.

Maybe defensive play - deliberate defensive displays with counter attacking intent is making a comeback (did it ever go away) and for "catenaccio" we now have given it a modern name.

Today it was a different tactic - we were poor in the first half but excellent in the second half and as a result Sheffield United lost control of the game and totally mismanaged it. We had far more possession than we had against your mob and ultimately won, again through mistakes - but then again aren't all goals borne out of footballing mistakes (if no one made a mistake every game would end up 0 v 0).

so we are up and we will now see if we can stay up. Difficult but not impossible and whatever happens we are now tens of millions of pounds richer; thanks in part to Catenaccio football and Le Bris modern interpretation of it.

thank you all, including your manager, for completely mis reading our game against you and the tactics we played. Please do it again. absolutely clueless. You were done like a kipper.

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Rob Roy said:

Absolutely staggering that a message board with hundreds of members and not one of you has mentioned Catenaccio football - which is as old as the hills and finds its roots way back in the 1930's.

Catenaccio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defensive football with counter attacking intent was made famous by Helenio Herrera in the 1960's and using this tactic he won 2 x European cups and 3 x Italian league titles with Internazionale of Milan.

Le Bris and SUNDERLAND AFC essentially played a variation of catenaccio football against you - and for some reason ceding possession and territory was judged by you lot as "Coventry City being the better side over both games" - which tells me how little you understand the basics of the game of football.

It was as though this was some mysterious and tabooed tactic - and yet none of you, including your manager, understood what was going on.

In 210 minutes of football you scored just 2 goals and your famous heading exploits were all but nullified, to the extent that it was little old Sunderland who settled it with a header.

We gave you the ball, invited you to break us down, you basically failed miserably and were quite justly dumped out of the play offs. Mayenda and Wilson simply waited, in the first leg, for your mistake riddled defence to make even more mistakes and scored with a "thank you very much".

In the second leg you won the box to box play - which doesn't matter because there is no frigging goal in that area - yet in the area that mattered, the penalty box, you huffed and you puffed and we essentially won the box play, which is where it matters.

This is no revelation and the tactic is as old as the hills, but of course in football what goes around comes around and perhaps managers like Le Bris (continental europeans) are students of the game and as such are adaptable to the game their team is involved in.

Maybe defensive play - deliberate defensive displays with counter attacking intent is making a comeback (did it ever go away) and for "catenaccio" we now have given it a modern name.

Today it was a different tactic - we were poor in the first half but excellent in the second half and as a result Sheffield United lost control of the game and totally mismanaged it. We had far more possession than we had against your mob and ultimately won, again through mistakes - but then again aren't all goals borne out of footballing mistakes (if no one made a mistake every game would end up 0 v 0).

so we are up and we will now see if we can stay up. Difficult but not impossible and whatever happens we are now tens of millions of pounds richer; thanks in part to Catenaccio football and Le Bris modern interpretation of it.

thank you all, including your manager, for completely mis reading our game against you and the tactics we played. Please do it again. absolutely clueless. You were done like a kipper.

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Cally Fedora said:

The low block is a tactic that wins the odd game but kills football. It’s a tactic employed in general by very poor teams such as Sunderland. I’d hate to have to watch it every week. It’s boredom personified.

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Cally Fedora said:

The low block is a tactic that wins the odd game but kills football. It’s a tactic employed in general by very poor teams such as Sunderland. I’d hate to have to watch it every week. It’s boredom personified.

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Rob Roy said:

Absolutely staggering that a message board with hundreds of members and not one of you has mentioned Catenaccio football - which is as old as the hills and finds its roots way back in the 1930's.

Catenaccio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defensive football with counter attacking intent was made famous by Helenio Herrera in the 1960's and using this tactic he won 2 x European cups and 3 x Italian league titles with Internazionale of Milan.

Le Bris and SUNDERLAND AFC essentially played a variation of catenaccio football against you - and for some reason ceding possession and territory was judged by you lot as "Coventry City being the better side over both games" - which tells me how little you understand the basics of the game of football.

It was as though this was some mysterious and tabooed tactic - and yet none of you, including your manager, understood what was going on.

In 210 minutes of football you scored just 2 goals and your famous heading exploits were all but nullified, to the extent that it was little old Sunderland who settled it with a header.

We gave you the ball, invited you to break us down, you basically failed miserably and were quite justly dumped out of the play offs. Mayenda and Wilson simply waited, in the first leg, for your mistake riddled defence to make even more mistakes and scored with a "thank you very much".

In the second leg you won the box to box play - which doesn't matter because there is no frigging goal in that area - yet in the area that mattered, the penalty box, you huffed and you puffed and we essentially won the box play, which is where it matters.

This is no revelation and the tactic is as old as the hills, but of course in football what goes around comes around and perhaps managers like Le Bris (continental europeans) are students of the game and as such are adaptable to the game their team is involved in.

Maybe defensive play - deliberate defensive displays with counter attacking intent is making a comeback (did it ever go away) and for "catenaccio" we now have given it a modern name.

Today it was a different tactic - we were poor in the first half but excellent in the second half and as a result Sheffield United lost control of the game and totally mismanaged it. We had far more possession than we had against your mob and ultimately won, again through mistakes - but then again aren't all goals borne out of footballing mistakes (if no one made a mistake every game would end up 0 v 0).

so we are up and we will now see if we can stay up. Difficult but not impossible and whatever happens we are now tens of millions of pounds richer; thanks in part to Catenaccio football and Le Bris modern interpretation of it.

thank you all, including your manager, for completely mis reading our game against you and the tactics we played. Please do it again. absolutely clueless. You were done like a kipper.

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Loughborough Sky Blue said:

Leicester managed it over a season when they won the premier league. They got absolutely hammered in possession stats all season but their defence held firm and they released for the likes of Mahrez and Vardy to counter with pace.

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