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Westendlad

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  • May 20, 2019
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Just read (bbc website) that a Birmingham head teacher has been threatened for allowing LGBT equality lessons at her school....
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 20, 2019
  • #2
Westendlad said:
Just read (bbc website) that a Birmingham head teacher has been threatened for allowing LGBT equality lessons at her school....
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By who?
 

Westendlad

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  • May 20, 2019
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skybluetony176 said:
By who?
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Sorry. Muslim parents.
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • May 20, 2019
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It’s a disgrace she’s having to face what’s she’s facing. She should be highly commended for what she is doing. What’s the issue?
 

Westendlad

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  • May 20, 2019
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CJ_covblaze said:
It’s a disgrace she’s having to face what’s she’s facing. She should be highly commended for what she is doing. What’s the issue?
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The issue is a percentage of muslims take their stupid god book to seriously......
 
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tommydazzle

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  • May 20, 2019
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Impressed with MP Jess Phillips' response to one of the agitators, telling him he didn't get to choose which equality issue he could reject/support. I expect a lot of the chattering classes are turning themselves inside out on this one.

Also the irony of the Muslim guy saying he was worried about his children being indoctrinated with a false morality.
 
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Westendlad

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  • May 20, 2019
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tommydazzle said:
Impressed with MP Jess Phillip's response to one of the agitators, telling him he didn't get to choose which equality issue he could reject/support. I expect a lot of the chattering classes are turning themselves inside out on this one.

Also the irony of the Muslim guy saying he was worried about his children being indoctrinated with a false morality.
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I know i was surprised and impressed too.......As the thread title reads is all i'll say.....
 

tommydazzle

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  • May 20, 2019
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Birmingham, Alabama, Birmingham, West Midlands.
Different cities same primitive crap.
 
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Westendlad

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  • May 20, 2019
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On a side note ( copied someone else saying that) i see how Farage milkshake attacker got nicked but Tommy's attackers didn't........This country eh..
 

mark82

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  • May 20, 2019
  • #10
Westendlad said:
The issue is a percentage of muslims take their stupid god book to seriously......
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And Christians too. All religions do the same thing, let's not pretend it's just a Muslim thing.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 20, 2019
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mark82 said:
And Christians too. All religions do the same thing, let's not pretend it's just a Muslim thing.
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Mmmmmmm interesting opinion. Those protesting have hand over their ears and refuse to open their eyes to realise what’s being delivered. Immoral to teach that we all matter and all have a right to live without prejudice. Ffs
 

Astute

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  • May 21, 2019
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I am stuck in the middle on this.

It would be good if all parents taught their children on the subject when their children are ready. But many won't. But I don't think it should be down to teachers. My children have been brought up knowing people who are gay. They know it is normal. We even have a gay couple as neighbours. But my little girl was left worried after the lessons. She was left thinking that she wouldn't be able to have children herself because she might be gay. Is it right to put your children through that sort of thing at such an early age?

Childhood is short. It should be fun. They have enough to be worried about as they get older. Yes they need to know. But does this need to happen at such an early age?
 
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tommydazzle

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  • May 21, 2019
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mark82 said:
And Christians too. All religions do the same thing, let's not pretend it's just a Muslim thing.
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That's why I mentioned Alabama.

Blessed be the fruit.
 

tommydazzle

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  • May 21, 2019
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Astute said:
I am stuck in the middle on this.

It would be good if all parents taught their children on the subject when their children are ready. But many won't. But I don't think it should be down to teachers. My children have been brought up knowing people who are gay. They know it is normal. We even have a gay couple as neighbours. But my little girl was left worried after the lessons. She was left thinking that she wouldn't be able to have children herself because she might be gay. Is it right to put your children through that sort of thing at such an early age?

Childhood is short. It should be fun. They have enough to be worried about as they get older. Yes they need to know. But does this need to happen at such an early age?
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Know what you mean but when I listened to what was actually being taught - It was simply about appreciation of difference and that everyone matters.
 

Astute

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  • May 21, 2019
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tommydazzle said:
Know what you mean but when I listened to what was actually being taught - It was simply about appreciation of difference and that everyone matters.
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That is why I said I am stuck in the middle. It isn't what is being said although we can't guarantee that it is always put forward in the same way. It is the age group of the children. All children are different. One shoe doesn't fit all.

And how about religious beliefs? I am not religious. But that doesn't mean that I shouldn't consider those who are. Can you imagine religious parents and having a child of 7 or 8 coming home thinking they could be gay?

My wife always wanted a child of hers to be gay and the more camp the better. But she didn't want an 8 year old coming home that was suddenly questioning herself because of what a teacher had said.
 

SBAndy

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  • May 21, 2019
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Astute said:
That is why I said I am stuck in the middle. It isn't what is being said although we can't guarantee that it is always put forward in the same way. It is the age group of the children. All children are different. One shoe doesn't fit all.

And how about religious beliefs? I am not religious. But that doesn't mean that I shouldn't consider those who are. Can you imagine religious parents and having a child of 7 or 8 coming home thinking they could be gay?

My wife always wanted a child of hers to be gay and the more camp the better. But she didn't want an 8 year old coming home that was suddenly questioning herself because of what a teacher had said.
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Why would you want your child to be gay? Seems a bit odd. Nowt wrong with them being gay but seemingly actively wishing they were is a bit weird to me.
 

Nick

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  • May 21, 2019
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SBAndy said:
Why would you want your child to be gay? Seems a bit odd. Nowt wrong with them being gay but seemingly actively wishing they were is a bit weird to me.
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There was a lad in my daughter's old class, he would go in from about 3 or 4 years old with nail varnish on and would go to parties in princess dresses. He had absolutely no idea about it but the mum would push it as much as she could. Poor kid is probably messed up by now with what's being forced onto him.
 
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Astute

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  • May 21, 2019
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SBAndy said:
Why would you want your child to be gay? Seems a bit odd. Nowt wrong with them being gay but seemingly actively wishing they were is a bit weird to me.
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My wife is a woman. They are strange creatures :wideyed:

It was partly so she would always have someone to go clubbing with in gay nightclubs. Can't fault her there. One of my all time favourite night clubs was Rockshots in Newcastle. It wasn't a night out. It was party time. Everyone being who they are and not pretending to be who they are not. We also have several kids and grandkids so no problem there.

But to me it is simple. As long as they are happy I am happy.
 

Astute

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  • May 21, 2019
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Nick said:
There was a lad in my daughter's old class, he would go in from about 3 or 4 years old with nail varnish on and would go to parties in princess dresses. He had absolutely no idea about it but the mum would push it as much as she could. Poor kid is probably messed up by now with what's being forced onto him.
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And I don't agree with the latest craze of having gender neutral children. Let them be who they want to be but don't push them in any sort of direction. A boy is a boy and a girl is a girl. All my boys have played with girls things and my girls have played with boys things. The one not to mess with out of all of them is the eldest daughter. Let them make their own choices.
 
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Nick

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  • May 21, 2019
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Astute said:
And I don't agree with the latest craze of having gender neutral children. Let them be who they want to be but don't push them in any sort of direction. A boy is a boy and a girl is a girl. All my boys have played with girls things and my girls have played with boys things. The one not to mess with out of all of them is the eldest daughter. Let them make their own choices.
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That's fine and understandable. Don't get the forcing it on them though.
 
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duffer

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  • May 21, 2019
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mark82 said:
And Christians too. All religions do the same thing, let's not pretend it's just a Muslim thing.
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Hmm. I'm not sure that 'all religions' isn't rather a sweeping statement here. The issue with abortion seems to be a generally right-wing, authoritarian, position, the left has traditionally been behind the fight for women's rights, including the right to control their own bodies.

Similarly in Northern Ireland with the DUP restricting abortion and same-sex marriage. So much for their absolute dogma that NI should never be treated differently to the rest of the UK, eh.

Anyway, I look forward to the day when Yaxley-Lennon, stands up for LGBT and women's rights on their own merits, rather than only showing interest when it's seen as a problem with Islam...
 

Otis

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  • May 21, 2019
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Astute said:
My wife is a woman. They are strange creatures :wideyed:

It was partly so she would always have someone to go clubbing with in gay nightclubs. Can't fault her there. One of my all time favourite night clubs was Rockshots in Newcastle. It wasn't a night out. It was party time. Everyone being who they are and not pretending to be who they are not. We also have several kids and grandkids so no problem there.

But to me it is simple. As long as they are happy I am happy.
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I think it is a culture thing as much as a religion thing to.

My missus has said if our daughter ever came out as being gay she would disown her.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 21, 2019
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mark82 said:
And Christians too. All religions do the same thing, let's not pretend it's just a Muslim thing.
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Exactly. The LGBT community in Northern Ireland doesn’t have the same rights as the LGBT community in the rest of the U.K. or Ireland. Same with abortion laws. The true meaning of one rule for one and one rule for another, nothing to do with Islam either. I also understand that there’s an ongoing police investigation into the threats so not sure how one rule for one applies anyway in this case.
 

hill83

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  • May 21, 2019
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Otis said:
I think it is a culture thing as much as a religion thing to.

My missus has said if our daughter ever came out as being gay she would disown her.
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I genuinely couldn’t be with someone like that.
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2019
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Otis said:
I think it is a culture thing as much as a religion thing to.

My missus has said if our daughter ever came out as being gay she would disown her.
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Yet I know a few Russians - one from Voldograd actually and they are a fairly liberal bunch
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 21, 2019
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Grendel said:
Yet I know a few Russians - one from Voldograd actually and they are a fairly liberal bunch
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I think you just happen to know a minority. Watch Reggie Yates “Extreme Russia” truly shocking.
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2019
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skybluetony176 said:
I think you just happen to know a minority. Watch Reggie Yates “Extreme Russia” truly shocking.
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I have been a few times as well and I find actually there are far more cultural similarities with them than most European countries

I saw the documentary but that’s no different than someone spending a few weeks with Tommy Robinson and his followers and portraying them as normal examples of uk society

They are very loyal and did for a while believe the Russian line on the Salisbury incident (and as they pointed out so did Mr Corbyn) but in the end had to admit it was they that done it
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 21, 2019
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Grendel said:
I have been a few times as well and I find actually there are far more cultural similarities with them than most European countries

I saw the documentary but that’s no different than someone spending a few weeks with Tommy Robinson and his followers and portraying them as normal examples of uk society

They are very loyal and did for a while believe the Russian line on the Salisbury incident (and as they pointed out so did Mr Corbyn) but in the end had to admit it was they that done it
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I wouldn’t be so sure. Anybody on that program that was LGBT were saying the abuse was pretty standard across Russia. I doubt you would interview many Muslims in this country who would claim that every interaction that they’d had with white people or just non Muslims was like having an interaction Stephen and his cronies. That’s the difference.
 

Otis

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  • May 21, 2019
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skybluetony176 said:
I wouldn’t be so sure. Anybody on that program that was LGBT were saying the abuse was pretty standard across Russia. I doubt you would interview many Muslims in this country who would claim that every interaction that they’d had with white people or just non Muslims was like having an interaction Stephen and his cronies. That’s the difference.
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Yep, seen other stuff on treatment of the LGBT community in Russia and some of it is quite shocking.
 

Otis

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  • May 21, 2019
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hill83 said:
I genuinely couldn’t be with someone like that.
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I will cross you off the list of potentials then, Hill.
 

Nick

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  • May 21, 2019
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Otis said:
I will cross you off the list of potentials then, Hill.
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Yeah you can stop hiding in the wardrobe now. It's off
 
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  • May 21, 2019
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Here's how to deal with such a thing.

 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 21, 2019
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Here's how to deal with such a thing.

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That’s the difference between left and right. It’s not a coincidence that the majority of comedians are left leaning. Seems to me the more right leaning you are the bigger your sense of humour transplant has to be and the angrier you have to be.
 

Otis

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  • May 21, 2019
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Nick said:
Yeah you can stop hiding in the wardrobe now. It's off
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If I had have been it would have been with a six pack and a congratulortry medal.
 
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skybluetony176 said:
That’s the difference between left and right. It’s not a coincidence that the majority of comedians are left leaning. Seems to me the more right leaning you are the bigger your sense of humour transplant has to be and the angrier you have to be.
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tbh I didn't see it as left or right.

Pretty sure he didn't get endless hours of publicity out of it too. Why on earth is Farage being allowed to take over the airwaves? Maybe the BBC is biased after all! All those righties infiltrating it.
 
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