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Para1140

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #316
I was in the shop last Friday and someone was having Palmer on the back of the new away shirt. Whoops theres £15 you wish you'd never spent
 
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usskyblue

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #317
Para1140 said:
I was in the shop last Friday and someone was having Palmer on the back of the new away shirt. Whoops theres £15 you wish you'd never spent
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Doug cam;

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #318
Evo1883 said:
I'm not sure why people are making out he's useless , the better word would be ill disciplined.. can be great and can be shite , does the wrong thing plenty of times in matches but does some brilliant things .

He's hot and cold but unfortunately we need more
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Yep
 
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skybluelee

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #319
Para1140 said:
I was in the shop last Friday and someone was having Palmer on the back of the new away shirt. Whoops theres £15 you wish you'd never spent
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It’s what my daughter would be getting tomorrow so this is timely news

That said she's devastated that her favourite player is leaving.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #320
It would be a shame to lose someone with his ability because on his day Palmer can be brilliant, but his day doesn’t come around often enough which is why this deal makes sense.

Last year of his contract, get a bit of bob for him, replace him with someone else with some quality (Cantwell mentioned on another thread) and I don’t think it’ll be much of a loss.
 
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Otis

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #321
I really like Palmer too. Very talented player.

Right to move him on though, as he didn't perform to his highest standards often enough and lacked consistency in producing those great performances.

Very hot and cold. We need someone who can play at a consistent level, week in, week out.

Still a bit sad to see him going though. A real talent on his day.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #322
Really like Palmer. He’s a joy to watch.

His inconsistency on the pitch doesn’t really bother tbh…but his regular injuries and that he’s going to leave on a free make this an easy decision.
 
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junglej13

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #323

I will probably be in the minority here but this actually really annoyed me. Particularly when I read that Palmer did exactly the same when he was at Huddersfield (had been injured and then made a miraculous recovery just for the play off final). Contributes very little and then wants to try and turn up for a half an hour cameo in the hope of stealing the limelight.
 
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stupot07

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #324
junglej13 said:

I will probably be in the minority here but this actually really annoyed me. Particularly when I read that Palmer did exactly the same when he was at Huddersfield (had been injured and then made a miraculous recovery just for the play off final). Contributes very little and then wants to try and turn up for a half an hour cameo in the hope of stealing the limelight.
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Yeah, it was a ridiculous decision by Robins, he managed about 15 minutes and in those 15 minutes looked miles off the pace.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #325
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Indeed. Palmer is more the sort of player that shines when the team are in control and he takes the piss out of the opposition, But he's not the type of player that will get a team having a bad game out of the doldrums.
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Apart from Bristol away of course
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #326
I wish Palmer all the best at Hull. He’s an enigma and he’s a decent guy off the pitch. But we’re evolving as a club and squad now and we need different.
 
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stevenorfolkcov

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #327
Well we certainly didn’t miss him in the FA Cup Semi last season when he was stupid enough to get himself suspended.
Sums him up really - he won’t be missed by me.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #328
Palmer was great especially against weaker teams or lower league teams in cup with his forward thinking passes. But he spent a lot of time on ground and lacked pace and movement against strong midfielders. He got into lots of good positions but his shooting was average and his control was erratic. A very likeable and frustrating player in equal measures. The Sheff Weds fan racist abuse was disgusting and KP came out of that with great dignity.
 
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Hincha

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #329
The two sub appearances against Bristol demonstrated the value Kasey can bring to the squad as an impact substitute against tired legs.

Likewise the game against Oxford demonstrated why he isn’t good enough to be a starter.

Not worried about him going to Hull as if that’s going to make them significantly stronger.
 
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SwanLane

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #330
He looks good in flashes and is capable of the spectacular. But I can’t think of a flair player who tries so much stuff that doesn’t come off. Seems like a decent guy. But not many would have him in a starting 11. I don’t think that’s going to work for him or the club. He needs to be a regular starter although I’m not sure that’ll happen for him at Hull either.
 

Gibbo

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #331
I had him in the 1st team against Norwich in place of Torp (assuming no Sheaf).

Oh well
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #332
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don't think Palmer is/was fit enough. I honestly think he could do with losing 7lb. Hence always playing in fits & starts & no sustained effort. The time is right to sell.
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Jarvo87

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #333
Gibbo said:
I had him in the 1st team against Norwich in place of Torp (assuming no Sheaf).

Oh well
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Same.

Can understand why views differ on KP. I generally saw more positives than negatives with his place in the squad but as many have said, consistency was the main issue. Let’s see what happens through the rest of the day………
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #334
Alkhen said:
£750k seems cheap as chips but if he wants 25k p/w then I guess there is a very small market.
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From our POV, £750k is a good value for player who’s in the final year of his contract and a high earner.

I’ll frame it this way, would people be happy if we paid 750k for a Championship AM with the following stats:



Turns 28 in Nov and is on a wage that is higher than you’d expect for a player who is not first choice.

It’s all well and good being a top player ‘on your day’, the problem being is when those days are few in number. Those goal contribution stats do not lie and as other have said, last season was his first playing 2,000 minutes (22 games equivalent) in a season.

It’s nothing personal, there are just plenty of players out there who are better than Kasey Palmer.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #335
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s all well and good being a top player ‘on your day’, the problem being is when those days are few in number. Those goal contribution stats do not lie and as other have said, last season was his first playing 2,000 minutes (22 games equivalent) in a season.
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That's fair, but he has the most goal contributions so far this season and so if he does go it's essential we replace him otherwise it's a backwards step.
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #336
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Indeed. Palmer is more the sort of player that shines when the team are in control and he takes the piss out of the opposition, But he's not the type of player that will get a team having a bad game out of the doldrums.
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That's why we have a subs bench.

Horses for courses as they say.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #337
PVA said:
That's fair, but he has the most goal contributions so far this season and so if he does go it's essential we replace him otherwise it's a backwards step.
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In the league he has one goal contribution - a goal.

He has 12 contributions in the league since he’s been here.

If we want to look at all competitions Tavares last season had a goal contribution every other game.

Many stats don’t even include the FL Cup when looking at goals and assists
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #338
PVA said:
That's fair, but he has the most goal contributions so far this season and so if he does go it's essential we replace him otherwise it's a backwards step.
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This isn’t a jab at Palmer, just because he’s started the season well, doesn’t mean that’ll continue. Look at last season when Godden scored 6 goals in August-September, it looked like peak Godden was back… Only to score 3 goals from then. 1 league goal and 2 in the FA Cup against Oxford when the game was at 4-2.

He’s in his contract year so it wouldn’t surprise me if he had a good season this year because it’ll probably be his last ‘big contract’.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #339
fernandopartridge said:
He's barely done it
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yeah only several times a match

Peoples hatred of him goes way too far.
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #340
Mucca Mad Boys said:
£750k is a good value for player who’s in the final year of his contract and a high earner.

I’ll frame it this way, would people be happy if we paid 750k for a Championship AM with the following stats:

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Turns 28 in Nov and is on a wage that is higher than you’d expect for a player who is not first choice.

It’s all well and good being a top player ‘on your day’, the problem being is when those days are few in number. Those goal contribution stats do not lie and as other have said, last season was his first playing 2,000 minutes (22 games equivalent) in a season.

It’s nothing personal, there are just plenty of players out there who are better than Kasey Palmer.
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Slightly misleading due to the fact that in previous seasons he's had players like Hamer and O'hare in the midfield ahead of him, who were more attacking midfielders.

How many of those appearances were starts for example?

This season he's been the main creative midfielder and already has good returns, all be it from a small number of games.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #341
No big loss imo, he’s been vastly underwhelming for the majority of his time here.

Can’t see us letting him go without someone coming in.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #342
fatso said:
Slightly misleading due to the fact that in previous seasons he's had players like Hamer and O'hare in the midfield ahead of him, who were more attacking midfielders.

How many of those appearances were starts for example?

This season he's been the main creative midfielder and already has good returns, all be it from a small number of games.
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He’s had 1 goal contribution in recognised tournaments where stats are measured
 

fatso

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #343
Grendel said:
He’s had 1 goal contribution in recognised tournaments where stats are measured
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So second top scorer then, and above Simms and BTA in the scoring table.
 

Diogenes

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #344
Schrodingers Palmer...

He is garbage and won't be missed, but at the same time it's crucial to replace him...
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #345
I like Kasey.

Comes across as a really nice guy, principled and passion for his team.

He's definitely talented but a quite inconsistent in the same way Dabo was.

In ideal world, I'd like him to stay for his talent, the different option he provides and his passion.

As though with most things in life you can't have everything and have to make choices.

If he goes, best of luck to him . Definitely needs a warm reception when he plays against us.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #346
fatso said:
So second top scorer then, and above Simms and BTA in the scoring table.
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So what. As I said Tavares had 5 contributions last season in 10 appearances
 

skybluecam

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #347
fatso said:
So second top scorer then, and above Simms and BTA in the scoring table.
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We’re 3 games in to the season ffs. We’ve had 2 full seasons to judge him on prior to this and he’s come up short.

Regardless of his stats, the fact he didn’t even manage to play half of our minutes in either should be setting off alarm bells.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #348
Given he's likely one of the club's higher earners, his contribution hasn't really been great. It's good business that we've managed to move him on and for a fee.

Some great moments but far too often gets more wrong than right and actually becomes detrimental to the team as a whole the longer he stays on the pitch.
 
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jordan210

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #349
Dint Bristol fans warn us about palmers inconstancy
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 30, 2024
  • #350
jordan210 said:
Dint Bristol fans worn us about palmers inconstancy
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Not sure but they definitely did warn us
 
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