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  • Thread starter better days
  • Start date Apr 28, 2020
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better days

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  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #1
Coronavirus and football: Fifa medical chair does not want restart this season
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #2
better days said:
Coronavirus and football: Fifa medical chair does not want restart this season
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I think what he’s saying in regard to playing again this season is correct, I also think that most
People (who aren’t Doctors) have been thinking along these lines for almost a month.
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #3
We're gonna get fucked over aren't we?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #4
Very decent enough comment there about spitting.

I still don't see that ending this season means that we will lose out. I still expect common sense to prevail.
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #5
What’s the difference between starting the current season again June/July and starting a new one August/September ?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #6
Magwitch said:
What’s the difference between starting the current season again June/July and starting a new one August/September ?
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A lot of things can change for the better in 3 months.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #7
Someone on the Coronavirus thread has just posted that Germany are seeing an increase In cases
since relaxing lockdown measures and apparently reconsidering their plans to relax further.
Not good ‘but not surprising.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #8
Brylowes said:
Someone on the Coronavirus thread has just posted that Germany are seeing an increase In cases
since relaxing lockdown measures and apparently reconsidering their plans to relax further.
Not good ‘but not surprising.
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It seems like they’ve planned on opening too much at once.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #9
Skybluefaz said:
We're gonna get fucked over aren't we?
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Yep
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #10
Shame he has no say in the matter though.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 28, 2020
  • #11
Magwitch said:
What’s the difference between starting the current season again June/July and starting a new one August/September ?
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Completely agree. Everything that is being raised as an issue with restarting now could continue being an issue when next season is due to start. Pointless rushing to cancel this season not knowing what is happening weeks or month down the line.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #12
Brylowes said:
Someone on the Coronavirus thread has just posted that Germany are seeing an increase In cases
since relaxing lockdown measures and apparently reconsidering their plans to relax further.
Not good ‘but not surprising.
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And they can because they are testing on a vast scale. Hopefully we’ll catch up soon
 

cc84cov

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  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #13
Skybluefaz said:
We're gonna get fucked over aren't we?
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SISU will batter FIFA in court
 

SkyblueBri

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #14
I've said this before; Use the Chilian alternative so no one can sue, just get more relegation places next season. So could end season now. I do not understand why this is'nt being considered.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #15
SkyblueBri said:
I've said this before; Use the Chilian alternative so no one can sue, just get more relegation places next season. So could end season now. I do not understand why this is'nt being considered.
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But if the leagues now have more teams the TV/sponsorship money will be split more ways, taking down each clubs earnings from it for a year and if they've budgeted on that amount and have players on multi-year contracts based on that they could pursue it if they haven't agreed to it. Especially so in the PL where the money is huge. And I don't think they'd want to go upsetting the likes of Man C, Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs etc.
 

SkyblueBri

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  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #16
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But if the leagues now have more teams the TV/sponsorship money will be split more ways, taking down each clubs earnings from it for a year and if they've budgeted on that amount and have players on multi-year contracts based on that they could pursue it if they haven't agreed to it. Especially so in the PL where the money is huge. And I don't think they'd want to go upsetting the likes of Man C, Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs etc.
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Agreed, but when you look at other alternatives you seem on have either;

1. Void season would lead to most court cases, just look at Holland.
2. PPG relegated clubs up in arms especially if current form was improving.
3. Play behind closed doors, be alternative if it could be done, but how to stol thousands of fans congregating outside of stadiums?
 
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Malaka

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  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #17
It seems pretty clear to me, that there has never been any intention to finish the season. The Premier League and the EFL just want to be able to say that we did everything possible to complete the season, so as to avoid the shit storm from disgruntled fans. Remember some teams are gonna benefit from not going down
 

AStonesThrow

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #18
SkyblueBri said:
Agreed, but when you look at other alternatives you seem on have either;

1. Void season would lead to most court cases, just look at Holland.
2. PPG relegated clubs up in arms especially if current form was improving.
3. Play behind closed doors, be alternative if it could be done, but how to stol thousands of fans congregating outside of stadiums?
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I certainly don’t envy the decision makers involved, whichever route they choose to take, they can’t win. I guess on their side aim for damage limitation on the wider scale. Bad enough what happened to Bury this season (albeit different circumstances), would be a tragedy if this pandemic created more cases, especially when it comes to lower end/reputation teams that have battled their way into the football league without mass investment. I worry for teams like Forest Green for example. If Colchester have had to let top players go, I can only see it happening to the majority of teams in Leagues 1&2 at this rate.

One things for sure, should this be the case and once this is all over with, it’ll be an interesting transfer window on many fronts
 
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better days

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  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #19
Sky Blue Pete said:
And they can because they are testing on a vast scale. Hopefully we’ll catch up soon
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From the news this morning it looks like we are ramping things up massively
We've had the lab capacity for huge numbers of tests for a while but the logistics of doing them and getting them to the labs has taken a while to sort out
Part of the problem was that we bought 3.5 million tests from China early on which couldn't be used as they were unreliable
Anyone working for companies buying things from China regularly knows that you can't leave anything on trust with that country, you always have to use independent quality controllers to monitor production and inspect and test goods before they leave the factory
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #20
better days said:
From the news this morning it looks like we are ramping things up massively
We've had the lab capacity for huge numbers of tests for a while but the logistics of doing them and getting them to the labs has taken a while to sort out
Part of the problem was that we bought 3.5 million tests from China early on which couldn't be used as they were unreliable
Anyone working for companies buying things from China regularly knows that you can't leave anything on trust with that country, you always have to use independent quality controllers to monitor production and inspect and test goods before they leave the factory
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Which makes you wonder why we and others bother getting things from there? Cheap consumer tat is fine but if you want something precise and accurate steer well clear.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #21
SkyblueBri said:
I've said this before; Use the Chilian alternative so no one can sue, just get more relegation places next season. So could end season now. I do not understand why this is'nt being considered.
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I imagine it is being considered, like everything else. However, the likes of Bolton and Southend deserve to go down and should do so.The only 'fair' scenario is for the remaining games to be played, whenever that might be and whereby issues of promotion and relegation are decided on the pitch and not off it.
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #22
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Which makes you wonder why we and others bother getting things from there? Cheap consumer tat is fine but if you want something precise and accurate steer well clear.
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Big businesses and western governments are to blame
Reducing costs was put ahead of all other considerations & we are now paying the price
Nothing will be the same in the future.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #23
better days said:
Big businesses and western governments are to blame
Reducing costs was put ahead of all other considerations & we are now paying the price
Nothing will be the same in the future.
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You think they'd know the rules on business balance and false economies. Or at least adages like "you get what you pay for" "pay peanuts, get monkeys", "buy cheaply, buy twice" and "buy cheaply, pay dearly"

But that oh so important short term gain for shareholder benefit means common sense goes out the window.
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #24
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Which makes you wonder why we and others bother getting things from there? Cheap consumer tat is fine but if you want something precise and accurate steer well clear.
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Chinese 'quality' has improved massively in the last couple of decades - that's why that country is by far the biggest manufacturing base on the planet.
The world relies on China for its affordable components. I'm sure you're aware of all this, SBD.
No one can match them for 'value for money' - but of course there will always be a 'cost'.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #25
SkyblueBri said:
I've said this before; Use the Chilian alternative so no one can sue, just get more relegation places next season. So could end season now. I do not understand why this is'nt being considered.
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Should Southend and Bolton get a share of Lincoln or Bristol City's TV money?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #26
SkyblueBri said:
Agreed, but when you look at other alternatives you seem on have either;

1. Void season would lead to most court cases, just look at Holland.
2. PPG relegated clubs up in arms especially if current form was improving.
3. Play behind closed doors, be alternative if it could be done, but how to stol thousands of fans congregating outside of stadiums?
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The Bundesliga said if fans start going outside stadiums the game will be called off
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #27
SkyblueBri said:
I've said this before; Use the Chilian alternative so no one can sue, just get more relegation places next season. So could end season now. I do not understand why this is'nt being considered.
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Would that mean 3 teams would go up and the Championship has 6 relegation places? It’s not a bad idea but who finishes third? Oxford are currently there but Wycombe have a game in hand
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #28
oscillatewildly said:
Chinese 'quality' has improved massively in the last couple of decades - that's why that country is by far the biggest manufacturing base on the planet.
The world relies on China for its affordable components. I'm sure you're aware of all this, SBD.
No one can match them for 'value for money' - but of course there will always be a 'cost'.
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Didn't they send a rover to the far side of the moon ?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #29
oscillatewildly said:
Chinese 'quality' has improved massively in the last couple of decades - that's why that country is by far the biggest manufacturing base on the planet.
The world relies on China for its affordable components. I'm sure you're aware of all this, SBD.
No one can match them for 'value for money' - but of course there will always be a 'cost'.
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The 'quality' has improved, but it's still far from great. People get it from there predominantly because it's cheap, not for the quality.

Many reasons for that - cheap labour, not giving a fuck about IPR, state aid in some cases.
 
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better days

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  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #30
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
The 'quality' has improved, but it's still far from great. People get it from there predominantly because it's cheap, not for the quality.

Many reasons for that - cheap labour, not giving a fuck about IPR, state aid in some cases.
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And if you get into a dispute with a Chinese company and visit to try to resolve it you'll have a good chance of being arrested
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2020
  • #31
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
The 'quality' has improved, but it's still far from great. People get it from there predominantly because it's cheap, not for the quality.

Many reasons for that - cheap labour, not giving a fuck about IPR, state aid in some cases.
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On the other hand iPhones, for example, are good quality.

Friend of mine set up a company 20 years ago, had an idea at uni and designed a product. They get it made in China. The Coventry CBI gave them an award and pronounced it “the future of British manufacturing”. Always made me smile that statement. Yet here we are.
 
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