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  • Start date Apr 5, 2025
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jto123

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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I think my hatred for the parachute clubs (or yo-yo clubs) is overtaking any rivalry hatred (Leicester an obvious exception). I know it is the system at fault, but they represent that broken system that really ruined the unpredictability of the championship which made it the best league in the world for a moment.

Add to this their celebration at promotion every other year, with a huge advantage, as if it counts as a significant achievement only to be back the year after, it’s hard to respect any of them. I also feel that unlike the ‘big six’ they should know better about the football league pyramid, yet instead seem happy to revel in the curricular up and down ruining the jeopardy for both the premier league and the championship.

Finally apart from generally not liking them, I really will for them to lose as it creates hope to break the cycle of the same teams going up and down. I’m sure the argument will come that it is sour grapes and we’d be happy to do it ourselves, but I just can’t have anything but disdain for this mini league between the bottom of the premier league and the top of the championship. Rant over.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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We need to become one, simple as that.
 
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jto123

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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clint van damme said:
We need to become one, simple as that.
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Obvious statement, but clubs now aiming to become parachute clubs is a sign of sport that has got it wrong.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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jto123 said:
Obvious statement, but clubs now aiming to become parachute clubs is a sign of sport that has got it wrong.
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Don't disagree, in fact, totally agree, but while that is the case, we need to become one.
It's not my idea of what football should be but there you go.
 
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Hobo

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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jto123 said:
I think my hatred for the parachute clubs (or yo-yo clubs) is overtaking any rivalry hatred (Leicester an obvious exception). I know it is the system at fault, but they represent that broken system that really ruined the unpredictability of the championship which made it the best league in the world for a moment.

Add to this their celebration at promotion every other year, with a huge advantage, as if it counts as a significant achievement only to be back the year after, it’s hard to respect any of them. I also feel that unlike the ‘big six’ they should know better about the football league pyramid, yet instead seem happy to revel in the curricular up and down ruining the jeopardy for both the premier league and the championship.

Finally apart from generally not liking them, I really will for them to lose as it creates hope to break the cycle of the same teams going up and down. I’m sure the argument will come that it is sour grapes and we’d be happy to do it ourselves, but I just can’t have anything but disdain for this mini league between the bottom of the premier league and the top of the championship. Rant over.
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Yes Luton, Wigan, Reading, Bolton, Watford, Norwich and WBA have stormed it Stoke anyone?
 

Hobo

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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jto123 said:
Obvious statement, but clubs now aiming to become parachute clubs is a sign of sport that has got it wrong.
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That's a bit like saying teams with the ambition to join the Premier League have got it wrong? Without Parachute payments the gulf gets wider between Championship and Premier League.
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Hobo said:
Yes Luton, Wigan, Reading, Bolton, Watford, Norwich and WBA have stormed it Stoke anyone?
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A lot of those sides are the exception rather than the rule
 
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ceetee

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Hobo said:
Yes Luton, Wigan, Reading, Bolton, Watford, Norwich and WBA have stormed it Stoke anyone?
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You can add Blackburn to that list although a Blackburn supporter I know told me the owner took most of it to repay debts
 
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jto123

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Hobo said:
Yes Luton, Wigan, Reading, Bolton, Watford, Norwich and WBA have stormed it Stoke anyone?
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With the exception of Luton, you are talking quite far back. It’s been quite noticeable that it’s become a harder cycle to break in recent years.
 
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jto123

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Hobo said:
That's a bit like saying teams with the ambition to join the Premier League have got it wrong? Without Parachute payments the gulf gets wider between Championship and Premier League.
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No it’s not. It’s saying the ambition to become a yo-yo club is a a bad one. People almost accept it as a given to go down because of the financial inequity. Without parachute payments things would be worst for the premier league, but not the championship to which I was mainly concerned about.
 

Hobo

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Northeast sky blue said:
A lot of those sides are the exception rather than the rule
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That's a lot of exceptions
 
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Hobo

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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jto123 said:
No it’s not. It’s saying the ambition to become a yo-yo club is a a bad one. People almost accept it as a given to go down because of the financial inequity. Without parachute payments things would be worst for the premier league, but not the championship to which I was mainly concerned about.
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Brentford did ok building over several seasons
 

Hobo

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Leeds!
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Hobo said:
That's a lot of exceptions
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It's a few, but over how many seasons, I'm only guessing but the majority of relegated premier teams challenge for promotion
 
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jto123

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Hobo said:
Brentford did ok building over several seasons
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Now we really are talking exceptions.
 

Alkhen

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #16
Needs looking at, the advantage is just way too big currently.

Sods law says if we finally got up that would be the year they scrap parachute payments. Missed out by a few years when we went down before.
 
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Hobo

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Northeast sky blue said:
It's a few, but over how many seasons, I'm only guessing but the majority of relegated premier teams challenge for promotion
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You would expect relegated teams to challenge for promotion regardless of parachute payments

But I think you will find only once or maybe twice have all three relegated sides have gone straight back up.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #18
clint van damme said:
We need to become one, simple as that.
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You watch us become one only for the leagues to scrap it
 
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JAM See

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #19
clint van damme said:
We need to become one, simple as that.
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I read this post too quickly.
Now I've got a Spice Girls earworm.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Sky Blue Goblin said:
You watch us become one only for the leagues to scrap it
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Chatting in the pub post game and some one said that would happen.
 

Diogenes

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #21
Doesn't help that this "league within a league" are made up with absolute shithole clubs
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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Headcorn, Kent - Scene of my one and only jump. 2000 feet static line. Sept 1986.
 
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JAM See

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #23
oscillatewildly said:
Headcorn, Kent - Scene of my one and only jump. 2000 feet static line. Sept 1986.
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What a buzz though!
Same here, only did the one.
We walked with the angels briefly.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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clint van damme said:
Chatting in the pub post game and some one said that would happen.
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I mean we just about lost out on them once why not again would be typical cov
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #25
Burnley annoy me the most out of the parachute clubs, so arrogant top to bottom and constantly giving it the Billy Big Bollocks when in reality they will always be Sean Dyche FC
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 5, 2025
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JAM See said:
What a buzz though!
Same here, only did the one.
We walked with the angels briefly.
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We may have walked with them but I'm convinced most landed better than me.
 
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dadgad

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #27
The PL was over weeks ago! It’s a bore made worse by the parachutists yo-yoing. Needs a rule change and quick.
Give relegated clubs the money but make them start on -6 points
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #28
dadgad said:
The PL was over weeks ago! It’s a bore made worse by the parachutists yo-yoing. Needs a rule change and quick.
Give relegated clubs the money but make them start on -6 points
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It needs to be that a max of two of the promoted teams can come back down and the relegated teams only one can go back up
 
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Paxman II

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  • Apr 6, 2025
  • #29
It's true that parachute teams have an advantage on paper at least. However how do you explain the achievement of Ipswich then? From league 1 they they went straight up through the championship with much the same squad that won league 1.
More often or not parachute clubs do have the biggest advantage, but well run clubs with good scouts and the ability to find good players to make a diiference can make it up. I think we are very close to that, and if we don't go up via this years playoff then I would expect us to challenge next year regardless of Southampton, Ipswich or Leicester.
 
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