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Grendel

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #36
PVA said:
He has before and he will again.

You're mad if you think he signed Palmer to sit him on the bench.
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When o hare was fit how games did he and Palmer play together?
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #37
Grendel said:
He’s just creating a situation to suit his argument
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Hahahahah

Amazing lack of self awareness. As usual.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #38
Grendel said:
When o hare was fit how games did he and Palmer play together?
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They were both fully fit at the same time for about 2 games. Palmer started one and Allen started the other IIRC.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #39
PVA said:
You keep going on about how expensive Palmer was - why would we spend that much money on him to put him on the bench behind Allen? It makes zero sense.
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Well he was on the bench when o hare played wasn’t he?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #40
PVA said:
Hahahahah

Amazing lack of self awareness. As usual.
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oh dear
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #41
PVA said:
He has before and he will again.

You're mad if you think he signed Palmer to sit him on the bench.
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He signed Palmer to give him an opportunity to shed his reputation as an inconsistent, injury-prone luxury player. It hasn't happened.

I think Palmer had a legitimate shot at the start of the season to be considered the AM2 in the box formation, but he hasn't taken his chances and now Allen is clearly the guy that Robins trusts.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #42
PVA said:
They were both fully fit at the same time for about 2 games. Palmer started one and Allen started the other IIRC.
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so Palmer wasn’t in the bench when o hare played - oh was that another Palmer?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #43
Disappointing first season. Talented player but hasn't affected games to anywhere near the level O'Hare does though had got better as his fitness level improved.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #44
SBT said:
He signed Palmer to give him an opportunity to shed his reputation as an inconsistent, injury-prone luxury player. It hasn't happened.

I think Palmer had a legitimate shot at the start of the season to be considered the AM2 in the box formation, but he hasn't taken his chances and now Allen is clearly the guy that Robins trusts.
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Allen has played every game because he was bulletproof and was able to keep playing while O'Hare and Palmer were struggling for fitness.

I think he exceeded everyone's expectations this season, nobody expected him to get so many goals. Fair play to him.

But I'm absolutely adamant that if all three are fit the first choice pairing is O'Hare and Palmer. Allen would still get plenty of game time
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #45
Grendel said:
so Palmer wasn’t in the bench when o hare played - oh was that another Palmer?
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Please learn to read.
 
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Boosh

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #46
On what planet is Palmer ahead of Allen
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #47
PVA said:
Allen has played every game because he was bulletproof and was able to keep playing while O'Hare and Palmer were struggling for fitness.

I think he exceeded everyone's expectations this season, nobody expected him to get so many goals. Fair play to him.

But I'm absolutely adamant that if all three are fit the first choice pairing is O'Hare and Palmer. Allen would still get plenty of game time
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I think you're underselling Allen's contribution this year, and how much Robins values him - he's not just a warm body, he's actually produced this season (and his resilience is an asset in itself, something Palmer has never had).

Palmer is a player that fans will always enjoy watching given his style of play, but his legacy with us so far is closer to Waghorn-levels than O'Hare.
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #48
Can't believe some of the comments on here. Palmer has been an excellent signing. Last season Pearson didn't play him, it wasn't because of injury. Therefore it did take him a while to gain full fitness here, but even when he still wasn't 100% you could see the class and creativity he brought to the team. I think everyone was excited about the pairing of Palmer & O'Hare behind Vik, but it never really happened, but it will next year. Palmer's work rate has been excellent, and he clearly feels wanted here. I can think of numerous games where he has been excellent this season. Compared to other high earners that have come in such as Waghorn and Kane he's been streets ahead.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #49
SBT said:
I think you're underselling Allen's contribution this year, and how much Robins values him - he's not just a warm body, he's actually produced this season (and his resilience is an asset in itself, something Palmer has never had).

Palmer is a player that fans will always enjoy watching given his style of play, but his legacy with us so far is closer to Waghorn-levels than O'Hare.
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They're three very different players and it's about finding the right combination.

O’Hare is a freak in that he has Allen's running combined with Palmer's chance creation so he's obviously clear first choice.

With him out I can understand how Allen becomes first choice.

But with all three fit O'Hare and Palmer would make for the best combination.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #50
Palmer is a frustrating type of player during games he looks absolute class, Direct and powerful, then in the same game he seems to switch off. I like him and I like his type of player but it needs to be more consistent. I’m not sure he has been 100% fitness wise though that’s a concern.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #51
Offhegoes said:
Can't believe some of the comments on here. Palmer has been an excellent signing. Last season Pearson didn't play him, it wasn't because of injury. Therefore it did take him a while to gain full fitness here, but even when he still wasn't 100% you could see the class and creativity he brought to the team. I think everyone was excited about the pairing of Palmer & O'Hare behind Vik, but it never really happened, but it will next year. Palmer's work rate has been excellent, and he clearly feels wanted here. I can think of numerous games where he has been excellent this season. Compared to other high earners that have come in such as Waghorn and Kane he's been streets ahead.
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When your biggest signing of the season doesn't even start half your games, I struggle to see how it can ever be considered "an excellent signing".
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #52
PVA said:
They're three very different players and it's about finding the right combination.

O’Hare is a freak in that he has Allen's running combined with Palmer's chance creation so he's obviously clear first choice.

With him out I can understand how Allen becomes first choice.

But with all three fit O'Hare and Palmer would make for the best combination.
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Yeah Allen offers you energy that you lose with O’Hare, but with that back Palmer is going to create more goals.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #53
SBT said:
When your biggest signing of the season doesn't even start half your games, I struggle to see how it can ever be considered "an excellent signing".
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He’s not been fit most of the season.
 

Boosh

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #54
shmmeee said:
He’s not been fit most of the season.
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And who could’ve predicted that, not like he’s struggled for fitness his whole career or anything
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #55
Boosh said:
And who could’ve predicted that, not like he’s struggled for fitness his whole career or anything
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Thats the market we were in.
 
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Boosh

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #56
shmmeee said:
Thats the market we were in.
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Well in that case he’s been a superb signing, top drawer. Player of the season for me
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #57
shmmeee said:
He’s not been fit most of the season.
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Nick

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #58
Hamstring tear? Get back on for 15 minutes
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #59
SBT said:
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We seem to be having two conversations. “Is Palmer good” vs “Is Palmer fit”
 

Boosh

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #60
Nick said:
Hamstring tear? Get back on for 15 minutes
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It was about 30 seconds and the sub was being prepared. He wasn’t forced on at gunpoint
 
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Boosh

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #61
shmmeee said:
We seem to be having two conversations. “Is Palmer good” vs “Is Palmer fit”
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No it’s the same question, was palmer a good signing? He’s a player who’s rarely fit, inconsistent and a liability defensively. But also a player who can be electric on his day. As support to O’hare the signing would’ve probably worked
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #62
shmmeee said:
We seem to be having two conversations. “Is Palmer good” vs “Is Palmer fit”
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When would you consider a perennially unfit player to be an excellent signing?
 
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mmttww

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #63
Grendel said:
He’s had about 4 good games all season - what a joke signing
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Bore off and write a Think Piece about Jamie Allen.
 
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mmttww

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #64
Boosh said:
On what planet is Palmer ahead of Allen
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Earth. Where's home for you, pal?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #65
Nick said:
Hamstring tear? Get back on for 15 minutes
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The player made the decision, the manager doesn't do it
 
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Boosh

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #66
mmttww said:
Earth. Where's home for you, pal?
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Is that where Jodi Jones had his big season

This years 'wildcard'

For me its Jodi, Drysdale and Burroughs to be one of the ones that come from nowhere and stake a claim. Who else do we reckon?
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #67
shmmeee said:
We seem to be having two conversations. “Is Palmer good” vs “Is Palmer fit”
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Fitness x quality = whether he's any good for us ultimately
 
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mmttww

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #68
Boosh said:
Is that where Jodi Jones had his big season
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Nah. Just where people live who don't reside on the internet scoring points and licking Grendel's bum.
 

Boosh

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #69
mmttww said:
Nah. Just where people live who don't reside on the internet scoring points and licking Grendel's bum.
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Oh right what is it you’re messaging on now if you don’t reside on the internet?

Seems as though you have history of talking rubbish about football. We’ll leave it there
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #70
Boosh said:
Oh right what is it you’re messaging on now if you don’t reside on the internet?

Seems as though you have history of talking rubbish about football. We’ll leave it there
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It's not complicated though is it? The thread you quoted was looking ahead. I was wrong. I'll get over it, I reckon.

Looking at things that happened, Palmer, like Allen, had to play too much with Godden and O'Hare out and got injured .

Palmer showed enough to make obvious he's a better footballer than Allen. Both have a use in the squad next season.
 
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